Javfly33

the only problem is here is that you think that there is a tree somewhere outside your current experience. The thinking and the "somewhere outside my current experience" is only possible with the paradigm of the physical outside reality. Notice that you literally have to create a paradigm or set of beliefs (such a thing as a physical underying reality) for that phrase to make sense. On the other hand, reality is already evident withouth beliefs. You see a tree = there´s a tree. You don´t see a tree = there´s not a tree. It´s so simple it´s outrigheous. On the other hand for a physical objective reality to exist, to have to belief in it. This work is not about what belief or paradigm might be true. It´s about WHAT is TRUE.

Kundalini has been the most powerful for me. The exercises are easy to find on the web too

Nice story you tell yourself about that there´s an "objective tree somewhere". Sorry, who/what is supporting the objectivity of that tree? An imaginary intelligence somewhere outside your current direct experience?

@4201 It´s not belief. Its common sense. If you are not consciouss of something, you are not consciouss. Case closed. In your experience there´s only conciousness. Consciousness of sounds, images, thoughts, sensations...etc. You are basically saying something like "I dont have a million dollars in my bank account". "But maybe I do". "How could I know if I don´t". "Sure I can look at my bank account and see that I have 0$. But who knows? Maybe I have a million". It just doesn´t make sense. If there´s no million dollars in your bank account why you still belief "maybe there is"? In the same sense, if there´s no tree in your current direct experience, why you still say "but maybe there is a tree!". Wut? Materialim is basically magical thinking. Which is not that surprising that most humans belief in since look how little kids belief in santa claus just because they are given solid beliefs and conditioning from their culture.

@4201 Suffering also deeply comes from the belief that there´s such a thing as a physical reality. Because if there´s a physical reality that means there´s something outside of you. So you are vulnerable of this "thing outside yourself" and you are incomplete. Fortunately all is God. No such a thing as a "outside world". Forget about the self. How suffering would be possible if you are deeply consciouss everything is You and your imagination?

Its simple. Its a fucking dream of your mind. Your mind is dreaming your body, other bodies and objects. Only your mind exists. So you are your mind. Not your brain-mind. God_mind. You are God. There aren´t any objects or even people. They are all consciousness morfing into a form. Ta-da!

Imagine that one day you stop caring about your body and your life and give the same importance to your body than to other bodies and inert objects. Imagine how inmortal would you be.

Good explanation. I must confess I agree with Leo in this.

One day you will stop to play games and you will wake up to the fact you are God and that's it. No more stories. This thread is just another story.

It feels like inmortality. Unfortunately most human beings, even ones who have had awakenings, never truly lose attachment to life. It takes a lot of selfeshness to let go of the illusion.

They say because God must live one version of Infinity one at a time. So there you are.

My trip sitter had this going on during my first N-N-DMT trip . Great choice

@commie Not sure if i am following you here

Please explain the part "it was for love". To realize Love you mean?

There is no robot.

@Someone here Really? Isn´t a POV a direct experience of a perspective (point of view)? I am not talking about POV as a thought or concept. I am literally talking about POV as an experience. What is the only way that Barack Obama life can exist?

Can Barack´s Obama POV exist if it´s not being experienced? You´ll say... But what you are missing is that is not neccesary to prove it ---- > Notice that POV needs a First direct experience because that´s what a Pov Is...a point of view... So let´s be clear ----> A POV is a direct experience (A point of View). Is not a thought. So how could you prove that Barack Obama´s POV exists? That you actually experience it.

You are still not getting it where I am pointing to. Contemplate what existence is. If you keep assuming a hot girl is the same as a thought about a hot girl, then bro, I can´t help you with that. I guess one day you´ll get it.

The funny thing is, for anything to exist you must be there to be aware of it. So I am all things andd angles, always. Lol. When it hit me it was soooo obvious. And from being a little kid i remember sitting in my room during the night looking at furniture and not being able to make sense how the furniture could exist when I would be sleeping. In fact I was right Kids are so intelligent we get stupid as we get older dont you think

@Dodo Instead of contemplating about objects outside/inside awaraness, I suggest you to contemplate about people (Points of Views like the one you have). Do the same inquiry, Being aware of a Point of View VS Not being aware of a Point of View. Following your logic, you are right that the fact that you are not experiencing the Point of View of Barack Obama, that doesn´t mean that Barack Obama Point of View doesn´t exist. So nobody is actually denying your logic. But your logic is using the word "existence" as it would be the simplest word in the world. Existence is a tricky word. Is the same 'existence' you experiencing Barack Obama Point of View vs you thinking that Barack Obama Point of View exists? Are both scenarios the same, really? Is the same to think/imagine you fuck a hot girl vs actually fucking her?

I just hope he´s not right.

Guilt and shame was created by the devil.

@An young being How do you know it?

Infinity

No, I highly doubt they suffer because there´s not an ego formed.