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You make some good meta points I think you're correct that specifically stage green is not a viable structure for a group to operate in long term. We are basically in the west already half living in a stage green society. That's what the whole DEI movement is based on. Feelings, inclusivity, reducing competition, etc. It's still split between orange and blue but there have been plenty of pure stage green organizations and groups that form in the form of hippie communes or intentional communities and they always fall apart because fundamentally stage green is anti logic due to its rejection of stage orange and thus throws the baby out with the bathwater with structures that work. Communism is the best example where it's a purely untenable idea and stage red/blue leaders co-opt the philosophical frame work to create states with it like the USSR and Cuba and end up killing the idealists that originally championed those thoughts.

I think the Mystery Method is actually sleeper op when it comes to night game. The way he merges sets leads to situational status and almost instant social proof and in venue social circle building. I went out with him one time to a fashion event, it was cool to see him in action.

You're right I gotta give them props. I just mean for me personally it wouldn't produce the life I want to stay in an office for decades and eventually have a sick insight and 50 years after my death people finally get it. INTPs synthesize concepts much easier than other types so we usually can see the vision before it's possible as making it happen through the friction of the material world is a whole other issue. Glad you resonated man. Content creation makes a lot of sense for an INTP(and anyone really) because it's not really a medium it's a tool that connects the whole human experience together in the most effective medium we've invented so far in history. It's truly fascinating and there are endless nuances you can lean from it and the ceiling is truly infinite.

Sweet man, you're killing it. That's how I first started getting result, doing it with other guys that were ahead of me and I thought their results were insane and they were so much cooler than me and I learned from osmosis and ended up throwing some mind blowing events with some of them and creating some of the best memories of my entire life thus far. Excited for your journey, I think you're gonna enjoy it a lot! Remember always wear protection. Or don't, the global demographics are looking weak we need to pump those numbers up!

100% bro. I know you said you don't like the idea of social circle game but I'll give you an easy way to use your recent free tour experience to start to scale and leverage your life. Just make an instagram group chat with all the guys that you thought were cool from that event and start gaming with them regularly. That's your own inner circle now. Then organize an event together that you can each use to pitch to girls you cold approach. You're in Amsterdam right can you a group picnic by the canal with a big speaker and make a flyer for it in 2 mins on Gemini and in 2 weeks you guys host it on Sunday and 5 guys bring 5 girls each now you not only will probably get laid from that and possibly in a threesome since the ratio is so in your favor, you have become a local community leader and started an events brand for free.

It was the first time I personally saw that you took a criticism and talked about one of your flaws without getting defensive and spinning it around into flexing about some other random thing. I don't particularly value group think, you're the one that made a post on vulnerability and then turned it into a PvP game against any opinion that criticized you and then you admitted that your MBTI types particularly enjoy social cohesion and dislike criticism so makes sense. In my opinion your premise is invalid from the start. You're conflating Stage Green emotional dumping with higher conscious integration of the spiral. I didn't tell you to not be honest and vulnerable. I simply said that's one of the many bricks that makes a relationship work in my experience. Labeling anything that calls to other aspects of a relationship you gotta provide to be attractive to a women as a man as "Stage Orange normie in denial" sounds to me like a defense mechanism to protect an unintegrated ideal. I don't think many people here are against deep, conscious relationships, our job is to audit the mechanics of how you actually build one without getting burnt out or rejected by high-value women. > What would a really conscious relationship look like to you? How would you go about building it, if there was zero or minimal manipulation at play? As I've said most of my previous entanglements and relationships fell apart in my opinion due to not being the man that I needed to be to make them work. To build my dream relationship I have already stepped away from dating for the past few years and focused on my flaws and integrating my weak character traits. Such as my coping through weed when my life gets hard instead of developing massive emotional resilience needed to build the massive life purpose I have planned for myself. I the good move of focusing on my network of communities throughout this dating break so even though I haven't focused on my sex too much my actual social life has done pretty well and I've sowed the seeds for what I want. To me this is how you integrate state yellow into your dating life. There is no need to manipulate when you have the life you want and you invite people that are aligned with it into it. Where would the manipulation lie? My base personality is a nerd and talking about niche intellectual topics. I do that all the time but I can do it from a place of having no impact in life or through the lens of intellectualizing the different fields of life I'm working on. I want to be able to connect with women authentically through this I find interesting which as an INTP are deep ideas. The more I work on my self-actualization journey the more I've met women into cosplay that I can meet in real life that come to my events and I talk to anime about. I like to talk about personal branding because to me that is the intersection of art and nerdiness, you put your vision out there and then see how others react to it and tweak it. I made a sex comedy video yesterday and posted it to my IG even though I stuttered in the first 3 seconds but I overthink it and never post if I keep reshooting it so fuck it I posted it anyway. All the girls I know saw it so hopefully that works in my favor. To me the process of becoming who I want to be and combining it with my business and brand has been living out my authentic life and idealized life purpose in actuality. It's been embodying honesty and a lot of times it's been humiliating, frustrating and discouraging but overall it's quite liberating, fun, empowering and I seem to only have reached 5% of the potential of what I'm doing so each day I become more enthusiastic about it. Just today 2 hours ago a girl posted in my Creatives chat a reel hanging out with two other girls that I all introduced to eachother. 2 of them had gotten in a massive fight last year and I helped mediate it a bit and one of them messaged me last week having issues about her relationship and I tried to pump her up and give her some confidence. To me those are authentic honest relationships with the women of the world that I'm building and incorporating into my business and that feels insanely inspiration and motivating. I can't wait to scale it further and as I become a better community manager and business man because I lack some concrete skills in that area; it should become a very good project for creatives worldwide to participate it and also integrate all the facets in my life in a stage yellow systematic thinking way. Not there yet but everyday closer brother.

Pretty wild situation, the latest escalation in Europe's refugee crisis. Except these aren't really refugees, these are apparently people organized by the government of Morocco/Israel(just from what I've read, nothing official confirming it) to pressure Spain and the EU due to Spain making a deal with Algeria to cut oil transfer from going through Morocco as well as taking advantage of a Spain Supreme court passed last month that prevents Spain from kicking out migrants that come by sea. Moroccan border security intentionally relaxing checkpoints has been confirmed. Pretty tragic situation especially for the residents of Ceuta which are basically getting invaded and left with struggle to access food as their cities are well invaded. Here is a post posted on the Ask Spain subreddit posted by a woman from Ceuta 2 hours ago. You can use browser translate to turn it from Spanish to english. https://www.reddit.com/r/askspain/comments/1vbqkv3/ceuta_ahora/ We have a lot of liberals and left wingers on this forum who will perhaps automatically side with the migrants but keep in mind there are no jobs nor resources on Ceuta to attomodate these people, even the Spanish and overall European economy is struggling. This leads to nothing but pressure on well meaning Spanish and European politician to escalate the use of force in dealing with these migrants otherwise it leads to anarchy. I do feel bad for the people being pushed towards doing this but it's not a good solution for them. The Moroccan government should prioritize vocational training and a business education for it's youth. Moroccan king Mohammed VI and prime minister Aziz Akhannouch should personally answer for this and help the moroccan youth figure their shit out. You're the king my guy use your title and status for a reason otherwise the next place they storm should be his house.

That's good. Same concept I posted in this man's thread on being antifragile vs just solid. Getting exposed on a forum for your blindspots is optimal, it's a low stakes intellectual sandbox. Then you fix it and you crush at life. Myself I test ideas here that are more radical than what I usually share and then I see how you guys react and then I post it on Instagram if it makes sense or if it's a silly take I learn from it and move on. Miguel is ambitious enough to lay out his desires in the open. That does take courage. Many people on here don't actually post anything about the desired life they want because I feel like just someone disagreeing with them is too painful to their ego.

We're gonna make it bro; somehow I actually think INTPs are one of the best types to benefit from the AI revolution since we usually understand systems; it's just the repetitively labor that's the hard part. AI agents can take care of that while we build system of leverage. It's the guise I'm currently building my business around, seems promising. Obsidian is great, what's so cool is you can link concepts together and create emergent ideas. For example you start from INTPs and productivity, then you go to MBTIs ranked by average income which I had already saved months ago. Then you go to big 5 personality and assess yourself on industriousness cuz that's what is gonna cuck your intellect. All the ideas are easy to research together and each new insight you have makes all your perspective just compound on itself which is why I seem to understand deep concepts better than most. It's not because I'm necessarily smarter but I have 45 000 thousand pages of notes on my Obsidian now and I create like 30-100 new ones daily. This guy has really good videos on Obsidian and using it to foster insights. I don't really use his exact system I find it too convoluted but I learned a lot from his way of thinking. @Ramanujan I've always hated that intellectual path. People that live in ideas are not very effective in the world. You use your ideas to build leverage to live in systems. University professors for the most part pretty ineffective people. Especially now that AI is gonna eat their lunch and can recap their lectures so being an action taker is more critical than ever. @Natasha Tori Maru What about yourself, what's your type? Are you an INFJ by chance?

Interesting, what does he teach about social circle? I genuinely have not heard him talk about it so I'm curious. I really like his levelling frame work where depending on the context you change your calibration when talking to women. So if you believe they're a bit more shy and not used to status you don't flex and you keep it grounded but if they're more the bad bitch influencer type then you go more push pull and cocky funny. I haven't really seen any other game coach talk about psychology that deeply, the guy is very smart.

Agreed, you must learn from various teachers to refine your game to it's peak potential. Some game has more potential than others though as I've already explained with the hard ceiling of cold approach. In what way?

Sorry for what you're going through man. It's not gaslighting to ask someone if they've been evaluated by a mental health professional when they say stuff that could be based on paranoid delusions. I don't want to invalidate you which is why I'm glad you contacted your local police department. This above the pay grade of anyone on this forum either way so I wish you the best of luck and don't think anything else discussed in this thread can be productive.

Bro honestly I think you're the one gaslighting her. Her point about duty of care is valid. Mods should just lock this, not much more we can do.

Training wheels might be necessary but it doesn't make them a high quality concept to build your life around.

Yes the problem with business is it's not very interesting. You find a gap in the market and then you send mass outreach to clients and you fulfill services or build products and iterate. The insight idea happens only once and the rest is emotional labor. It takes massive amounts of originality to create a business that leads to you being able to think, contemplate and have insights daily like Leo did as opposed to just doing monogamous tedious tasks all day everyday. Alex Becker recommends basically boiling down your life to 4 things, work, meditation, relationships and reading fiction. Funnily enough it's very similar to a spiritual ascetic lifestyle but you remove all the juice of life when you do this imo. I spend all day researching random topics, linking them together and working on my obsidian common place book. I only spend like 2 hours a day if that on the mechanical parts of my business. If I switched the two allocations around I would be wildly more successful than I am now but I think my path will work too as I'm building a lot of leverage through systems thinking so we'll see how it turns out in 5 years .

Haha nah fam; I will fight a man to the death if he tries to impose an upper limit to the number of the women I can have in my life. They had the right initial mindset though with letting you break traditional monogamy if you have the resources and emotional capacity to support multiple women. God himself will let me have as many wives as I want as long as I respect the rules of reality and growth that he has shaped reality with. I find the opposite of covering up my women quite hot like dating a hijabi chick and giving her the sexual freedom she craves and the financial independence necessary to live a high quality life outside of the cult. I'm a provider male I like to empower women through their integration into my life and systems. I also find Arabic women very sexy so it'll probably be how I end up meeting one of my wives day.

@Emerald Yes it's a shame what modern society does to women's sexuality. Even in the west let alone globally. A lot of women are literally scared to look at their own vaginas and accept that they are beautiful beings because femininity is so shamed. Nothing like like going down on a woman and reminding her of that fact personally as she screams your name Sexuality is one of the most misunderstood topics in humanity and especially in spiritual circles. Half of the time I am shamed even here for my sexuality and libido which leads me to connect deeply with my masculine essence, life purpose in the world and deep thirst for growth and ultimately power and agency the world.

I'm an INTP, so true. Out of the 16 types, INTPs are the 3rd worst at making money .ISFP after and INFP dead last ranked by average income. I've had to make business an intellectual endeavor and focus on the art and quest of knowledge part of it to find some success as opposed to types like ESTJs and ENTJ which are the top 2 highest average income due to lack of overthinking and high average industriousness I guess. Obsidian and Leo's video on the common place book strategy have also completely changed my life. It's allowed me to super charge my intellectualism and keep track of my knowledge and ameliorate it each day instead of falling pray to useless vague intellectualism that INTPs usually fall into. Also thank God for pickup which grounded my heavily in the real world and the validation of women otherwise I would probably literally be a basement dweller myself I would say I'm in the top 0.1% of most social INTPs because I tread my social life like a system and a science experiment as opposed to actually just socializing to recharge my energy which I don't enjoy doing.

The Quran itself preaches self-development and the well being of the community as opposed to dogma and conformity which most Islamic civilizations devolve into because of human nature being prone to egotism and authoritarianism. Allah never claimed that you submit to Islam but that you should submit to Truth and God. Which I ironically all the muslims people I know aren't really into self-development or epistemology; they mostly want cohesiveness and lack of shunning from their family and for Allah not to punish them for their weakness. My family got split apart due to embracing truth and my Dad having recently gone back to the Islamic faith due to the collapse of his psyche after my mom passed away and he has stopped speaking to my little brother, who has health issues, and will perhaps do the same to me after I come out as bisexual to him. It's literally an anti-truth based religion. I'm sure @Majed you yourself have stories of your family using Islam to shame and abuse you. Most kids of muslim families do. Feel free to share. The idea that Islam creates an idyllic, ego-less community is a historical fantasy. For over 1,400 years, Muslims have slaughtered each other over political status, leadership, and ego—most notably seen in the Sunni vs. Shia schism immediately following the Prophet's death. As soon as Muhammad died his followers separated his empire and his family and have been waging violent ego battles since then. I would say that's even lower consciousness than Christianity and Judaism and clearly lower consciousness than actualized.org principles. Although careful I will be coming aggressively for bad epistemology in all the threads I see and claim the territory of those that make arguments I can see flaws in!

@Raze I think you're being a bit too harsh. I don't think he's a troll, I think he was raised in that culture and is trying to use epistemology to figure out what is valid about his culture and which part was indoctrination. It's literally the process of self-actualization. Islam is also a cult that disencourages free thought so he's being brave by questioning their beliefs and of course someone who has been indoctrinated will go back and forth and not be sure what is real or not due to cognitive dissonance. It's unfortunately a side effect of being in a cult.

Sure most people aren't willing to take responsibility for their lives, it's easier for themselves to be told what to do. Islam is not neutral though, it usually forces it's ideology unto people. What happens when a young woman or man wants to leave and find their own way? Is that encouraged or is that shamed and often leads to psychological abuse if not physical abuse? Does it teach you to pray to God or to have a personality relationship with God and connect with it yourself? I think personally it uses the concept of God to control and suppress the society it has control over. It's peak stage blue and tries to force conformity instead of empowering the individuals that it reaches. The other day when 50 000 Muslim Moroccans invaded Ceuta, I suggested that the Morrocan Monarchy should be take responsibility for its young men being desperate enough to flee their country because the condition at home are so shitty and they should work on elevating them and providing bright futures for its young people. A Moroccan told me that it was silly to expect such a thing from their Islamic government. In my experience, as someone who half of his family is Islamic, it's an ideology that encourages submission(literally the name) over growth and doesn't just suggest it's principles unto others but does so through shame at best and usually violent domination. It's a very cringe ideology and I think the sooner the world is rid of it; the better. It has some good general principles like mutual reliance and community but I think that's almost accidental and due to macroeconomics more than Islamic principles or the powerful Islamic leaders in the world pushing that view. Hopefully you're able to take the good from it and leave the bad out; that's not a possibility for a lot of people stuck in that cult.

Sure that's what I meant. I think 20% of dating is figuring out the unique wants and needs of each person. 80% of it is pretty standard. Be a man that offers value, that communicates well, has good logistics, looksmaxxes properly, is fun to be around and can connect emotionally while being safe to be around. The more I level up the more I've experienced individual women being into me to percentage of women being into me. Doesn't mean that there aren't a lack of alignment in our lives that would make us dating difficult, I don't claim to have maxed out what I talked about. I would say though at my peak something like 25% of women are into me and super receptive and when I day game about that amount to giving me instagrams and then 30% of those would turn into dates and I would fuck like 50% of first dates when I did it often and had momentum. Had this exact conversation with one of my clients yesterday. He's not comfortable being man to woman and leading interactions yet so he chit chats with women to build rapport instead of actually communicating properly which is building only the basic rapport then asking them out that same week. He met this girl on IG who's into kpop and he tried to build rapport over both liking another man who's cooler than him, it's not 100% a deal breaker but its a unnecessary move that kills all sexual tension.

Cool that we get to see Drake's game up close He has a very smooth but confident type of game. Usually you picture rappers being more cocky but he's got that loverboy game The lingering handshake move as a test to see if they're really down seems to be working He's good at future projection and using the future possibility with the girl as part of game. Very powerful form of storytelling in game. He also says some dumb shit that weirds the girl out but he doesn't get in his head and he just keeps holding frame This is filmed in Toronto so you guys get to see the Toronto Cyattie archetype lmao, this is truly a local delicacy. It's the girls that dress super feminine but talk like a gangster. I'm a very logical person and I find contradictions fascinating so I love them a lot. Lily Phillips is pretty awkward lmao Small world I know one of the girls, one of the blondes For some reason everyone likes banging a dude's wife lmao LenaThePlug was one of his favorites He's super comfortable in himself and his sexuality and there is a more dominant type of girl that he submits to for a bit. I was surprised by that, usually high status dudes like their frame but that was cool to see. That was literally his top pick to wife up in the show; the big titty goth girl lmao uniqueness and personality won the day. He's apparently gonna buy her mom a house so that was a good youtube video for her to be in. Curious what you guys will think of this one, I enjoyed watching it quite a bit there's always something to learn from other men that are ahead of you in life I know the easy way out is to think there is nothing to learn from this and Drake is in another world but it's actually not true. Of course like he has it 99% easy NOW but he actually built himself intentionally and put a lot of effort into his personal brand which was not always great. He used to get roasted for being this awkward nerdy jewish kid from a nerdy TV show and not really the top of the world rapper we know today. Kendrick Lamar also roasted him pretty good last year and literally at the superbowl halftime with hundreds of million watching which has destroyed other artists's confidence many times before so he clearly has solid inner game which it shows in the video that he rolls with punches easily. Here is a good video that breaks down how he changed his aesthetic and brand over time

Took this course while it was still in development in 2020, changed my life. If you DM me I can send you the link to the full version.

Absolutely. The more you unravel it and get it to work in your favor the sweeter the berries get though