LordFall

I enjoyed reading your perspective bro thanks for sharing, it's true I come at it from a north american dating perspective. Dating is super competitive in western big cities so you need to try hard. For the field reports I've read from SEA and south america it's a lot more chill to date attractive women there. If you date in Calgary, Vancouver, Toronto, New York, Miami, LA, Vegas, London or Paris you need some dang good game and status to constantly be around and pull top tier women otherwise you're gonna struggle for the scraps. The problem I find with going after women that don't like social media is you cut yourself off from culture. Social media is just culture at scale globally. I don't really like hanging out with hippie stage green type women, I feel like they just reject culture and think they're above it without having learned to navigate it.

@Meeksauce Use social media to meet more people and post about the cool things you're doing in life not for playing psychological warfare with yourself. Ask her out tomorrow if she says yes she likes you if she says no move on to other women.

I'm in a stage of my life where I value abundance and impact not so much childrearing so that's not the type of content I watch but I like what Jordan Peterson and Grant Cardone have to say and they have multiple kids. The life I'm suggesting for everyone is achieving abundance and intentionality in their dating life and business/career life.

@Valach Totally but we have to define what pickup is then. I define it as the study of seduction and improving you dating life. If you define it as cringe pickup lines and categorize trauma release as a whole other field then you miss the whole essence of it. Meditation and self development were at the core of the pickup industry since I got into it 15 years ago. Julien is a beautiful example because you can see his own journey from being the dude that thought himself above life and disrespecting women to having to rebuild himself and what he values and his woman stuck with him through it and now they're married. I love how he focuses on the core motivations and the feeling of not being not good enough in his clients. What sort of journey and dating life do you actualize from a place of love and self-belief? It's the journey I'm on and it's great to live through. The guys I see stuck in the toxic stages of pickup are no fun to be around and are quite limited in their mindsets. Some dislike women as people which tells a lot of about their understanding of themselves and life. Women are great.

Have you tried it? What were your experiences like? I've tried it and you will meet some cool people that have not done much in life and are at their starting journey with not much competence in their fields. That's great if you're inexperienced but I like more high status and established women in their careers that can add value to my life. I can coach people if they're open minded but that saps a lot of energy.

As I've said, that's what you call a cognitive bias and an assumption. Can you elaborate on why you believe this? I admire Julien Blanc and Maximilien Tornow who are pickup coaches who are in relationships. I like what David Bond teaches, he's not really into marriage but travels the world and has more shorter term girlfriends. In terms of high status men I like Alex Hormozi, he's the power couple type that does philantrophy with his hundreds of millions of dollars. In terms of ecosystem I like Hugh Hefner, he was never divorced but his ex girlfriends have some indeed shady things to say about him. Will and Ariel Durant are now dead but they are a couple who became some of the top historians on earth and ran a thriving business and life purpose together. The problem is you're speaking from theory man. I take from successful men in all niches and apply it to my life and share what I've learned with my clients and online. I don't need a flawless role model to learn from because I can learn from their mistakes. Michael Sartain is a great coach who I've learned form but he's not married. Leo Gura is also a great man that I learn from but he doesn't have my dream dating life. Learn from your other selves on what makes sense to you and build your dream life standing on the shoulders of giants; that's my philosophy.

That's the low level way to do it. It's a great way to dip your toes into different communities and flesh out your interest but you need to dedicate time to really bring value to a social circle and get all that it has to offer. For example Toronto has a big startup ecosystem and a thriving film community with hosting one of the biggest film festivals on earth the Toronto International Film Festival. You can go as a nobody and meet people that are passing interest in them. If you want to get invited to the premieres and meet the actors and directors you need years to network into the industry. Same with the startup and business ecosystem. I once hit on a Netflix actress on the street and got her Instagram but she didn't follow me back. This guy I knew has a penthouse and hosts big parties and ended up sleeping with one of them so I mean there you go.

No they're not assumptions, they're common landmarks that we can use as epistemology to validate what is said. Instagram is the app that pretty much all women are. If you don't have a presence on there then you will be irrelevant to a lot of them, no matter how well built your life is. I have clients that pay me to build their Instagram, it's called personal branding. If you don't know much about the field nor have any way to showcase any social circle you're a part of nor the women that are in your life then your perspective is limited. I'm sure you've dated beautiful women since you're aware of how compliant they get when they trust you and feel safe with you. It's indeed important to get them to help you build your kingdom as well and not just be entitled princess that you labor for, princesses love to work for the king what else is there to do in this universe. @Elliott Not at all, you can feel free to elaborate your perspective but I've just fleshed out your mental block. If you had some intellectual integrity and awareness you'd thank me for it. Feel free to introspect on it and if you're able to point out flaws in my arguments and ideology feel free but it's pretty solid, well researched and tested so I sincerely doubt that you can.

It's interesting to see your perspective fleshed out over out conversations. I see that it's quite limited though. You're like a socialist being sour grapes to people doing better than you. First it was rejecting the idea of casual sex then it was rejecting pickup now it's rejecting high status women. When you do volunteer work you realize that it's also based on materialism right? Like volunteer organizations generally seek to help animals, or help the homeless or victims of domestic abuse or refugees. You realize that's a business right? Like they need funds to fulfill their mission and do their volunteer work. Don't you think that as a millionaire you could further those causes and help more people? And thus if you're a millionaire man you're a higher value man because you literally command more economic value than the average man and can thus fund causes that mean more to you. There are plenty of well connected attractive women that also value social causes. This caricature of "materialistic women" as being unpleasant shallow women that don't have any meaningful goals is really hurting you Elliott and anyone else who shares that view. What volunteer organizations mean a lot to you? For example princess Chiara de Bourbon is the ambassador for World Wide Fund for Italy and France so clearly animal rescue means a lot to her. Why don't you go organize big charity events around the world and you can meet attractive women who are into that. https://www.instagram.com/chiaradebourbon/ The high status women are too materialistic for me is cope brother, they're just women and people and usually are pretty cool and well developed too. Go level up and date one or many of them. They're super cool to hang out with, they have cool ideas and if you're a competent man with resources you can help them make their ideas come to live and live a fun life of purpose and abundance with them.

Groups fall of over time through drama or people going their own path if there is not a solid glue holding them together. That's where you come in as the social circle leader! People are so lost that if you consistently host cool events that have value you will invariably rally people together.

I like attractive smart women with a lot going for them. You can call them materialistic or you can call them in demand with a lot of options. @Zenterus Good luck with the events, they're fun but a lot of work. What is your taste in women? Once you start doing them you'll see you can cater to specific niches but it takes a while for the seeds to flourish. I'm gonna be doing some fashion events in Europe in spring 2027 so gonna be meeting meeting even more stunning women there. @Hojo I love the status game, as an INTP I find it very fulfilling. You get to unravel the mysteries of the universe and sleep with beautiful women as a reward. They're not more annoying than men, just have their own objectives as humans. Women need to feel safe in a chaotic world and unless you're the man you can't really dominate your society and offer them safety, purpose and a fun existence at your side. @WonderSeeker Totally people have different goals, I aim to encourage those that want to achieve more and document my journey. I'm not where I want to be and it's looking like in 6-8 months my setup will level up even more so I want to showcase the journey and progress of it. Everyone can achieve a level of this if they want so I just get disappointed when I see people getting stuck at level 2 of the journey and giving up. @theleelajoker Some ways work better than others brother. It's not generic at all, I've studied most game coaches and only people like RSD Luke and Michael Sartain do social circle game at a high level. I've learned from both and it's why I've been able to do some pretty crazy events and date some girls that I don't see anybody else have even access to lol. If you're able to replicate some of this feel free to share your Instagram and share your results as well. They say the two core male delusions is being able to fight any other men out there and being able to pickup any woman. That's why having IVE(irrefutable visual evidence of your life) and receipts is key if you wanna come at it from a similar place of authority. I'm a polyamorous man myself and want to explore the world and date many of these women and buy a castle somewhere and settle down with a few wives so getting one attractive girl to be into me was only the start of my journey. I'm grateful to all the women I've met so far and am looking forward to meeting many more! Hot women teach you a lot about the universe and if they're difficult in your experience it's because they have a lot of shit test to screen out men. If you are what they want they turn into princesses it's funny and very pleasant to witness. Women are the greatest invention of God apart from the universe itself, such a joy to meet your divine counterpart in physical form.

No Leo she's real the hot witch girlfriend, she does have real magic it comes from a supercomputer though.

You can literally go on bdsm forums where women will talk about wanting to find a dominant to be in a sex slave to(consentual). The most extreme version is called 24/7 total power exchange. Women are generally kinkier than men, they've found this in many surveys. You could definitely date women for many years that will never deny you sex and help you build your dream life. Ultimate and infinite sexual satisfaction is of course possible it would be a pretty big flaw of the universe if it wasn't. I haven't even pitched you AI/VR girlfriends yet those will change the world in the next 5 years wait til they're connected to an AI agent that work for you 24/7 as well. The future is a wild place.

I see what you mean but I still believe our best future fundamentally lies in post scarcity. You can also look at most relationships today as cope and basic survival as opposed to great unions of love. Once humanity is unloaded of our burden of basic labor for survival we will face a gigantic intellectual, cultural, artistic and romantic renaissance.

In what way can you elaborate? Sounds like a mindset problem and a clue towards mental blocks that you might have more than a social media problem. Why don't you use social media productively? You found yourself endlessly doomscrolling?

Have a solid plan towards an enjoyable future that you move toward daily.

Have a solid goal that you're making progress towards. I feel like anger, violence and wrath are common reactions towards encountering a seeming deadend in life but if you have faith and are moving forward it's hard to really be that mad in my experience.

Got paid $500 by my main client right now so I have some spending money. I mainly get leads from Instagram ads and it works consistently which is nice and eventually will be endless money if I can master the system but it's hard. Alex Hormozi said in a recent video that he talks about ad budget management in his 3rd money book money systems so I'm excited about that because ads are really a crazy misunderstood thing. If you can do them well you can acquire endless new clients that want to give you money for whatever offer you're running but you have to run a profitable offer and manage your bankroll well. All skills I currently lack and thus why I sleep on my buddy's couch right now but I'm closer than ever to figuring it out so feels good. I pay a guy $50 to assist on the podcast so I keep $450 of it and had to pay my phone bill so down to $400. Should have another podcast in a week which will take my bankroll to $900 then right back to $400 with paying $500 in rent at the start of the month but now I got some play money at least.

Yes, I'm like $25K in debt rn I talked about it on my journal thread here : For me it's like a cornerstone of my personality. I have a hard time saving and tend to impulse buy stuff or even just invest it in smart things but that aren't fully sound. My biggest breakthrough lately is managing my money in multiple accounts and stacking my liquid cash in cash etfs that take like 2 days to cash out it's harder for me to impulse buy. I'm an entrepreneur so if I don't misuse my money I can always make more of it and that's held true but it's' unreliable and inconsistent. It's something I would like to solve and have solid consistent cashflow and a control on my finances 12 months from now.

Cold approach benefits a lot from momentum, if you stop doing it for a while you lose the ease of approach. That's why I'm more of a fan of social circle and social media game, your progress is longer lasting. Make sure you get the Instagrams of all the women you cold approach and not numbers so you buildup your page and not just have an endless list of useless numbers after a few months of doing it.

I'm in the process of building a web 3 game right now where you can make money from playing it. It's gonna be called legend of the abyss. Video games a return on investment on the time spent on them IMO otherwise at best they can give you stress relief and perhaps inspiration for another project that will then be worthwhile to you. Here are some of the concept arts I got AI to help me with : I want to make it similar to the MMORPG Dofus; had a lot of fun playing that when I was younger. Definitely put 10 000 hours in it. Just wish I still had access to my original character and items as NFTs or something it'd be worth a fortune now.

No I disagree with this premise, I think this was the goal of evolution the whole time. If you found your dream girl tomorrow and she was everything you wanted and I came and killed her at the end of the day how on earth would it make that experience more special? I think you will now be able to enjoy your girlfriend forever and also get to live a life beyond economic scarcity with AI post scarcity. Capitalists benefit from stability and order, chaos is bad for business. Everyone on earth getting UBI and then buying their products and consuming them for all of eternity is good for business. WW3 is bad for business. Billionaires want to become immortal. Biological immortality is a good incentive for all parties involved. We're going post scarcity baby.

Sure but it doesn't make one technology have the same drawbacks as an other. I know you don't like Elon but at least contrast him to someone like Richard Sackler who became a billionaire by exploiting the opioid epidemic in the united states and shilling Oxycotin and lying about its effects and being almost directly responsible for hundreds of thousands of deaths. Also technology will solve the fundamental limit of our current civilization = scarcity.

Technology is just efficient solutions distributed at scale. Whatever you think sages and saints has is not distributable at scale. World peace will come through technology I could bet on it, it's definitional. You're right to be scared and concerned but I would be grandly optimistic as well. It's no accident that the epstein case and the US vs china showdown is happening right as AI is about to takeover the world. The great alignment is coming unless you believe in the great doom for some reason.

I used to like video games but they're pretty boring to me now. I like to watch fantasy tv shows and anime. Watching The Tudors right now it's pretty dope.