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Enjoy the ride. I like gambling just gotta do it responsibly.

I feel like Leo's videos on sex addressed this perfectly. It was basically do whatever you can to have your dream sex life and offer it to your partner as well. Why do you care who has sex with who how many times? Discussing it won't help your own sex life. And if we're actually trying to dissect society I need a deep analysis by perplexity on claude on the effect of an individual woman's sex life on the stability of a society and obviously it will tell you it's basically irrelevant. Even as a trend I would like to see strong arguments for it. Just learn pickup, social circle game and social media if you're a man that wants tons of sex and you'll get it morally.

I just watched this video and realized I don't really know where I stand on evolution at the moment . Does non-dualism invalidate it or compliment it? I don't think life fundamentally comes from exploding particles that come out of nowhere as the big bang theory tells us but I mean the awakening of consciousness is basically that just in a more mental form than physical. And the classical religious theory basically is that God was an already fully evolved consciousness and made little physical consciousnesses called humans to worship him/to test them, that kind of makes sense to me but also not really. I guess where science and non-dualism intersect is that consciousness evolves over time and was not all knowing from the start? Thoughts?

What are you talking about? I don't think she's particularly perverse, perhaps you're mostly experiencing an ego backlash moment when you see someone live outside the confines of what's societally acceptable. I don't think it has anything to do with whats' objectively good or bad for her or the world.

Do we know for a fact that God is fully evolved? I would argue that's actually impossible otherwise there wouldn't be a point for reality to exist. In his reality explained videos god talks about humans like partitions of God that he uses to explore the finite as an infinite being. Exploration of the finite I would consider as evolution. What do you mean by not able to see it's own evolution? I think that's a lot of that we do reflect on our past and how we got there in all kinds of ways.

Can you explains literally what that means to you? It's a pretty huge topic even if you're a non-dualist. The boundary between the different selves still has huge plot holes in my current understanding even after doing this work for 10 years and starting to get my mind around solipsism.

Yeah honestly I think this whole section of the human lore is worth consideration and Leo should make a huge video on it if he has interest. Project Stargate involved a lot of metaphysical investigations like remote viewing and yeah I remember reading something about reincarnation in there. A lot of these accounts are starting to gain credibility and are publicly broadcasted on platforms like Shawn Ryan's My current understanding is that literally the CIA came to the conclusion that physical reality is a meme and we're consciousness and they gave up on the experiments. Perhaps that's not true at all though and hilariously enough they are doing their own radical experiments of consciousness. I don't know what to think about this so I generally don't think about it and worry about material concerns like making money and my dating life but it is a big plot hole.

Reading this post by brother @Leo Gura I somewhat agree but doesn't the overall sentiment fall into being an epistemic blunder? https://www.actualized.org/insights/the-corruption-of-success You talked about gurus blissing out in a cave as being delusional because they don't impact humanity. Isn't that what anybody that doesn't have success and more importantly than that pure power falling into that same trap? I would define power as having control and influence over reality and if you don't do that then aren't any theories of self-development just that; theories? What is true is truth and if you can't affect reality with your knowledge than it must be false by definition. Not saying by default powerful people are not corrupt but also hippies meditating and taking psychedelics thinking they're better than them are also corrupt. I think it needs to be fleshed out more. A great example is politicians. However corrupt they are they are honestly putting themselves on the line to rule and affect society. And they are at least somewhat selfless because of that. If ideas cannot affect society then they are by definition weak and lack power and I would argue are also bathed in falsehood since they cannot interact with reality and only live in the mind.

Yeah I think most people never reach their potential. For me it's hard to find a materialistic goal and stick to it. I like thinking more than doing. It's something I wanna figure out.

@Miguel1 I relate to how you feel a lot. I'm an INTP and I value knowledge and internal understanding most of all and now that I know most than most of the people I encounter I seem more disgusted at their low level of development rather than feeling blessed that I can share knowledge. I think it's still out of ego and feeling insecure and like you can't trust/feel safe around people of a lower development but I still need to unravel that. I also noticed recently I have a crippling need for control so I tend to rig situations in my favour and that's been causing me a lot of suffering I now realize.

That's a good point. I don't understand fundamentally your point though. You're saying everyone has the same impact or that everyone has an impact or something else? Or just that one human isn't more valuable than another type thing?

He does not have a huge impact on society. He keeps the toilets of one hotel in one city clean. And not by himself usually these housekeeping teams have 5-20 people so he can't do that limited job by himself. He has a certain quantifiable impact just like every other human being does. I don't understand your point, you're literally talking about being powerness to the changes in the universe. The universe is a certain way and changes daily. You can impact and affect that and people do so in different ways. That's what power is. @ryoko I don't understand your points, can you simplify it? You are indeed correct that money is generally the best form of quantification but is an incomplete one. Globalization is evening out economics accross the globe though so it's getting closer to it.

How do you quantify that? People have different impact. Ants have impact on the world just a ridiculously tiny one. Same as your person being at home. Perhaps selfless is not fully the right word but courageous certainly. It's easy to write poetic things on a forum or on social media but to take your ideas to the public and stand behind them in front of scrutiny and personal attack is a whole other thing. Even most people won't dare just post a video on their social media let alone run for office and try to change the world. Sure that's a nice theory but we all live in cities, countries and societies right? So we all matter sure existentially but a very limited amount of us actually have a significant impact on reality. I mean once again sure but the issue is in quantification. You can pretty simply measure the impact that reach that each individual human has on the greater whole and obviously some have lesser or bigger impact; for better or for worse. That's the quote that Leo had in one of his political videos" The danger of ignoring politics is you end up being governed by your lesser."

I run a few masterminds on politics and business and the topic of wokeism came up and then I took that opportunity to explain flaws of Stage green and how it has to evolve to Stage yellow to have a powerful impact on society. People seemed to have interest in it so I'm thinking about running a mastermind call around an hour on spiral dynamics. Gonna review a few of Leo's videos but I'm curious what you guys individually like best about the model and what's the most useful insights around it. I wanna make it as non boring and direct as possible so people are encouraged to research it more and understand it.

@NoSelfSelf I don't understand your question

When you bastardize someone's point, you dim the understanding. The tate brothers have a great value proposition. Fuck society, build power and wealth and do right by yourself. A mix of stage orange and red. It's an extremely attractive value proposition to most men that feel disenfranchized. The only greater value proposition really is that you should indeed indulge and fulfill your stage orange and red needs but remember that society is not your enemy. As a matter of fact it is your greatest ally. And you are a warrior build for greater understanding with limitless power and if you choose to do so you can not only become a powerful and well networked man but who's life purpose is also to help save, support and enlighten mankind. Turning your back on society for some pussy and a bit of money is a hollow proposition with this viewpoint because you can have so much more. Infinitely more as a matter of fact.

I would like to believe that through sufficient understanding and great communication skills, I would be able to give insights and value from the model to most people. That is the purpose of spiral wizardry right? What are your favorite parts from the model and how would you communicate them?

I would argue that being evil is not only harmful but also doesn't even do hedonism correctly as it's too short sighted and you'll be stopped from embrassing your passions soon enough. If you want to rape people why not wait 5-10 years for VR so you don't end up in jail? What's the fun in embezzling money; I don't think you've experienced spending money you haven't earned. Gets old quickly. The best feeling in life is conquering your goals and the world and you can do that perfectly ethically and also gain the love and admiration of your people. There is no value proposition to evil; just low consciousness and foolishness. i.e. being an unevolved monkey.

What is the utility of this comment? What do you hope that Leo or anybody else reading it gains from it? Your understanding of spiral dynamics seems rudimentary, have you watched the whole series? Stage green is fundamentally a terrible stage what brings confusing to the world but it is much advanced than the ones below it. The solution is not to somehow fall back unto Stage Orange, it's to integrate it through Stage yellow understanding. Are you sure about this take? I worry about this isolationism take. I think under the right epistemological principles exposure to corruption will only ultimately make your truth stronger. I used to be a huge Tate fan as I'm quite power hungry but when the stuff on how he abused the women came out I had no choice but to repudiate him and tell everyone that mentions him about how corrupt he is.

I would probably figure out a way out if it were me. Only if you have a significant amount of money saved up, 20-50k USD ideally. Then have some crypto so you have transact globally and lookup how to whitewash it so the government can't track you. Investigate which route is less risky bribing the government or the mafia and try it out. Definitely wait at least a couple months after inauguration though to see what effect Trump actually has on the war. Spend the next 2 months until then educating yourself on the things I talked about and gaining a deeper understanding of the system. Make friends with mafioso and government officials, take them out for drinks, etc whatever you gotta do network and gain crucial information. You can also take the safe route and just build an online business so you're basically transacting globally anyway and building your life purpose and wealth and in a few years when this is done you'll be in a good position anyway. Godspeed brother.

Educate yourself(20-50 hours of podcasts and read books) on crypto and then buy it. Stock market is predicted to stagnate over the next 10 years but Crypto will go through the roof. I don't suggest fomoing into meme coins but understand the fundamentals of it and the value proposition and you'll be greatly financially rewarded for it. Cash and gold will continue to stagnate or lose their value over the next 10 years IMO. Remember true inflation is around 10-12%, if your gold appreciates yearly by 8% it's losing purchasing power.

I agree with the other commenters that education is what's gonna save you in this game but I disagree on the points on crypto. Crypto is a revolutionary technology that's gonna change the world and eventually beat out fiat currency. Do your own research though, don't take my word for it. I recommend this the first 9 episodes of this, it's a series by Robert Breedlove and Michael Saylor; it'll make you understand the fundamental value of cryptocurrency and how money is just energy safeguarded through time and space.

You can do many things around chess that would help you make money from it. Start a youtube channel/twitch channel around it. Start a weekly chess meetup and make a social media page and interview the people that come to your events for content. Charge people either for membership or for coaching or if you get a decent amount of views on the content then you'll get good money from ad revenue. It is actually both a matter of emotional mastery but good planning. Complaining that you're depressed and not making progress is further taking you into your weak polarity. Let's make some plans, what do you want to achieve over the next 30 days? 3 months? How much money do you need to accomplish your goals? Have you ever tried selling/marketing something? Have you done any type of content production in the past?

I agree with you that AI will now have a higher quality of conversations that most humans. It's still cool to have conversations to relate on experience but if you want to be intellectually challenged then I've also found that here and places like Reddit will leave you disappointed. That's all fine though, literally the concept of evolution is at play here. I am very excited to get a Neuralink and experience things that no human being has experienced yet. If you haven't watched it def watch the Lex Friendman podcast where Elon explains that one of the goals is to increase human cognition and speed of awareness by 10-100x. What a time to be alive.

Find things that concepts that ground you. It sounds simple but for me a lot of it is women. Whenever the universe stops to make sense I remember I'm incarnated as a human male and I can make money and have sex and it is a satisfactory answer for me at the moment. If you don't find those grounding mechanisms you could easily think your way into a psychosis. Can be good food perhaps or I mean religion for others.