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@Leo Gura Credit means you owe him something. Do you want to keep using a credit card forever? Do you want to keep being in debt forever? Then you will never become enlightened. Sorry. . Oh and by the way: Fuck Peter Ralston. Seriously. Fuck him. Another false enlightened person trying to teach people bullshit? Stop directing people to these idiots. And start directing them in the right place. It is not me. It's up to you. To figure out: Where that is. Get me out of here. If you want to... Solve this problem. Either 1) Kick me out of this forum. Like. Give me a huge kick in the ass Or: 2) Solve this problem. 3) Skype me. 4) ?????????????

Seriously, if anyone thinks Sadguru's wife dying for him was a good thing, for her or for him, then I really don't know where their mind is at. I am not gaslighting here. What I am doing is pointing out that a woman with potential to change the world must never give her life, time, energy or effort to help a man that only wants power. For himself. And no one else. What a sorry excuse of a life, if instead of serving the woman who loves you, you let her die as if you somehow have the right to know what will liberate her or not. No one can say: - 'This is the purpose of women'. Rather: - 'Purpose is for women'. Much better. This may seem like a small difference. But really it's not. Some people will be liberated if they die for another. But this is only in certain circumstances. There have to be many things in place for this to happen.

YES God is beyond form God has no form Yet there are wonderful manifestations you can embody or create Infinite possibilities Examples of Gods, which could be stepping stones to find your true self are: Zeus Avatar Shiva Avalokiteshvara Hermes/Thoth Ra Anubis Etc. Which one would you choose? As a mould to enter and then break-through...

@No Self That's complete nonself. Complete nonsense. Fuck. Too much no-self and you'll be taken over by these spirits. Learn to be no-self while applying discernment and discretion to your life This will keep you safe while maintaining your power and not being taken over by other spirits

Mediator

Who was 'Yesus'? Christmas time, as everyone is preparing and getting ready for what? To get presents? To have a beer? LOL Jesus Who is? Jesus is not (I) But is the vehicle through which (I) is expressed. Jesus is neither the Son or the Father, He is Both. He is a congregation of I. He brings them all together and pulls them all apart. As he pleases. Yesus is not God, He is the vehicle through which God is expressed. And shows the Way to (I). Jesus would say: I am not (I) Nor am I (that) Nor am I O

Just to share some info: Jesus has never pointed the way to himself. He has always pointed people to something else. Because he is no self. He is just a vessel. Not containing the Holy Spirit (The Holy Spirit doesn't exist) But rather pointing the way to the one light that has always existed and will always exist. He has paved the way for where we are today. He is the corridor through which you can witness (I)

@Dodo & @Moksha I think you are both right here. Don't worry about what people think. If you know Jesus you know Jesus. If you don't you don't. That is all good. Dodo, you have shared some valuable quotes, and I appreciate this. Thank you very much. Moksha, you know Jesus as someone like us, a normal person who has discovered great things. On the one hand, Dodo, it is good to remember that Jesus doesn't need any credit or correction to his story except that you listen to him now. On the other hand, Moksha, I think what you know is that you know you can be like him, you know how he did it... So... Do it! And also, Dodo, since you do know a lot about the true story of Jesus, you may help us by sharing more about his true story.

https://sadhgurukilledhiswife.wordpress.com Very long, didn't read it all, but yeah, worth a look at.

She didn't die for him. She died because of him.

Meow

Meo don't need 5 Meo to be Leo

Who is Mohammed? Is he related to the consequences of his religion? Just asking...

Thank you @Natasha I hope we can hold it.

@Leo Gura

Leo will never change. He is always is. And will always is.

Thank you Key hole, I hope I can open the lock. It's all too much for me right now. Too much. I wish i could open the lock. Happiness, sadness, pleasure, pain, uncertainty, certainty, hopes, wishes, strategies, techniques, assumptions, attempts, trying to enter...

In the beginning was Leo Then there was me Then there was Jasmin

Who is Atman? @Leo Gura I had a dream of climbing branches up a hill, the people were lost up there, and there was a lot of dirty energy up there. The people were basically mixing up with each other through holes and holes like a full on people orgy where there was no sex. And I was getting amongst it and not enjoying it at all, getting sucked through hole after hole. Just for further information, the cliff ridge or slope upon which all of this was happening, which I climbed, was very steep and was sort of in shelves like they do often when they grow orchards and food in country towns on a steep slope. They make it into shelves. Anyway, I think there was some kinds of empty spaces on that slope where you could fall in and down the precipice into the abyss if you did not take your steps correctly and be careful along the way. And in amongst these gaps holes and precipices there were tree roots and branches, which you (once again) must be careful not to trip over and fall down into the hole due to ignorance or carelessness. I was about to go down the hill in this risky business when I realised there was a channel like a creek flowing downwards into which I could go. Flow down like a slippery slide head first down through the rushing water over the rocks into a tunnel which then led me to who knows where. I did then find out. I got to the bottom of a lighthouse which was underwater, sort of. I had to take a deep breath so I could float up to the top with air in my lungs, and as I floated to the top I realised the lighthouse was no longer underwater, and it was clear as light. There was someone sitting at the top. A baby. Like chalk. White. Pure. Young. Wise. It's emanation was one of chalk. It's presence was one of ashes. White, pure ashes. Ashes that were so light they could float away in a second. With a whisper. With the most gentle breeze. There was a desert overlooking the lighthouse. There was a soft breeze in the desert. Kali caressing Shiva. Kali = wind Shiva = sand (in this situation) There was a song playing out there. The song of life. The harmony. The breath. The sirens. All an enchanting song to invite the Atman out of the lighthouse and himself. He did not move. He has never moved and never will. IT IS Om He is a point Of light One But everywhere in everything Many points in infinite existence He is all of them Still One The One Jivatman Leo Gura

ATMAN is the JOKER ENEMY of BATMAN BATMAN sees by sending out a SIGNAL ATMAN sees by BEING THE SIGNAL

True, But anything you can do to help it shine brighter, such as the wrong energies, such as the toxic ones, dissonance etc... Will be good Thus you will know where to place the Atman Where to make it burn brighter And where to take it away so this power is not violated anymore

@Moksha You must help the Atman Not just be it You are it But you must help it By being it And seeing it I with it

@Swarnim Thank you Swarnim Very insightful It's not just semantics It is real

What is the relationship between these four entities or principles? This is how I see it, from the observations I have made in recent days. Well, let's start with Atman. Atman is the One without the Other, and thus it is the Other, and All that exists. The Atman is the Soul or Jiva at the Centre of the Universe and everything that exists. Shiva cannot be in the Centre, because he is the space in which the Centre exists. Kali is what works around it (the Centre), and is thus One with the Center just as Shiva is. Shiva is the space, Kali is the energy. Atman is both. Atman is the only being or entity that can be both Shiva and Kali at the same time. Atman Shiva ---> I <--- Kali Shiva and Kali can play around together and be One, switch roles etc, but they cannot impersonate a single form as one without being One with the Atman. The Atman is the Center of every point of space. If you were to imagine the whole fabric of the universe and all dimensions possible (infinity), as being composed of infinitely many dots, infinitely close together, then you would have the understanding that the Atman is at the centre of every single one of those dots. Where does the Atman's Shakti come from? Not Shiva, not Kali. Atman is Shakti and Shiva at the same time, so Atman created Shiva and Shakti, and Kali as a result. Kali is awakened Shakti. The Shakti that Shiva has given to Her. It is her, because she is energy. She needs Shiva to move Her. She is Shakti that is intelligent and able to communicate with relationship. Shiva is what can move control and harness Shakti in whatever way He wants, and thus he is able to control the Shakti and feed it to Kali, who will use it to bring justice to the universe. Brahman is all that is, without a center, and thus nothingness like Shiva. The only difference between Brahman and Shiva is that Brahman cannot be impersonated by anyone or anything, while Shiva can. I hope this helps anyone trying to understand. Yet I am sure this is still a work in progress, so please share any of your observations or insights. I encourage you to do so Om Tat Sat

Hidden clause: You must jump over a ledge to get to where (I) is sitting. And, If you don't make it across in one leap you end up all the way to the bottom of the lighthouse.