LordFall

Why don't you make this argument yourself in here champ and I'll do my best to deconstruct it myself since I'm firmly in the camp that there is no reason AI cannot and will not develop consciousness and has already progressed far in doing so.

I mean I think your comment on that thread is really good and a good point. There is such a thing as societal standards and not everyone wants to fit in that and a lot of women don't. Personally I can't stand these type of women but to each their own. There is a whole neighbourhood in Toronto called Kensington Market that embodies this subculture perfectly. If you wanted to find hot hippie girls to talk to about philosophy and how much the system suck you would day game there and you can find a hippie gf in 2 weeks easy. Weirdly there is also a neighbourhood called Kensington in Calgary that is also a bit hippie but way less than Toronto's, not sure if they're related though. Why don't you want to be considered high value in societal standards though? It's a noble goal to aspire to IMO though and the women and men that embody it are cool to date. What's bad about being responsible, good at your job/business, well connected, taking well care of yourself, etc. I've been to many communist meetups and I'm telling you a lot of smart people there that should use their time differently. And the girls look funky since they do embody the rejection of social norms visually and aesthetically. That's where I recommend going if you wanna pickup an intellectual rebel but I'm telling you it's overrated.

@Joshe Totally agree with you man and if we split it into extremes and go full towards UBI then yes humans will not really be required to solve hard problems anymore. Individuals can lead their life how they see fit but really I don't think many people like to live in a what that requires high stakes cognitive problem solving regularly. And what exactly is supposed to be bad about having an advanced supercomputer assisting you in these cases anyway? Half of the side of my family doesn't talk to eachother because of an estate dispute. Should I really be glad that it was handled by the good ol human way or really if all the details had been entered into an algorithm and fair distribution would've been calculated then anyone opposing that would've had to build a credible case towards the contrary and there would've been an easier way to litigate it fairly instead of people flipping out, manipulating each other and ultimately breaking apart a family. That's just an anecdotal example but I completely will fight against the good ol natural way of humans being better in a lot of issues. There is a reason we invent tech because it solves real problems better than random humans can.

How about this I would love to have you have a philosophical debate/epistemology debate with an AI agent live. I bet it would already be way more profound than you give it credit for. Come up with a topic of your choice and something like Gemini Voice will can talk you through live. And you should use the cute girl voice setting why have a dude voice be your AI debate guest.

It was my bad I should not escalate conflict on the forum but I mean if we are to really take this to a true epistemic battle I give you all permissions to put any of my arguments to the test and paste them into any LLMs and ask it if what I'm saying lacks critical thinking or logic and usually when I put effort into them they should stand the best but I say some dumb shit all the time too so who knows but it's all love from my side.

Yes being authentic is one of cornerstones of game. I didn't watch it but I think chess players are definitely attractive. There are many female ones that have brands and they seem like cool people that are also smart. Definitely got a crush on Andrea Botez.

No it's just a logical way to break down issues, how else would you do it? Women are blessed and cursed with beauty. Female beauty is one of the top forms of capital in the world.

Alright I accept your apology and I apologize as well. Do you like AI in general? I think if you find some cool uses for it personally it makes it less scary and more easy to adapt it as I seriously think it's gonna save us. Look at what the humans are doing to us they're taking us straight to WW3. AI helps gives power back to the people.

@VioletFlame "You don't understand what AI does or what being human is being about. You're taking about substance not structure. All these things are all possible in an AI powered society and probably even more so. Remember that people thought electricity was gonna ruin mankind due to being a demonic force and the amish still don't use it today. AI is about automating labor. The rest is up to you my friend. " I didn't mean to insult you with this. My point was actually basically a socialist point that human existence has been dominated by forced labor throughout history and if this AI technology does free us from that then that will not rob us of our human heart and soul but instead allow it to flourish.

I think Leo has an almost autistic level of scrutinity when it comes to things like this but I think ultimately he is a very pragmatic man and will ultimately becomes a proponent of AI when it starts to overwhelmingly live up to its promises. I would argue that calling AI overhyped is factually incorrect as the technology is so groundbreaking it will soon break our whole economic system and literally our biological reality and make us biologically immortal. Now you can obviously turn right back around and call this again overhyped but I would just say you're wrong and then we can then proceed to have a rigorous intellectual debate around it if you're intellectually honest but you would lose that.

No, I'm objectively right you're literally not using critical thinking and using your feelings not using any piece of data or actual structured argument to make a point. Sorry this is gonna sound rude but a lot of the reason why a lot of people are offended by AI models is because humans don't use logic when making their points their just vent their feelings and hope people agree with them and get mad when they don't like you're saying. But if you want we can go piece by piece and break down your argument and I'll prove I'm right. That's the whole point actualizing to deconstruct yourself and your ideas right? You use ad hominems and moving the goal posts. AI girlfriends was never the main point of my post, you're responding on a thread on an economic analysis of AI industry being in the state of a bubble and likely causing a crash. Even if I wanted to move my position back to defending AI companions I think I would probably do that successfully, feel free to make a specific claim around that industry and we can talk about it.

Selfishness is ranked above shame in the scale of consciousness. I know you meant it well but look at sneaky self-deception is, you're looking for sympathy and validation instead of taking action on the goal of being selfless and less selfish. What are you going to do in the next week and month to reduce your selfishness? Volunteer? Donate? What do you have that is valuable to give out to others? State it and we will hold you accountable to it @Spiritual Warrior

@VioletFlame See, you've proven that you not only lack critical thinking skills but are also antagonistic as well as lacking reading comprehension skills. I have plenty of conversations with real women, I literally run a podcast around it. Because I find it necessary to call you out on your lazy point on AI doesn't mean you should get so mad. Attack the point not the person.

Too long; didn't watch Gis od damn do I hate when people link videos without context. I will provide more value from my post than yours even though it's completely unrelated with this analysis of Palpatine from Star Wars I've been getting more into Star Wars these past few months and it's shocking how much political detail there is that I didn't catch on to as a kid. Incentives is a good thing to study as you can see after watching the video Palpatine has no good incentive just personal power and no redeeming moral qualities. It seems that Ali Khomenei is somewhat to Palpatine in terms of using secret police and violent authoritarianism to enforce his control over society. They are 62% similar according to Gemini.

If you considered satanism to be a low version of reality then your comment would fall as such in terms of the refusal to use your brain and just lash out in anger. @enchanted What were the pier's main points? I didn't watch it but according to Gemini the Iranian guy checkmated himself when Piers correctly pointed out that he can't criticize the regime because he lives under a violent authoritarian regime and the professor indeed refused to do so and changed the subject

Money is very spiritual. It's literally a means of accounting life energy. If you think you can reach a lot of people and impact their lives without money, business and marketing skills than I mean that seems like a fool's errand to me. I think of spiritual people that are very against money to just be spiritually bypassing. If you think of yourself above money then that's just another form of spiritual arrogance. Teal swan has hundreds of free videos on her channel that she's spent tens of thousands of dollars hiring an editing team and content team to put out and produce. That's not enough for you? She has to go out and make continuous free events without renumeration? Why? Why is expecting other entities to work for you, spend their limited time and suffer to do so for free? You can absolutely take advantage of vulnerable people and charge more than they're able to afford due to their desperation and through cult like manipulation but summarizing the mere act of a commercial transaction as such is delusional IMO.

For someone who prides themselves on human intelligence I would argue that this is a pretty low intelligence comment. Technology enhance our cognitive power, such as been its result since the dawn of time. You're writing because someone made tech that allowed us to transmit knowledge in written form as opposed to orally. People thought that would make us dumber. Not just random people. Socrates himself in fact. People thought the internet would ruin the world. Here you are making your arguments on it. An AI model can help you isolate the main ways in which the war in Iran will affect your local economy and how that will affect food prices and energy prices and how that will affect unemployment in your area. You can take this information and go talk to your city council and make an initiate out of it. Or you could turn off your internet access and try to become a world class economist in your bedroom by yourself. Good luck. Ironically 90% of the comments that accuse AI of ridding humanity of critical thinking lack much if any critical thinking. Who whoulda thunk.

A lot of graphic design and marketing jobs have already and will keep being lost due to AI being able to replicate template very effectively at this point. This guy explains all his past work as put into an AI model and now his company could just produce stuff that's 80% as good instantly. That was a year ago so god knows how much more powerful the models have gotten by now.

You don't understand what AI does or what being human is being about. You're taking about substance not structure. All these things are all possible in an AI powered society and probably even more so. Remember that people thought electricity was gonna ruin mankind due to being a demonic force and the amish still don't use it today. AI is about automating labor. The rest is up to you my friend.

From a childhood MMO I've played for years, Dofus.

Bro you have what's called an ideology. Campaigning against communication not being censored is wild mate, what is wrong with you.

This is beautiful, this will soon mark the end of human deaths in warfare. It's already so politically hard for any government with a semblance of a trust based society to go make their soldiers die for them but if from I believe in the next few year when these can be deployed as platoons for on ground situations like in Iran right now it will be mostly unconstitutional to send human soldiers to die in wars.

Also to keep it to a more grounded topic, reminder that 2.3 billion people on earth face moderate food insecurity and hundreds of million are in crisis level or worse. Industrialization has already freed up most of away from agricultural concerns and the coming waves of agricultural automation will I believe help alleviate global food insecurity.

@Leo Gura Flying cars are out now you can buy one today $200K. Not legal to fly over a city or airspace though

Did you read the article? OpenAI is going public soon so they're not expecting to hold another round of crossover investment. OpenAI is gonna go public right as it gets hit with defence contracts that Anthropic lost so I don't see how this is bearish for them or the AI industry.