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The point is I´m literally Consciousness creating a human hand. If Consciousness wanted absolutely could turn it into a claw. Is just doesn´t want. And the ego self (thoughts) have no power or control on what Consciousness creates. So things go exactly as Real Me wants. There is NO SUCH THING as Consciousness + Human Self. There is Consciousness + ( Human body + thoughts. ) This Two DO NOT form a self. What you guys miss is that even while having a body the consciousness is not limited at all at any moment. Get this straight: When I take a piss, in that moment Consciousness is also absolutely unlimited.

I think i´ve tried one time but i was too high to do it for much time lol. But i can understand you had good experiences with it, since LSD activates the energy body in a big way so it can be a way to 'shorten the gap' at the beggining. Because the most challenging stuff is that. When one starts one thinks is doing a merely physical exercise and not much happens. Is only when one starts to be more receptive to certain subtler parts of your body that things get interesting. To build yourself to that level of perception and activation like the one of a psychedelic that it takes a lot of practice, although in the end is how you are supposed to do it because is more balanced and complete. Yes, in a way Yoga was already 'there' before any human 'invented it' or transmit it. I like to say Yoga was never invented, but rather discovered. The symetry is already there from the beggining of creation. That´s why in theory if you take a psychedelic and get somewhat conscious in a certain way, you can start doing an asana that exists but that you never saw or read anywhere before. I´ll check it out thanks.

@James123 Then why you identify yourself with anything? Such as that Being is Boring? Keep yourself free, do not entangle yourself with any conclusion or identification. You lose power and freedom.

I already done it. Last time I plugged 55mg. Almost (physically) died. I know what the state of consciousness of 5-MeO Is. Not saying is not useful, i can definetely vote for the antidepressing and a sense of spaceness and freedom the following days after a dose too. Im just warning, thinking 5-MeO is the 'truth' (or by any means any substance) or that you can get some kind of ultimate conclusion from it, is a deep mistake. One that you will pay years of lose time and not real growth if you fall into it. If you don´t want to listen to me, fine. Just see how deep are those conclusions and mental ideas taking you. Are they making your life better or increasing your perception in any way? Are you more joyful? Life is more profound? Whatever. You guys keep doing 'your thing'. You know... The wheel of samsara is big. Some people´s cycles are about failed marriages, others are about doing psychedelics and thinking they got it all. When in reality they are doing circles as anyone else. 5-MeO can create openings at at some point they can literally save your life. Don´t think though, is not another thing within the cycle. You said yourself: "I'm dreaming constantly without stopping." The point of Spirituality is to stop the cycle. True You is outside the Circle. But since you are too identified with things, now you want to keep dreaming more dreams. What to do. What can I say? If you like dreaming so much i won´t stop you. You right.

I have gone back to a more consistent intake of daily coffee due to trying to being more productive at work. I noticed when I wake up something 'feels off in my body. Is a kinda of physical uneasiness unexplainable , which I absolutely don´t experience the previous day at the afternoon or dinner. Also I sleep well so that's not the issue. The thing is... I find a very intense drive towards the first thing doing in the morning is making my coffee... And when I take a few sips...voilà, magically I feel 'FINE' or 'RIGHT'. So yeah, this is physical dependence, is not a 'coincidence' that the first thing you want to do in the morning is a coffee. That´s the drive of the body to ease and eliminate the withdrawal. Know that while you are judging other people that might be hooked in other things, you are hooked to coffee if you are taking it daily. And let me tell you, after having quit certain drugs that people think they are 'so difficult to quit', I find caffeine extremely sneaky and hard to quit.

What we are?

oh my oh my....what am I reading. A lot of psychedelics, but little taste of the Ultimate. Because if not you wouldn´t be writing those words.... Being You. Which is better than being not-you (identification). There is just empty blissful freedom. Which blows out the water anything that you have tasted in life. All that you know about life including psychedelics is identification, not true You. 'Being is boring' is also a thought/identification @TheGod @James123 If you get a taste of the Ultimate Being you are, you wouldn´t be writing this words.

@TheGod That's the purpose of the spiritual path. Liberation, Mukti. To truly Awaken from the dream. As much as I recognise the power of 5-MeO-DMT, that is STILL dreaming/mind. 5-MeO-DMT happens within the dream. Is just another appearance. True You is not even there. There is a beyond where you truly go above ANY identification. Do not identify with anything, not even God, Dreaming, Immortality, or anything that happens on psychedelics. Nothing!!

Yes, I think that is the key. Acting a desire but because you have a certain power-perception within you and it makes sense to do it. Not desiring from a sense of lack, like a beggar, weak, ...etc I made that mistake in the past and I won´t do it again. Reality punishes you when you act like that. I have verified it too many times. Who said that there is stuff outside consciousness?

Said the Dreamer to the Creator. Not sure if you are really conscious of Who you are. The Creator is never stucked in his Creation(the "Dream" as you say), It can Only think it is. You ought to tell me that I am stucked or limited when i myself was the one Who created limits and the rules of this Dream? Hahaha. The body i am using might be limited, but i myself certainly ain't.

A goat wont be willing to explore consciousness simply because is not evolved to even think of an Ice Cream or getting a job at McDonald's, let alone thinking about the higuest possibilties. Leo and you have a simple defect in your thinking. And is that you think Consciousness is limited or compressed into anything. Is not. Consciousness is Absolutely unbounded and unlimited at all times, including Goats. But Goats do not have an evolved system to be receptive to any kind of Consciousness activation more than the basic one to support a body and mind. Oh Leo, Leo... You dissappoint me brother. You have to open a bit of possibility. If not you Will think you have gotten to the end and you havent scratched the 5% of what is possible in a human body. Which would be a pity. Because the possibility is there but you are too convinced that humans are about limitation, when is actually the opposite. If you have a goat body as @Yali says, It wouldnt be a problem for you to be satisfied with the limitations of It. But having a human body and not exploring the possibilities is...well, like not reving up the Ferrari more than 2500rpm.

Im not a human. Consciousness is creating a human body. I am consciousness and all the power of consciousness is available for that one which is willing. (precisely because you are not a human organism or biological thing). I don´t know what you guys are smoking but surely some of you guys have some weird as fuck beliefs about how Consciousness works.

overdosing on kratom is terrible, of course it can´t kill you like other opiates so that's it great. But the nausea and drowsiness that produces is hell.

broooo is this a joke? Consciousness creates genetics, consciousness can not be bound by genetics! @Leo Gura PD: By the way.... I guess you could say the predisposition of a human to explore Consciousness could be genetic (in the sense, a human might be born with very little 'seeking' orientation to Awakening, therefore it won´t explore anything related to consciousness). But if the intention is there, obviously all the Consciousness is available to that human!

@cetus Ok give me a Koan lets see if this breaks for good

Well, how i see it is for Enlightment basically you have to be focused on your Real Self and stablish yourself in that. From that place, things can appear or not. But IMO one can not take detours. For example, yesterday i went out for a walk and i was completely focused on myself, when i walked by through a group of people, a group of guys that were making sounds and behaving a little bit antisocial, i noticed the usual conditioned fear on my body arise. What i would have done in the past is fall on to that fear and i walk strangely when i would pass near them. Some kind of anxiety recorded in my psyche. However, I was completely into myself, into the boundless Being. I was including everything around me. So basically what it happened was the contrary. They stopped me to say me something, and i stopped and we ended up talking for 10 minutes and it turns out it was a great conversation and great guys. Why i say this..., well... when you are stablished in a new way of being there are things that 'naturally' just happen for your benefit. Because you are in that open vibration. So people usually want to join you. Pros are things will naturally come to you, cons are you are not going to take any detours to abandon yourself. IMO Is not rejecting desire, is focusing on your self and stablishing yourself in that. Chances are if you do not live on a cave, things will come to you from time to time. But that shouldnt be a focus. Everything that you think you need is something you pick up from culture. This being by itself is capable of being complete withouth anything from society or culture, that definetely includes sex. Sex is something with 1 years old you didn´t care at all. Why you pick up that identification/bondage again? It will only detour you. But if a woman appears on the journey, the fun will be even better. Not at all. Enlightment or not being able to find your self as a thing, is the same state as MDMA state of consciousness, your Self is boundless Being, you don´t see where it begins and where it ends. But also no hallucination, thought or insights, just completely clean mind. You can the next time pick up the laptop and get to work and get on a Zoom call with 10 team members of your company and the CEO and completely function as a 'self'. Of course there are levels. Im not saying that is the ultimate realization. Im just saying, the more profound you go on to this, the best it feels, the more magical, connected, profound Life feels. It does not feel wacky, weird, solipsistic, scary, or whatever else. When it feels like that is because you are thinking a lot, basically.

I agree, but i would add is important to have clarity in the whole aspect of reality. Not because that will change who you are, what you are is what you are and that can never ever be changed. But because it might establish clarity. Because sure, i can see I am not this or that, i can see in this experience that is happening right now, if i really pay attention, there seems to be an intelligence, Being, or whatever, that seems to be identifying with things. And if i pay really really attention, this Being is not anywhere, it seems it is holding the empty space where objects and phenomena is appearing. Including the body, the laptop im writing this phrases, etc... and it seems i can not really pinpoing what, where or if this being is even alive. Is just here, but no idea what is it. It seems it is in the world, but not of the world. I don´t understand nothing about this mysterios being. I try to remain conscious of it. Do not identify myself with anything, remain observant, free. But there is no clarity yet what is it. What is it doing here, Most important, why there seems to be a world happening!!?? Of course this are questions of the mind, but im just saying, im having difficulty staying on my being, because i dont know what is my being. Actually everyday i know less, im reaching a point of total confusion, is crazy. Sorry for the long post lol lol blessings my friend

Good question. I think one has to surrender knowing with the mind, so other perception of perceiving reality more clear can open up.

I still don´t know what reality is That haven´t changed

Im sure 99% of buddhists as well as typical non dual meditators havent gone to the depths of what is possible. It requires a super intense energy of consciousness. Which typical meditation traditions do not touch. They are interested in just no self/separation from Thoughts and thats It. And with that, It might provide some peacefulness but that doesn't let you see even 0.1% of the cake. In my experience Infinity goes beyond human experience and It can be verified such thing. I have become conscious my body is literally Infinity, not as a thought, but literally i know that i can access any memory/information in the dream because i have become as a body truly boundless consciousness. It seems Is an Infinite Mind and for the sake of the Game It limits it into human bodies, but if you generate enough willingness, you can trascend the limit, It opens Up just a bit, in order to not lose your Mind. (Talking from my experience, dont know about You). Of course i wont transform into a kangaroo if not i wont be a human anymore, but i mean as Consciousness the memory/information is accesible. (With memory i mean literally the "physical world" which really is not physical of course, just my own Infinite body) Dont know what you mean with grasping Infinity with a thought, maybe we are talking about different things.

Gol de señor. But yeah its a great conversation, Leo did such great questions and Ralston communicates brilliantly

I get you. When you truly grasp It is not an idea or a thought, is truly grasping it. It can not be explained

I really discourage people to do kriya or any yoga on psychedelics, it will hurt the practice big time. That´s crazy man. Have you ever tried 3-meo-pcp

is good news, humans will do more humane complex jobs, and machines more mechanic jobs

The horizontal line is the singular one consciousness all creation comes from. The bodies that come out of it are memory bags of consciousness that form singular bodies and singular minds, they are completely united with the singular consciousness, but since they are creating a certain form they are bound to a certain physical limitation/boundary. The process of consciousness to slowly dissolve this memory, to a point where it dissolves completely with the horizontal infinite line again. When all beings (or better said, all individual memory bags of consciousness) merge back to the infinite line, the process of this creation is finished, no more form. Warning, once you merge with the infinite truly there´s no more recreation for you of any bag of memory. When all bags are dissolved (you are a bag of memory within infinite, not a separate being) we say the creation is finished. Everyone got a piece of the puzzle, you can play some time with this piece, but you will have end up giving it back, so infinity has all of their pieces reunited again. We all walking ourselves to the Infinite Reunion, (or the Infinite Dissolution, however is more funny to you) Aren´t you excited.