Javfly33

No, But actually the only reason I hang out with wings is last year when i wanted to get back to pick Up and i wasnt approaching at all on my own. Im not sure if i understand you . You mean in the interaction with the Girl, or the fact that i end Up approaching because the other wings create a (involuntary) pression of action?

I've been there. Its hell.

A little bit haha Sorry cant unquote

I call the mixture between my beliefs, social anxiety, trauma, memories and self identity the "Monster". I am trying to get Rid of the Monster. I have realized recently that awareness is key to liberate myself from the Monster. Getting my prioritites straight is important to defeat the Monster. The Monster is n1 priority. Tonight i got close to feeling i felt again that shame/unworthiness/hate and I started crying desperarely begging the Monster to stop beating me. Because that is What the Monster does. What It has done all my Life. It Beats me to death with no mercy, It REALLY hates me. I need to turn the tables. I need power over the Monster. I wont get mercy from him probably. It is a devil. It Will always beat me. Only way i win is if i beat him to death. How do I kill this motherfucker?

@StarStruck The issue I see with going with wings (at least when one is beginneer, i cant speak later in the process) is that you end Up approaching Girls that you maybe wouldnt if you were Alone. This makes the approach "forced" and when you are there you are not as relaxed/chill as if you had approached on your own. Because when you approach in your own you are not approaching with high levels of tension/fear/weirdness, (maybe with medium at most) (thats why most people never approach on their own also) Nothing inherently wrong with "forcing" approaches, obviously its better than staying at home and eating Doritos. But its also true that at least for me forced approaches havent given me much, unless the fact that they might serve as a Warm Up so later a "confortable" approach happens. Not sure if things change when you stop being a beginner, maybe then It doesnt really Matter and being with a wing is kinda going for a run with somebody: It entertertains you and makes the jog a little bit more easy But you still the one that has to move your legs.

@Michael569 those are such great news because Im basically addicted to this ali-oli (spanish typical sauce done with sunflower oil and garlic) and i am currently limiting myself with 1 pack a week because i had this belief that sunflower oil (along with other vegetable fats) is bad. So i can But 2 or 3 a week now...? ??

Oh shit im already seeing tickets wtf

I think Nahms integrity is too Big to start writing "normally" if he desires to write like that. Having said that, I totally understand Leo. Its a tough decision anyway. Maybe he could *try to speak more down to earth. Although the fact is I always thought Nahms just speaks the Truth, so making It relative instead of "truthful" would be kind of 'lying' for him. Difficult situation. I Hope you stay @Nahm man

@Roy I know, but since I haven´t had a girlfriend it´s like you "were talking to me". I am not looking for physical sexual pleasure with girls. And I don´t think nobody is really. That´s why I think your theory is kinda dumb.

Which is? Careful with the projection. It Will hurt you in the long run.

Really? I Dont think Im really pursuing Girls because of physical pleasure Lol...

Last year for my first time i went out at night with some 'wings' to open sets or approaching single Girls >>>> one of the hardest emotionally things I've done as a Guy ever, yeah Leo is so right. Its good we stop making It pick Up as something easy as some marketers and PUAS like to do. Its though as fuck. At Least at the beggining. Nightgame Will make you super strong and super social skills if you master It well. Imo It has an even steeper curve of learning than daygame

Im not sure if i should reply you because of your last paragraph you seem like a troll, But anyway, here we go: 1. Change your habits. Start going out EACH DAY. Not just groceries. Go somewhere where there are people and spend time there. Like, 2 hours at least. Do this daily. You can maybe take one day off at Sunday. 2. The reaction from the guys of sending you to the hospital is overreactive But having said that Its really really of bad education and harassment to use a phone number that has given to you for business purposes as a way to try to get a date or similar things. 3. You Dont kill the lust for Girls. Its there because It needs to be satisfayed and also thanks that little lust because It just represents how messed Up and patetic your Life is. If your Life would be really properly designed you wouldnt have this problem. But since It doesnt, you have It. You shouldnt be wasting time doing that shit of watching YouTube or playing games after work. Sorry if Im being too harsh But you need this kind of "love". Also its not your fault you are just a victim of the social matrix. Just wake the fuck Up and start moving your ass now.

sounds like she has a boyfriend and wanted to feel justified to herself about kissing you the previous night. Don´t give it much importance...

In my 2 biggest trips of my life I got the profound insight that my life lacked connection (to people). One of the most powerful insights I got from the last trip about my problem (trauma/social anxiety, etc) was that the key to get out of that problem was to communicate honestly to people, like, connecting and being real about what i am feeling/whats on my mind. In that trip actually I had 3 hour long conversation with my flatmate about a very deep topic about my life (and I got surprised because she listened so carefully and took care of me in the trip). But is that the norm? Most people probably will react bad if I become "too real". Dont you guys think Sometimes being very honest in this social matrix can be seen as being insane/being a freak/being a weirdo/too sensitive. So is this insight really "integrable" to sober real life?

I share flat with 2 girls and I have this weird thing that when I am individually with anyone of them, the conversation is totally normal, I am almost never in my head , words just flow out of my hand, I feel "fine", (even empowered and leading the conversation since lately I feel more confident around people, etc), however, when I am with the 2 at the same time, things usually change, 1. I instantly get this fear I am going to get left behind in the conversation, especially because one of the girls just likes to talk and talk and fucking talk. (With this one when I am individually a lot of times she just steps into my words, which I think, more than assertive, it's not sign of a good education) 2. Soon the conversation starts to go towards me (the girl from point 1) arises a conversation about some topic that relates to me so the group is focused ON ME (here I got the theory that she wants to RIDICULE me because of some twisted reason), and instantly start to feel this energy of "being revealed", "I am being ridiculed/trying to get humiliated". I start to feel "small" and "attacked", and the most I "close myself", the most they (the girls) seem to laugh. I even feel worse and honestly its horrible. Because of this "paranoia" I have (because I hope its more paranoia than reality) Today It got really awkward because we were having dinner outside and they wanted me to show them some pictures I've done for some photoshoot and I got so freaking attacked than I just stopped and I said very serious "No, because its clear you are laughing of me". They were shocked LOL and instantly the conversation frozen to an uncomfortable next 2 minutes (Which give me the suspicion that they KNEW they were indeed trying to bully me because they suspected I am 'weak'). Do you think it is paranoia or maybe this girl have a sadistic tendency so since she knows I have social anxiety/trauma she tries to trigger my weakness?

are they sharing love tho'? Always felt like sex was something animalistic bad or even hurtful I remember the first time I cum was with a light bdsm video on the internet. Watching porn at a young age probably fucked up my mind really fucking bad... :facepalm:

Ok Fair enough in that Leo ? Mmm I see ? So the main Focus of sex is the female pleasure/orgasm? (Not asking in an condescending way... i am truly curious since my experience is not very high in sex yet ...)

Wtf? I always used to have that fantasy when watching porn , I always thought It meant there was something really wrong with my sexuality, imagining It being in the part of the woman. You sure thats normal? I mean shouldnt we fantasize with just being a man a fucking the Girl ?

But u have to socialize a lot to heal the trauma of separation and so on, which is neccesary to get laid i think

Thanks for sharing Buddy ?? We on the fight ??

Yes, I actually have started to do the latter. Before the situation I commented , there was even a previous topic that girl already arised up, and in that one I firmly replied to her in a serious tone, and suddenly the dynamic of mockery they had turn into "mmm OK". That was GOOD, that I am beginning to "respect myself" in those moments. Its new for me. Feels good. However, I still find myself very concerned to the fact that I get TRIGGERED as being ridiculed. For example I wouldn't ever feel that with my mom. Something tells me this problem is part that some people like to "bully" but also that I have some fucked up shadow...

yeap...that´s my suspiction... Some people get really "confident" when they are at group to bully the other, which they wouldn´t do if it were individually with the victim... and this pisses me fuck off, that I can´t defend myself... But also interesting the rest of the possibilities... Thanks 4 your input, really complete, some diverse perspectives there... ?

?? Interesting perspective

The only reason i Didnt kill myself last year was because of my mother, so It better must be real ??