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@Schizophonia Listen to the guru homie. Is normal you are a fan of carnivore diet because you are very invested in the macho - testosterone vibe, that´s alright. But don´t project as that being the best diet for a human.

Ok Mr dating God... whatever you say.

I definetely not. I feel 8/9 are bratty and bitchy as hell, at least thats how it is in my country

I am aware of that, definetely. Yes, that´s probably is. It depends, by attraction you mean sexual-sensual-instant desire attraction ? If that is the case (thats how I understand the word) Of course because 'attraction' is purely that, raw physical attributes. Men use physical appearance as the measurement for that. To fall in love/infatuate myself with a woman, or want to have a long relationship, then other reasons take importance if not more, but 'attraction' comes 100% only from physical appearance for me. First women I got obsessed/fall in love she was a 6.5, so of course looks are not everything, but that´s because the relationship had gone much deeper than sex. In fact with this girl I did not think of sex with her until 6-7months into the relationship. Yeap, totally. Yeah, although better said that done because looks impact very deep in the psyche and mechanism of the mind. The whole reason why want to date women and not men is because of Looks lmao.

That doesn´t make sense... in carnivore diet the animals that you eat they actually had to eat from the plants/soil before. Veg diet is basically eating from the source directly, instead of eating from the source second-hand.

LOL. I have over 1000 hours of soul-breaking yoga Sadhana to back It Up. When you do that come tell me Im just following a guru. How much hours of Sadhana have you done? Now that i think about Im probably more close to 2000 hours more than 1000. You think in those 1000-2000 hours im not going to extract anything from my own experience? Haha. Yoga is a science. Thats why everything i have gone through matches the teachings of the "guru". Is simply a tool, is not a subjetive experience. A guru is not a special person, there are thousands of Gurus out there. No guru Will tell you having experiences with psychedelics is the point of Spirituality. In fact i find shocking we have to be having this discussion. Is not sadhguru, look ANY GURU, and see if what they teach has anything to do with the nonsensical narcissistic delusionary ramblings Leo is convinced and most of you guys follow behind.

Good parroting of Leo Gura videos.

Your state of Being Now. Or if you are working towards bulding something that just won't fall the Next day (or Next week). What is the point of going Up if you down the Next day? Rollercoaster of ups and downs got too tiring and miserable for me.

I don´t intent to...if your experience helps you is great. It just didn´t worked for me. Nothing because if Awakening was just an experience/memory means nothing.

@Breakingthewall thats why I feel proper spirituality is very practical, it should shift your life experience, align you, if not what is the point?? I don't feel those are 'my values', I feel thats why people get into it. Nobody gets into it as a medal or trophy, the human feels in someway constricted or compressed and wants to liberate itself, align itself, is a natural inevitable seeking. But he says no, I don't care about that, my point is arriving to deep states of consciousness. Ok, cool, but why call that awakening or spirituality, is lying to yourself.

@Jehovah increases that seems a lot of beliefs 'You can become so Awake'. (So you are a 'thing' that 'becomes'?) 'You know' (So you are the mind-psychological process, because thats then thing that knows and accumulates knowledge) 'You are creating reality' (So there are Two? You and the Reality that is being created)

Of course I respect your exploration of diverse or deep states of consciousness. But I wonder how is those explorations are different from the thousands trip reports on Erowid/Bluelight/reddit of psychonauts? Actualized forum is not the only place where there are people that have loved to explore the dimensions this psychedelic tools/substances provide. And as you have said, you had this states of consciousness before taking anything. In the same way There are also lots of people that never used psychedelics and also have explored as you. This people do not neccesarily are at state of evolution deeper than any other normal human. Does not neccesarily mean those people have gone beyond the usual identification, does not mean they've gone beyond their psychological drama...etc. So I think I have a strong point in saying, if your exploration is different, in what way is it? But you say it has no concrete value for yourself as in improving your life experience nor for the society...then what is it? It seems like a Medal or Trophy. Not that is wrong to achieve Trophies or Medals, but not sure if that is the point. But if you have 'fun' I guess...I am no one to tell anyone what to do. Just that is very far from what Spirituality is. And since We are in the spirituality forum I felt I had to say it. I wouldn´t have replied to your post if you have posted it in psychedelics sub-forum or self actualization sub-forum. So is not like i have something 'against' people doing this things.

Let´s see what that "Awakening" means 2 weeks from now.

@BlueOak lets be honest... the problem is not bliss or not bliss, the problem is you can not maintain the bliss. If you are able to bliss yourself out where is the space for the negative emotions? Suffering emotions can only happen because you are not Blissed out. Additionally, when you are feeling Blissful you can step into any door in reality, you can experience almost anything because the fear of suffering is no longer there... when any wind from the outside can make you tremble, little exploration will happen. Overall the issue with spiritual work is not that it does not work, is that almost nobody seems to be able to maintain it (myself include it). Additionally it seems to maintain it a certain surrender of certain things have to happen, and nobody is willing to do because there is fear and attachment...probably for most of us we have to keep seeking material stuff to go full circle and finally go back to trascendence for good. At least thats how i see it in my case

The issue is that you guys think i deny your experiences or something. I dont. Is been more than a year now since I took a psychedelic and if i take one tomorroow im sure i would have a super profound experience and similar to what the OP says. The problem is that all of that IS NOT THE GOAL!!! Experiences or realising something is not the goal!!! All of that is FUCKING MIND.

What does serve you this radical awakenings? In what way It improves your Life and/or of others? What do you think a voluntary in an hospital facility Will work best? The one Who IS able to feel within better or the one that has more friction/stress within but has accesed tremendous states of consciousness in the past? Who Will work in a farm more? The one Who does not feels little physical pain or the one that gets tired faster but has accessed incredible states of consciousness? As you see, both for society and for selfish material gains, in both cases the actual state of Being rules how you do in the world, Vs having had tremendous profound states of consciousness. I see no problem in your endeveour or Leo's. Is just that is a trick to call that Spirituality. Spirituality was always about trascending or at least mastering the unique tools the human has: an unique potent Mind and a complex body and energy system that makes both suffering and joy possible, that makes both the worst wars and the most beatiful art posible. In summary, Spirituality was always about Evolution. Not experiences.

Im just trying to help people come out of this mental ramblings about God or imagination. I get my attitude was rude

@Keryo Koffa we need some memes for the Davido VS Ishanga beef!

Is normal you perceive it like that, that´s because you have not tasted the state of Being I have tasted. @Someone here When I say dissappearing I mean the limited qualities of you (mind, thought, emotion, physicality, etc). What remains is You. But that You is not consciousness nor mind nor dreaming nor manifestation nor anything you can imagine. The process is not one of reducing Life, is about eliminating all limited things you picked up. Whatever is You, it should remain even when we remove everything from you right? If we have to remove the complete dream from you, so be it, right? Whatever is temporary, we don´t care. We care only about your ultimate being. If turns out you picked up everything, we will surrender everything because anyway everything you picked it up as an identity. We want to remove the identities and see what´s left... The point is You, not the identities...so don´t be scared about all identities going away...

Reality is emptiness. Objects are emptiness, body is emptiness. A thought is Empty. Past, present, future, they are emptiness. Dimensions, God, Psychedelic trips are part of mind, dream, imagination, and ultimately relative. Emptiness is absolute Truth. When the Intelligence realizes this there is no reason to Keep Dreaming anymore.

@Davino You forgot saying you have reached higher states of consciousness...with drugs. Everybody can go to the peak taking something. I´ve said it dozens of times...actualized forum nor Leo didn´t discovered psychedelics 😂 although some people here think they had. They been around for thousands of years, if taking a psychedelic and accesing certain state of being is what spirituality is about, ashrams, monasteries, meditation tools, etc...wouldn´t exist. Humanity would have realized was popping something, smoking something, etc... is the goal. But it doesn´t take a genius to realize thats not where well being and evolution of a human is. Although some people here seem to be taking a lot time to realize that. Not long ago Leo still thought taking psychedelics over and over would amount to something and take you somewhere.

are you muslim?

If Weed would be a legit tool for spirituality people would not spend in monasterys or ahrams all their life... nor people would spend 20-30 years doing detailed complex yoga sadhana, or whatever the spirituality practice is Weed is been present in human history for thousands of years...is not something new. If it was about smoking it and realizing some God and imagination stuff, i think humanity would have already stopped building monasteries and ashrams and stop doing spiritual practices that takes decade to master...

very trustable, you smoked a plant and you think you understand Reality. Lol. This forum kills me.

Because i´ve tasted how it feels to dissappear and is more blissful than all mdma and psychedelic and sex and cocaine and party and having a child, etc together. Once you drive a Lamborguini Aventador how can you settle for a BMW? Please tell me. BMW is fun and great, but once you taste something tremendously higuer then, well, the seeking can not stop. Watch the video and everytime you hear that V12 screaming remember when I talk about Liberation i don´t talk about denying or decreasing Life...I´m actually talking about Raising it to the higuest possibility of existence...