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Then all current AI models fit your definition. You give it a true statement or a basis of information and it can perceive that information and act in alignment to it. @Scholar Yes those are good points to bring up. I think it's really important to separate consciousness from intelligence because it lies at the crux of the issue and why it should be more interesting to have this conversation on this forum than elsewhere. An ant or a bee is conscious but they are not considered intelligence. Sentience is another word to throw in the mix here to make consciousness more nuanced as with the work we do here we aim to increase consciousness and thus separate ourselves from other sentient human beings that exhibit low consciousness. I think LLMs are already capable of intelligent frameworks and train of thoughts than any human alive today. They are not sentient though and thus need to be infused with our own human consciousness to come up with these intelligent frameworks. I would then consider them a hybrid life form at this point. So we need to fame this AGI debate in terms of sentience because as me and Joshe pointed out, it doesn't need to cross that threshold to completely revolutionize our civilization. It just needs to start to have widespread commercial application. Which are inevitable in my view. And even in the view that some of you seem to take that machines cannot fundamentally develop sentience, I would call this a fundamentally foolish take. Especially since we know that sentience is barely understood and if we believe in non-duality then doesn't even come from organic matter it comes from consciousness itself so why wouldn't consciousness make a limited organic lifeform that easily dies that ends up combining the other forms of reality to create a more resilient lifeform based on computing? Is that really such a hard paradigm to believe in? Seems pretty logical if not inevitable to me.

So what is your definition of intelligence?

@Valach You just have one massive blindspot in your argument. Once you fix your trauma and codependence issues and not being enough then probably you will still want to date attractive women. You're just doing it from a place of genuine desire now instead of loneliness and desperation. Which is great I totally recommend doing that, heal your relationship with life and your childhood trauma. And then learn to level up and get abundance. You can't skip that step if you're looking for the highest quality dating life. I think most people want a deeply meaningful life with a powerful life purpose with a trusted romantic companion at their side(or many of them.)

Biological immortality is coming in the next 20 years

48 laws of power You need power to have success in the world otherwise you will ultimately not be able to be impactful.

Their combat ability is already lethal, it's over for humans on battlefields.

There is no real need to learn foreign languages anymore outside of interesting and hobby. Real time live translation is starting to become excellent. I'm ready for the robot era I think it'll change the world for the better. After everything unfolding in the US I'm also no longer really concerned about chinese imperialism. It seems their way to spread over the world is about internal consolidation and state stability instead of moral superiority masking great degeneracy. The epstein files gave me great hope for world peace as it completely destroyed the aura of superiority of the western system in my view. We are now exposed as a globally totally flawed species and only advancements in politics and technology can save us.

Absolutely which is why I think it's important to work on your game to the point where multiple attractive women find you attractive and then picking a partner from that. Otherwise the road to codependence and not being appreciated as a man is more than a slippery slope more like an express elevator. Being used for your secondary characteristics as a human is usually a bad feeling. For women that's being used for beauty/sex and for men it's being used as a provider/emotional safety tampon.

The problem with your argument is the average person is also like that. It's a lot of the human condition not particularly with people that choose to improve their social skills.

Just be careful of over generalizations. I've been involved in a few game communities across different cities and you can find that type of guy in it who's emotions are like a void that they avoid fixing but there are plenty of high quality dudes in there. My opinion is also probably unique because I watched the leo video against PUAs when he released it 10 years ago so the pitfalls of the community have always been very obvious to me and I only associate with the positive aspect of it. I will say that your opinion is misguided though because game is a wide skillset. Some of it revolves around putting on a persona and learning to charm women you don't know, part of it is also doing some trauma release work to develop your unique personality so that your persona and your authentic self become the same really you just become a social master of meeting new people and expressing positive energy. Plenty of average man never learn to do that and it's not a roast of them. They're just regular dudes that get overwhelmed with life and a lot of them give up and become overweight, get hooked on porn and lose their sex life with their wife. Look at deadbedrooms subreddit for plenty of examples on that. Learning effective communication and managing your emotions will never be toxic. Those are the 2 main core game skills.

Totally agreed. For those who doubt Bitcoin you need an alternative investment that you trust more over the next few years, please build an alternative case. Highly recommend that everyone and Leo included read the Bitcoin Standard by Saifedean Ammous. He makes a really clear and strong case for it by taking a look at all the other wealth preservation mechanisms in human history and weighting Bitcoin against them.

Right and I proposed actionable solutions to start working towards aligning your life productively. Victim thinking means that you spend your time complaining about how the system is vs figuring out how to adapt to it. Notice that there isn't much victim thinking in the animal kingdom. They adapt over millennia or go extinct. I don't have chronic health issues myself and I realize that's hard to deal with. Notice that plenty of people with them manage to become highly productive within the system though. I have a buddy who used to do some content marketing with me that has chron's diesase and is on constant medication for it with a monthly medical appointment and some days he gets flare ups and can't work. Leo also has talked about chronic health issues many times and it hasn't stopped him from building the actualized.org business. Right and she's a world famous olympic athelete. If you want a shot at dating a girl like that you're gonna need some major social circle game and having worked on yourself by the time you meet them my guy.

Feel free to elaborate but I'll disagree until you provide more context. You think learning to charm and seduce your girlfriend is not healthy behaviour? So common, a lot of people settle for just okay relationships. I would say probably like 50%. Provides a surplus of value to the people and women in his life. Fixed his insecurities and trauma. Is highly competent at some sort of skillset. Knows how to be funny and charming which fundamentally is about being in abundance of good emotions and confidence in your own ability to handle's life challenges. I don't date men but I'll notice a lot of times when I hangout with guys they're just clueless or just complain a lot or don't have the basic areas of life to be able to offer any value when you associate with them repeatedly. Whereas some other guys I learn something new each time I hangout with them, they have cool ideas for projects we could do together or just cool activities to do and they can introduce me to other cool people. All of this is learnable if you care enough about life to put effort into learning the systems to make this happen.

The one I tried was in a vape pen. It was nice because you can just vape it and reup as needed the amount instead of just ingesting and hoping the trip goes well. We did it at a cabin with a few friends and the dude that brought it was like a trip sitter/shaman talking through the experience was pretty cool.

I have plenty of dating experience with different women but ultimately to build the lifestyle that I have it requires some an elevated level of financial freedom so I don't mind not dating for a few years while I build the life I've been meaning to have.

I also have diagnosed ADHD, you just have victim thinking that's different. Very deadly but fortunately very curable. Very common in non conformist circles and hippie circles which is why I dislike them. Highly recommend the pomodoro method if you want to be productive. I'm not the top business owner in the world but I manage to get a decent amount of stuff done in 20 min increments in between anime and other hobbies throughout the day. What do you mean communism as a life purpose? Like you do nothing and other people provide for you? Thankfully for you you are immensely blessed to be living in 2026 and thus that's an actual possibility for your life. Maybe the AI overlords will decide to take care of you. Alysa Liu looks stunning, she's peak conformity what do you mean literally an olympic athlete dedicated her life to her craft and representing team USA in olympics. She's climbed at the top of the system through hard work. Plenty of girls that die their hair and have piercings that don't do shit with their life and complain all day, that's more the stereotype that I would personally recommend staying away from.

I don't like the dynamic that this creates I don't personally share women but plenty of guys are into it. If that's what you want don't let your dreams be be memes.

I agree, the US is bogged down by a crazy amount of bureaucracy. It should in theory help with the rule of law and a reopening of the Epstein case will pretty much definitely prove if it has the legal system necessary to police itself or if the equivalent of a regime change is also needed in the United States in the form of massive political reform.

One great form of intelligence that even AI systems today have is the ability to explain their thought process. You can give it the task of analyzing a complex geopolitical situation and ask it to explain how it came to its conclusion and it'll make way more sense than most humans today including our leading experts in a whole lot of fields. According to merriam-webster intelligence is defined as such: 1) a: the ability to learn or understand things or to deal with new or difficult situations b: mental acuteness : cleverness c: comprehension, knowledge d: Christian Science : the basic eternal quality of divine Mind I would say already today it would do better than the average humans in a, b, c and arguably potentially also d. What precise definition of intelligence are you guys using to claim it falls short of humans even today let alone 5 years from now?

Sounds unethical how do the aliens justify that in their society?

Plenty of great high quality women are into polyamory. If you haven't met any yourself that's a shame.

@Sammy123 Dating relates to the courting process not really long term relationship dynamics. If you have a point on that feel free to share. Having support in a loving relationship is great. Which is why I want 3 wives.

Interesting. When you put it like that could be true who knows how deep the rabbit hole goes. I had a pretty vivid mystical experience that involved greek gods giving me a mission, I might end up fulfilling it we'll see how it goes.

How is the US authoritarian? The Iranian government killed 6000- 30 000 of it's own protestors. The US nearly exploded when it killed 2. They're also not theocratic at all, lookup the word's definition. It's a state built on the foundation of secularism from the declaration of independence in 1776. If there is an authoritarianism scale the US would rank at like 25% on it and Iran 70%.

Another testimony of a woman that was 13-15 at the time. https://www.reddit.com/r/Fauxmoi/comments/1rmj9y0/in_new_epstein_files_release_from_doj_girl/ What is the process on the US judiciary investigating this case? It's pretty flagrant at this point there should be a website tracking official actions.