LordFall

I run a few masterminds on politics and business and the topic of wokeism came up and then I took that opportunity to explain flaws of Stage green and how it has to evolve to Stage yellow to have a powerful impact on society. People seemed to have interest in it so I'm thinking about running a mastermind call around an hour on spiral dynamics. Gonna review a few of Leo's videos but I'm curious what you guys individually like best about the model and what's the most useful insights around it. I wanna make it as non boring and direct as possible so people are encouraged to research it more and understand it.

@NoSelfSelf I don't understand your question

When you bastardize someone's point, you dim the understanding. The tate brothers have a great value proposition. Fuck society, build power and wealth and do right by yourself. A mix of stage orange and red. It's an extremely attractive value proposition to most men that feel disenfranchized. The only greater value proposition really is that you should indeed indulge and fulfill your stage orange and red needs but remember that society is not your enemy. As a matter of fact it is your greatest ally. And you are a warrior build for greater understanding with limitless power and if you choose to do so you can not only become a powerful and well networked man but who's life purpose is also to help save, support and enlighten mankind. Turning your back on society for some pussy and a bit of money is a hollow proposition with this viewpoint because you can have so much more. Infinitely more as a matter of fact.

I would like to believe that through sufficient understanding and great communication skills, I would be able to give insights and value from the model to most people. That is the purpose of spiral wizardry right? What are your favorite parts from the model and how would you communicate them?

I would argue that being evil is not only harmful but also doesn't even do hedonism correctly as it's too short sighted and you'll be stopped from embrassing your passions soon enough. If you want to rape people why not wait 5-10 years for VR so you don't end up in jail? What's the fun in embezzling money; I don't think you've experienced spending money you haven't earned. Gets old quickly. The best feeling in life is conquering your goals and the world and you can do that perfectly ethically and also gain the love and admiration of your people. There is no value proposition to evil; just low consciousness and foolishness. i.e. being an unevolved monkey.

What is the utility of this comment? What do you hope that Leo or anybody else reading it gains from it? Your understanding of spiral dynamics seems rudimentary, have you watched the whole series? Stage green is fundamentally a terrible stage what brings confusing to the world but it is much advanced than the ones below it. The solution is not to somehow fall back unto Stage Orange, it's to integrate it through Stage yellow understanding. Are you sure about this take? I worry about this isolationism take. I think under the right epistemological principles exposure to corruption will only ultimately make your truth stronger. I used to be a huge Tate fan as I'm quite power hungry but when the stuff on how he abused the women came out I had no choice but to repudiate him and tell everyone that mentions him about how corrupt he is.

I would probably figure out a way out if it were me. Only if you have a significant amount of money saved up, 20-50k USD ideally. Then have some crypto so you have transact globally and lookup how to whitewash it so the government can't track you. Investigate which route is less risky bribing the government or the mafia and try it out. Definitely wait at least a couple months after inauguration though to see what effect Trump actually has on the war. Spend the next 2 months until then educating yourself on the things I talked about and gaining a deeper understanding of the system. Make friends with mafioso and government officials, take them out for drinks, etc whatever you gotta do network and gain crucial information. You can also take the safe route and just build an online business so you're basically transacting globally anyway and building your life purpose and wealth and in a few years when this is done you'll be in a good position anyway. Godspeed brother.

Educate yourself(20-50 hours of podcasts and read books) on crypto and then buy it. Stock market is predicted to stagnate over the next 10 years but Crypto will go through the roof. I don't suggest fomoing into meme coins but understand the fundamentals of it and the value proposition and you'll be greatly financially rewarded for it. Cash and gold will continue to stagnate or lose their value over the next 10 years IMO. Remember true inflation is around 10-12%, if your gold appreciates yearly by 8% it's losing purchasing power.

I agree with the other commenters that education is what's gonna save you in this game but I disagree on the points on crypto. Crypto is a revolutionary technology that's gonna change the world and eventually beat out fiat currency. Do your own research though, don't take my word for it. I recommend this the first 9 episodes of this, it's a series by Robert Breedlove and Michael Saylor; it'll make you understand the fundamental value of cryptocurrency and how money is just energy safeguarded through time and space.

You can do many things around chess that would help you make money from it. Start a youtube channel/twitch channel around it. Start a weekly chess meetup and make a social media page and interview the people that come to your events for content. Charge people either for membership or for coaching or if you get a decent amount of views on the content then you'll get good money from ad revenue. It is actually both a matter of emotional mastery but good planning. Complaining that you're depressed and not making progress is further taking you into your weak polarity. Let's make some plans, what do you want to achieve over the next 30 days? 3 months? How much money do you need to accomplish your goals? Have you ever tried selling/marketing something? Have you done any type of content production in the past?

I agree with you that AI will now have a higher quality of conversations that most humans. It's still cool to have conversations to relate on experience but if you want to be intellectually challenged then I've also found that here and places like Reddit will leave you disappointed. That's all fine though, literally the concept of evolution is at play here. I am very excited to get a Neuralink and experience things that no human being has experienced yet. If you haven't watched it def watch the Lex Friendman podcast where Elon explains that one of the goals is to increase human cognition and speed of awareness by 10-100x. What a time to be alive.

Find things that concepts that ground you. It sounds simple but for me a lot of it is women. Whenever the universe stops to make sense I remember I'm incarnated as a human male and I can make money and have sex and it is a satisfactory answer for me at the moment. If you don't find those grounding mechanisms you could easily think your way into a psychosis. Can be good food perhaps or I mean religion for others.

Degrees are pretty useless in 2024, don't be stuck in the past. Competence is what matters mostly now as you have straight access to the market. You could be in a rural village in India and as long as you have an internet connection you can be selling stuff to millionnaires in New york city. Stop making excuses and learn marketable skills.

My life purpose is to be a world travelling entrepreneur with many women that works to help solve the world's problems. I'm quite confident that you can reach at least 2/10 proficiency in programming in a week. They have free courses on Youtube, this one is 2 hours but seems a bit outdated posted 4 years ago I'm sure you can find something decent and work through it this week. Why don't we have this conversation a week from now and you can update me on your progress. You got this brother

@Javfly33 Kind of but that's not a good point. There are people making a lot of money doing crazy awesome things with their life. The whole point is not to be discouraged but encouraged by that and bridge the gap so that you can do it yourself.

If I had to summarize it I’d say the core teachings are about abundance and absolute infinity. It is a much more radical belief that would seem, human life is fundamentally about scarcity and limitation.

Really? Buy my course bro. That's basically your post.

Document then; don't create. Make it along the lines of "My name is Jack and follow along my journey into the self-help world. Watch me learn and work with people to see how fast we can reach our goals." or something like that. Most youtubers don't have special knowledge they just share themselves and their journeys in an entertaining way.

You have the wrong mindset. I was 28 fucking around not doing much. Now I get paid to travel and build brands. Focus on the skillset, get a bs job to pay the bills and learn AI based coding. You could be rolling in money by 30 if you do it right. With your username and picture I'll assume you're from SEA and so that's perfect. Focus on finding something you can sell to a western customer in their currency and then spend in your weaker currency. How good are you at coding from a scale of 1-10 and how proficient are you with AI tools on that same 1-10 scale? Those two things are the key to your future my brother, don't give up hope you're at the perfect time in history to profit and get massive success from this next technological wave.

You need to go meditate my guy or smoke some weed you've lost it. That's basically the political version of inceldom. Great a grip and build something in the real world instead of flipping out on a forum. US will be fine and you're gonna end up dead/in jail if you do proceed with any of these plans. @Leo Gura you need to calm down these people

Let's break this down. What are you selling and what is your month to month revenue? Do you only sell on tiktok shop or other places? E-commerce is quite a difficult business model but you can make it work. I like to analyze exactly what's going on because emotions can't be reasoned with but if the logic makes sense then it'll work. Meaning that there is an exact formula to get you to 10k/month like clockwork; we just need to figure out what that is.

@Ramanujan Can you break that down if you don't mind? What did you spend 10 years doing, how did it fail and what would've needed to happen differently for it to be worth it for you? I'm big on business and product market fit; usually it's quite hard to make unorthodox things work but it is pretty much always possible.

@Hardkill Do you have a public platform? Why not start by sharing your thoughts on social media, influencing people slowly but surely what happens? Overreactions without concrete actions is definitely the shadow of liberals.

@martin_malin Good post

@Buck Edwards You're lucky marketing is one of the easiest fields to get into. I'd say it's quite hard to land a high paying job in it but that's irrelevant at the moment. How do you feel about business ownership and research? If you have a lot of social anxiety nothing is stopping you from staying in your house and learning about it online and getting clients/running a business without ever meeting them. What is your experience level in the field and your skillset that would help give you a competitive edge? No reason you can't be in the middle of the wilderness making 15$k/month and running a your marketing operation fully remote a few years from now.