Javfly33

Wisest post in the whole thread

I call enlightment as the death of the ego in everyday life. A clear understanding, a certain consciousness levels where the ego is seeing as what it is, not as just your true identity/truth. Of course realization comes with certain profound level understanding of reality. But I think we can say that "enlightment" is not the definition of complete understanding of reality, but rather a certain trascendence from it. I think psychedelics are great and withouth them I wouldn´t be where I am . I just think not everyone is ready to just take the psychedelic path and start tripping regularly non-stop until reaching enlightment, it just too hardcore, too intense. Ego backlash is a real thing, with psychedelics you can traumatize yourself if you aren´t careful. The ego usually asks for a break if there´s been much transformation/mindfuck. And that is totally normal and Ok. For most people there´s a lot of integraiton and shadow work/purification while doing the psychedelic path. This means sometimes stopping to catch a breath, start a sober practice, integrate, discover...etc. I think you get my point.

As far as I´m concerned the general definition of enlightment is when you are "done". No more practices needed. Until you reach that you need to work your way up. Yeah Depending on how big the realization was your baseline of consciousness will raise , but this will happen either with psychedelics with any other practice, but again one realization usually is not enough. And all of this information is of course just guessing, this work is so deeply misterious, that you need to verify for yourself what will at the end will work for you. You can take Leo´s advice that has done +50 trips of 5-Meo? Maybe that will be enough maybe not, he even says just doing psychedelics won´t enlighten you, but again the definition of enlightment which he has vs what you have will differ enourmously.

Enlightment doesn´t take usually just one mistical experience. Much Probably you won´t get enlightened by shaktipat or a psychedelic. That´s why sober, boring methods exist. Because is not only about the experience but also about aligning yourself with truth and of course raise your state of consciousness for hours, daily, not just one time.

I call it true freedom. It´s great you are starting to become more consciouss , good for you, why limit yourself to a simple thought, right? We all have done it, quite nonsense that was.

I almost sure that phrase is more related to Spiritual Experiences. Meaning, what what crazyness the mystic might experience he is able to let go of try to contextualize in his mind and surrender/flow with the new perspective, meanwhile the psychotic can´t handle the minduck, rejects it and it ends up going crazy because of it. But I might be wrong and it could be actually more related to what you say

Yes!!!!! I FUCKING KNEW IT.

About the first or the second?

Yeap MDMA can definetely be addictive. Probably not scientific, but there is plenty of anecdotical evidence in the internet of MDMA having the possibility of being addictive. 5-MeO i doubt anyone has become addicted to it.

The thing that gives me hope is the fact that depending on what stage you are in you will understand and contextualize in a way or other. For example now it really seems but is depressing but maybe it´s just my proyection. I just found his recent messages kind of "dooming", but I´m sure part of that perception is that I am projecting my kind of "doom" on to his teaching that I have lately about spirituality and truth. However I won´t argue that the difference from when I first learn about enlightment, to know, things have gotten bitter. I guess I lack a real awakening. But I am already scared where this is headed. I am already accepted the lose of physical ground, a self...etc what else will I have to surrender? Hehe...yeah but that Love you talk about is not the love this devil wants.

With sober practices you are not going to live in non-dual you'll have glimpses. I say this because, there's more benefits to conscioussnes practices than just non-dual states. For example if you do Yoga rigorously for enough time, even if it doesn't even get you to LSD conscioussnes levels, even if it gets you on a 1/20 level of conscioussnes, your life will be dramatically transformed, because you will live in a state more consciouss of yourself , your habits, your conditionings, and therefore be able to trascend them. I have been doing Kundalini Yoga for almost 3 hours a day these last week and I am sure to say the overall awareness that provides it's far superior to people doing microdoses of LSD. And there is people who use LSD microdosing to reduce their depression and anxiety. Let me tell you Pranayama rigourously with some Yoga will get you further. And it's free! But of course 3 hours are not easy joke. You have to be really serious. Also you have to be very disciplined to maintain this. Let's not even talk how well-balanced your life must be to be able to do 3 hours of intense Kundalini daily. I am being able to do it because I am staying at home since the virus. This change in lifestyle will be align you more to be able to your "avatar" will be more aligned with Truth. I think this is clearly the benefits of the classical practices as meditation or yoga, you can have an Awakening doing those but most of the people will need chemical substances to reach there. However the classical practices provides an excellent ground. In fact it wouldn't make much sense if yoga or meditation would put your in conscioussness levels of those of psychedelics. We basically would stop almost surviving!

Wow this thread is depressing as fuuuck

Nature, running, running in nature. Not necessary in that order. Arquitecture. And also to Have a warm cup of coffee in London town in a rainy day

Why it is that sometimes that when I start doing serious spiritual work it feels that I am slowly trascending the bullshit of my identity, becoming super conscious detaching from my thoughts and realizing I AM NOT my identity and I can be anything, but other times actually I am getting towards the healing and facing all of the wounds of my personhood? They seems opposites. It just happened today. I broke in tears today after a couple of weeks of feeling like I was "untouchable", I was doing kundalini yoga 3 hours a day last week, very intense breathing exercises that I thought I have found gold and going to become free of my identity, but today actually it went 180º and I had an intense realization of an emotional wound I havent´healed. I started crying and accepting myself and this happened I think because the ego wasn´t present so emotional release was allowed. But still I have to accept like 98% of my demons. ----- Do I basically have to stop behaving as ego (judging myself), and start being more God (loving myself) to heal completely?

That obviously I need to heal, but it seems it's never ending. When I enter high states of awareness it seems all of this problems are just thoughts, so when "emotional releases" like this happens even though they feel it should happen, other part of me is saying, maybe this is just more BS

I think it´s important to diferenciate between ego, and personality. You are referring to personality, but to who this personality occurs? To the one who thinks is a separate, different, unique self, to the "ego". A "mind" can act different. A "body" can move different. But an ego? Ego is the "lie" itself. Ego is the misperception itself. The misperception is the same in all beings! For example, imagine that this being started confusing the red with the green colour. Whether you are black or white, you live in a america or australia, or you are a men or a woman, the "confusion" between red and green colour is literally the same. I am saying the confusion, the miscerpetion that we call "ego", is the same. Is not personal, how can a mere confusion could be personal?

There is just one "ego", really The lower self "you" is nothing more than the ego. For example, what is difference between my body and your body? The idea that you consider my body is a kind of part of "me", and your body is a kind of "you". But this is absolutely not true! The ego is not in the body! In the same sense, does a rock in Australia have a different "soul" than a rock in California? Why do you assume some any different to human bodies then?

You already dead! No need to harm anything. Observation and a quiet mind is the skill you´ll need to master .

In Yoga a lot of Kriyas and Pranayamas have the mere single goal of traning your concentration . The why is your hability to raise your state of consciousness depends much on your concentration. If the mind is not concentrated, then consciousness can´t neither be "concentrated" (you get me?) Another term for concentration is "mind focused on only thing". That´s why many spiritual practices also they are simply just "focus on this single point for the most amount time of stuff". The mind slow downs, internal dialogue slows down, so energy instead of being diverted in 1000 things, it start to get focused on One thing...so an opportunity is created for "things to happen".

Oh man I had some really special moments while running through nature too, I thought I was the only one haha. I gotta go back to doing it

Well, yeah, technically depending on what we understand by "living his life". I meant that in the sense of living as a human identity withouth wanting to go any further.

Depending on his development (and age) Some people probably will be better off living life than pursuing awakening tbh.

Now that´s what I call an excellent set and setting I´happy for you! You are me. Good that you remembered who you are

I suspect you would have to use it in combination with a MAOI, to make the duration long enough. But please do your research, I´m in no way a chemist.

No idea.