Javfly33

Do you want your life to end? Because that is what is required to end the identification with the body. What you are missing is that sages that lost the identification with the body almost went dead due to hunger and forgetting to care his body.

That logic is not good.

Now you are just trolling buddy

What about meditation? What happens there? You "think" meditation?

Do you need thoughts to see? Do you need thoughts to hear a song? Of course the afterwards narrative of "I heard a song" is thought. Actually see if you are still "there" when a song is playing and thoughts don't arise. So far nobody has died listening to a song ? Is it weird that I was thinking about Nahm after finishing reading the OP and there you go in the first post appears ?

No, doesn't matter. But if you reach a profound awakening via sober methods, it will definitely be more permanent afterwards. Because to get there sober would have meant that you have switched your life into a powerful constant meditation ,surrender, ...etc. What's best is to use a mixture of the two.

Yeah, I´ll meditate some more this week, too monkey mind tho lately

So excuse me, you are going to live the rest of your life withouth not really knowing if the persons you talk to are literally you or you have even being them in actuality? Like, is that something you just don´t care? I know abiding as consciousness in effortless peace and all of that is great. But, you don´t dictate that that is the end. And as ForestLuv would say, that is a context which is useful. Yet it can be limiting to explore other contexts... You don´t say what is waking up. There are SEVERAL states of awakeness. Your buddhist reductionist narratives are getting tired honestly. I know you say it from own all your heart and is appreciate it brother, but I really think you are wrong and God can become much much more conscious of itself apart from realizing itself as conciousness.

So when you talk to other people you are conscious you are talking to yourself? @Nahm

Not sure how "infinite intelligence" fits with Infinity itself. A) Does infinity mean you live every possible scenario withouth exception (pure infintiy)? Or ... B) Infinity means you live every possible scenario BUT with certain conditions (maximizing love as Leo said. Ironically this is a condition which limits Infinity, isn´t it?), For example, why not God lives not only all lives, but all possible permutations of the life of my avatar. That is what i would call absolute infinity.

Awakening to you being Consciouness doesn´t explain EVERYTHING!!! THere are degrees of understanding. Realizing yourself as the consciousness behind the thoughts is not the end... That still doesn´t explain what is really the present moment, how is being created, how other beings interact with you...etc I mean, come on guys! You gotta be honest with this.

Hehe...then you are conscious that you are totally Alone right now, right?

Your explanation seems interesting. I´m going to slowly contemplate it and try to understand it Can´t access the link of the book thought

@PopoyeSailor Am I imagining you right now in another InfinityUniverseGod? How the fuck can we be separate if there is ONLY ONE God???

I get that meditation is a great great tool to align the truth of your true self with daily life, making more fluid, less neurotic, basically more effortless and fun. but... are you guys for real in the sense that personally there´s no way I can get enlightened with meditation. And this kind of questions derive because people are trying to sort things out. Like, you guys must be damn genetic genious because yeah meditation is great in silencing the mind and it has a lot of benefits but it seriously can´t get me anywhere close to enlightment.

Baseline Consciousness is a thought. There's no such thing.

You bet he is ?

Stop right there. There is no deep sleep.

What? @Nahm sorry can't unquote on phone

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@Nahm Thanks i guess for reminding me that I was deeply wrong ? On 6/12/2020 at 2:07 PM, Javfly33 said: "ITS THE END OF ALL THE STORIES OF THE MIND!!!"

@Ry4n the quote your quoting from Leo refers not to the ego ( the idea) dying, but rather you as God/Consciousness becoming totally formless for ever

"Frank Yang says..."

That we don't need much to be happy.

Hell yeah