LordFall

We are part of evolution silly. Unless you aren't using a computer or phone like I am but are using a smoke signal or telepathy to write forum posts then you truly have transcended my level.

That's a shame, God made many little mini yous running around that you can also befriend and work together with to reach mutual goals and have a fun life together!

I just don't see how it applies in the situation. We were talking about relationships as a vehicle for growth and then you said that perhaps polyamory is a way to distract from our inner truth. Then you quoted my line on if we are left to our own devices we aren't much. Which makes a lot of sense to me, a human without its environment first of all cannot exist but even if it can it would have a limited experience of reality. We learn to exposure to the universe which perhaps can be called the higher self if we use non-dualistic terminology. Until we have multiple experiences with that greater self we literally cannot speak, barely think and well are limited creatures. That is why I think that over a 10 year period if one was polyamorous vs single vs in a monogamous relationship I think the polyamorous people will experience the greatest growth in inner truth and self-knowledge over the other two situations.

Yeah that's why I think becoming a high value man is so important. If you're a random dude with average value you can still do it but then I think you'll have a lot more headaches and random drama happening to you because you aren't really a source of stability or abundance you're just there and choosing to put yourself in a high complexity relationship without much to back it up. I'm bisexual. Dominating other men non sexually and sexually is quite fun. My desire for many women is separate from that but perhaps related idk psychology is deep. I think it would just be a lot of fun and growth for everyone involved. How so?

I agree to a point. I think this concept of self-knowledge and inner truth is a bit overplayed though. The self grows and reacts to outside stimulus. If we are left to our own devices then we aren't much. At best our minds just take us down interesting paths ala daydreaming but the self and the world are meant to be explored together IMO and so that's why I think the self would grow immensely through polyamory and thus it can also serve as a path of self exploration that will lead to more interesting insights than living like a hermit IMO.

I pasted your comment in Gemini and it said it's an inaccurate debunking. I think poly is a great way to explore spirituality and sense-making. You still need time to recharge and isolate as an introvert but you can do that even living in the same house and having a mancave type of thing. You learn a lot dating even one person so dating multiple gives you a breath and depth of experience and you can learn from each person's journey as well while overall being a guiding anchor. As I said I haven't tried but when I was in my more fuckboy phase I slept with multiple women in a short period of time and had multiple FWBs so I got a little preview of it. It was quite the positive educational experience but also a fun way to live life. Why would you not want to experience reality from the point of view of multiple women that love you? Seems more fun and rich than just a single one.

Yes one of their aims is to abolish the US Senate which is basically legally impossible since it needs a majority from both sides senators but overall they are a wave of positive change for the system. The US being anti-socialism is pretty cringe and only hurts most americans.

In an infinite universe with infinite possibilities, my boat will go towards the dock of multiple women at the same until I have burned through that desire which so far is only burning hotter by the day. Well I'm inspired by the post on vulnerability so I will crack open one of the skeletons in my closet which is I I do resonate with that kind of probably toxic polyamory at the moment. I don't actually mind my women sleeping with other men if I was polyamorous but my life is build on accumulating power so I will treat those men that are paramours with some kind of contempt and aim to overpower them in life so my women revolve more around me than them. I will explore this desire further and I'm curious what you guys think but I think perhaps it's healthy to a point. If I work on my business enough to get to the point of financial abundance in the future then pretty much surely the women I end up dating will end up partly financially dependent on me which is fine and I like the idea of being a provider male and I don't tend to leverage that fact over them. If there is another male in the picture then he is competition for me for my women even if it's in an agreed upon format and my women will then use my own money that I've given them in their relationship with this man which is fine to a point but I will get a lot of satisfaction from outcompetiting them and sort of cucking them in this format. We'll see if my thought on it change by the time I start poly dating next later this year or next year but I'm a very competitive person so even though I'm very open minded I find it hard to believe it won't play out in the scenario I've outlined.

Sorry to hear man that sucks. When I was 18 I moved out and got a cat, adopted her from the SPCA and she had a heart murmur. A year later she had fluid built up in her lungs and chance of survival was not guaranteed even with multiple thousands of dollars of surgeries so we chose to euthanize her. It's part of the reason I'm such a ferocious advocate of biotech and AI, a lot of deaths are preventable we just need to push science further faster.

Feel free to link your channels and I'll subscribe! Here is mine https://www.youtube.com/@Kyle_Fall/ I'm not great at Youtube but my most viewed video got 100K views in 24 hours when I posted it on the league of legends subreddit and got me the 400 subscribers I have overnight. So my recommendation would be similar to yours but to use other platforms and distribution channels to push your content as solely relying on the Youtube algorithm for growth is like canoeing across the ocean.

There is only one way to resolve it. We must become serious men of science and consciousness and explore reality with our penises and see which way leads to the best life. Someone needs to revive this thread in 2031 and see how we ended up. I will have been living with multiple women for years at this point if the general plan keeps on course and perhaps I will have some kids by then.

Your opinion is valid, it's simply that political science is already mapped out so I don't see a reason to deviate from their definitions. I you are right that emotional resilience is a subset of what leads an individual to achieve power because if you get stressed and break down when things get tough you will never be able to gain leverage in society. Power is important in dating because it reflects the resources you will be able to command from your society. Stage 0 is you have no power at all and are dependent on others to live. Stage 1 is you have a job and are able to sustain yourself. Stage 2 is your job allows you to sustain others as well Stage 3 is you start to build systems to not only earn income from the system of another aka your job Stage 4 your systems become sustainable enough to elevate your life and the life of others around you Stage 5 your systems become so consequential that you shape your society and civilization and you are part of local/federal/geopolitics Step 0 is kind of like an incel and you can hardly date from there. Step 2 is a traditional relationship. Stage 5 I believe is at the reach of a lot of people reading this and I think is worth striving for which is why I will defend chasing power as a tool of both making your own life better but also to be able to personally assist in the evolution of consciousness and mankind. It will also be much more exciting for a woman to date a man higher up in the stages of power as literally you're part of the plot of the world and can do both fun things but also shape the story of our species instead of a leaf in the wind, a wage slave or a random dude however you wanna put it.

Thanks for sharing, sorry you had to go through that. I think your definition of chasing power is more about coercive power and ego than actual power though. I like this definition centered more around your ability to influence others and thus the world. I would say that your bullying incident occurred because you didn't have enough power and status in that environment so insecure guys used your vulnerability as a tool to try and increase their own status. That type of insecure power is usually short lasting because it creates enemies wherever you go because the people that use it are using situational status as a tool of leverage as opposed to true power which just comes from being a source of abundance. I don't know you but maybe you're a smart nerd archetype and that guy instead of bullying you could've pitched you a business deal and you guys could've made money together. Truly powerful people don't burn bridges because it catches up to you. There are a few counter examples like president of the united states but that tale has not been fully written yet and if I had to bet that's gonna blow up in his face in an incredible manner so I still say that his life strategy is weaker than it could've been. This is a cool video and I highly recommend watching the whole movie. It also shares your view that dominance is power applied incorrectly and the true artful way of doing it is inducement where you seduce someone to your way of thinking as opposed to coercing them into it. The movie is about Professor William Moulton Marston who invented the character Wonder-woman, an early version of the polygraph and was openly polyamorous in the 40s while teaching at Harvard. Legend.

I think Occam's razor is an important thing to understand in regards to monogamy. It is more simple and easy for society to organize itself when monogamy is enforced. I've studied how relationships format have evolved throughout history and it's very context dependent. The best way to raise children seems to be in a communal format and our current atomized society pushes couples to mostly have to do that on their own. If you're lucky you have close family to help you but in general a two person unit is the structure of society today but wasn't the case before. I think polyamory sounds phenomenal and gives people a lot more options when it comes to structuring their dating life. I have not tried it myself but it's what I'm aiming towards over the next few years. There are some challenges that a monogamous couple wouldn't have but also vice versa. I think being able to share your intimate life with many partners and build a collective lifestyle and purpose together is a beautiful vision. I like women a lot so why not date multiple of them together and build a polycule instead of just limiting myself to one? I don't think either model is superior to the other, just depends on what you enjoy in life and which environment you think is optimal to bring children into the world if that is your goal.

That makes a lot of sense, exponentiality is a real thing and is flat for 90% of it until it takes off drastically. That's how my business knowledge feels, 14 years ago I started my first unofficial business and I got a lot of experiences that the average person doesn't have but I still have pretty massive holes in my execution capabilities that I don't see being filled until I'm 33-35 so mid 30s onward should be a different paradigm entirely.

Absolutely I think finding security in false power is a fool's errand and being able to admit your shortcomings is the hallmark of a confident leader. I don't really believe in overemphasizing your weaknesses just in owning them like Tyrion tells Jon Snow in the first episode of Game of Thrones"Never forget what you are for the world will not." I've watched most of Leo's videos. Can you explain how in your experience chasing power leads to powerlessness? I am very weary of vague spiritual ideas unless people can back them up with substance otherwise to me it feels like fortune cookie generic sayings that are true in some cases and not in others and aren't useful guidelines to live your life by.

Why are you being so antagonistic? Talk about lack of calibration lmao. Obviously power is very important in life otherwise you'll be a leaf in the wind unable to control your own fate let alone help others you care about. Why would weakness lead to happiness? Avoidance only goes so far.

Pretty wild situation, the latest escalation in Europe's refugee crisis. Except these aren't really refugees, these are apparently people organized by the government of Morocco/Israel(just from what I've read, nothing official confirming it) to pressure Spain and the EU due to Spain making a deal with Algeria to cut oil transfer from going through Morocco as well as taking advantage of a Spain Supreme court passed last month that prevents Spain from kicking out migrants that come by sea. Moroccan border security intentionally relaxing checkpoints has been confirmed. Pretty tragic situation especially for the residents of Ceuta which are basically getting invaded and left with struggle to access food as their cities are well invaded. Here is a post posted on the Ask Spain subreddit posted by a woman from Ceuta 2 hours ago. You can use browser translate to turn it from Spanish to english. https://www.reddit.com/r/askspain/comments/1vbqkv3/ceuta_ahora/ We have a lot of liberals and left wingers on this forum who will perhaps automatically side with the migrants but keep in mind there are no jobs nor resources on Ceuta to attomodate these people, even the Spanish and overall European economy is struggling. This leads to nothing but pressure on well meaning Spanish and European politician to escalate the use of force in dealing with these migrants otherwise it leads to anarchy. I do feel bad for the people being pushed towards doing this but it's not a good solution for them. The Moroccan government should prioritize vocational training and a business education for it's youth. Moroccan king Mohammed VI and prime minister Aziz Akhannouch should personally answer for this and help the moroccan youth figure their shit out. You're the king my guy use your title and status for a reason otherwise the next place they storm should be his house.

Don't limit this attitude to muslims, and even then it's not all that have this holier than thou attitude. Jews have this principle as the founding myth of their religion. A lot of religious folks use their faith as a currency to judge others, establish a social hierarchy, and feel superior without actually having to produce real-world value.

That's true. I think you have to divorce the mechanisms from the pathology though. Pickup is just a methodology to gain the skills to meet people on your terms. Some people use the skillset in a coping fashion but ultimately it's on the individual to understand if their true needs and desires are being met or if they are being layered unto by unhealthy distractions and pointless socializing. I find it much more common for people to cope in the other direction and not being able to create an impactful and fulfilling dating and social life and rationalize it away. I think demonizing external abundance is similarly a common trap in spiritual circles. It's phenomenal to develop a sense of well being just being by yourself and not having much ala Eckart Tole on a park bench. Beyond that though the world is very vast and there are many beautiful experiences to experience yourself and to share with others that you invite into your life and a lot of them tend to be very expensive. Aligning your deepest desires with your skillset and removing your mental blocks is how I've seen people tap into the truly phenomenal existences. @WonderSeeker Really excited to see how your trip to China will turnout! Location arbitrage is one of the top ways people can quickly change their life for the better these days. @AION What thread, I don't remember reading it. Link it again here and I'll give you my thoughts on it.

So like you have trouble kissing girls and leading them to your place to pull so you just dance with them and then go home alone? Limiting beliefs are real and they definitely sabotage us for reaching our desires. Girls are people to and they wanna have fun sexy adventures as well. As for stand-up—using night game to build stage presence, quick-witted banter, and crowd calibration is actually a great crossover of verbal game. Unless you're monetizing that comedy or already have your income automated, going out often without building long-term leverage/systems is eventually going to burn out your time and energy. How are you structuring your routine so your night game actively fuels your career/income instead of eating away at it?

He's hardly failed. This is but the beginning. He just found out about his autoimmune gastritis last month. He's gonna start heavily fighting it as well as his girlfriend's endometriosis which is a massive disease affecting like 10% of women worldwide. People's attacks on this guy are disturbing. Not that long ago one of the leading forms of medicine was to bleed people so that the balance of humors(bodily fluids) in their body could be restored. That's partly how George Washington died. Soon enough our current medical practices will look just as barbaric. Medicine makes wild progress in very little time and are many massive initiatives worldwide lead by different people to work on curing all diseases within the next decades. AI's recent recursive learning breakthroughs lead me to believe this will inevitably end in major success for humanity.

What do you mean by not allowing yourself to sleep with them? Like you don't know how to escalate or you have a mental block around it? It is fun but you need to structure systems in your life around it otherwise it's a waste of time and other areas of your life will lag behind. Which is why these guys start businesses where they go around the country and get paid to practice talking to girls and teaching other dudes about it.

Not enough bro. This year has been involved a lot of forced restructuring for me. Last year I made much more money but I was dependent on one main client that was paying me $5k/month and then we changed the format to be a pay per event contract which switched me from being an hourly worker to only working when I wanted to but having to deliver on hosting real world events for him which cut my income by about half. I moved back with my dad to cut my expenses and restructure my cashflow so its not dependent on working in hours and lets me acquire multiple clients that I can fulfill with a reasonable amount of work hours and enjoy life. By Q4 of this year it should start paying off and by next spring I should be able to travel and start to live the live I talked about here.

I don't know why people call it sleeping like a baby, they are notorious terrible sleepers. New parents average 4-5 hours of sleep in the first year of their newborn being alive. I don't think you understand how well I'm gonna sleep with my robot butler taking care of that little mini me on top of hiring an actual maternity nurse to soothe the journey. Also think about it if you got 3 women in a polyamorous setup and they raise your kids together then each women both has friends all the time with them to make it less stressful and boring and also each women has to do less chores by herself and has more energy and time to spend on you while you're done taking care of the business and the kids are sleeping and now you got your women for the evening. Sometimes people paint this caricature of money and game like wanting to only drink from 24 karat gold glasses or only picking up women from a Lamborghini; that's not really the idea. For example for that maternity nurse to help with first year of raising a kid that's about $7-10K/month. If you don't want to pay another woman to raise your kid and just want your wife to be able to be a stay at home mom depending on the cost of living in your area you easily need a $200k+ salary to afford that and a decent quality of life IF NOT MORE LIKE 300-400K. You guys know how people on this forum are like OMG I've awakened to God I can do anything life is a dream! That's basically how rich people live. They solve most of their actual mechanical problems with real solutions but that's expensive. I don't really aim to live like a low or middle class person long term if I don't have to, there's literally no point it's painful and boring for no reason. I don't know who knows what my actual marriage will look like 10 years from now but I'm looking forward to it. I've always been a romantic I love being in a relationship but it needs to be the right one, I learned all I didn't like from my ex so I'm building my life to avoid the same pitfalls in the meanwhile. What about you, what are your current dating bottlenecks and what type of monthly action are you taking towards achieving your dream dating life?