LordFall

Sure, it's not a very useful way to think about it though. You can say you're a Tomato because we are also biological and part of reality. I don't see how that will help your dating experience and life overall though. Becoming post-rational includes intuition AND logic. It doesn't just throw logic out of the window, that's pre-rational.

I have so many debates with otherwise rational people over it, my dating group chat exploded last night over it, almost had to kick some poeple. According to Gemini he's very aspirational so men project their goals unto his life and thus you're attacking their identity by attacking him. Which of my takes do you disagree with?

Sure but 90% of people that try to do so don't transcend logic, they confuse delusions for useful insight. Do you know how many people in history have claimed to be prophets and given humanity some divine insights? Most of them are nonsensical, a few are legitimate and translate to real events in our shared reality.

Your neural network does not shut off when taking psychedelics lol, the actual opposite happens and it fires even more strongly and floods your brain with more dopamine while temporarily suppressingthe Default Mode Network (DMN) as well dramatically increasing overall functional connectivity across the rest of the brain. I already told you his phrasing is outrage marketing.

Fair enough. It also helps you make friends with women and scale your business so it's not solely a pickup strategy. You could also use these teachings to push a social cause/non-profit or for political reasons; leverage has many uses depending on your current goals.

I think you missunderstand spiral dynamics if you think avoiding values from other stages is the goal. Community is a stage blue value would you think that's worth avoiding? The goal is to integrate them as you move up the spiral and become a more developped human being.

Personally I'm a very logical person and although I'm very intuitive as an INTP, I filter it through my logic or I don't find it helpful in my life. You might have a different experience.

Yamanaka has already proved that epigenetics can reverse aging of individual cells. It can't be done with full humans yet but the code to making us biologically immortal has been there the whole time. I do believe it was nature's ultimate vision for humanity. What Bryan is doing is not cloning himself to harvest organs from a baby, I already debunked this. No cloned babies will be harmed. He is cloning his cells in a petri dish to implant back into his body. Turning off your neural network means brain death, I don't know what you're trying to say with that.

We are, that's why I tell people here the truth as I see it and don't give them useless platitudes. If I didn't like you guys and didn't respect Leo I wouldn't give out all my best secrets for free on the forum, I charge for this stuff usually. Which is why I appreciated your cold approach critique on my approach. I'm not here to stay in a safety bubble, I'm here to actualize my greatest potential and live out my wildest dreams. I never said that. I suggested a creating a cohesive system that connects different parts of your life to your goals and learning world class ideas from the best people in the world in their field. Humans are not perfect but if you can't learn social media game from Dan Bilzerian or Sartain idk who you're learning it from. You probably never will and your results will never be as scaled as they could be. I started a new daily content strategy and 5700 women have seen my Instagram content so far this month. That's not much in the grand scheme of things but I already occassionally get cold dms hitting on me so when the strategy is optimized it should by itself both run my business and my dating life. This is what I mean by connecting different parts of your life instead of spending 10 hours cold approaching for at best a couple dates.

I think you're projecting on one of these fascets my friend. Right so you call me nerdy but you want to learn God game to optimize your cold approach? Okay bro It's not that crazy, all the hottest women in the world are on Instagram. You spend $30 to get 10 of them to come to your event. If that blows your mind idk you'll freak out when you find out how computers work and the technology needed to power the forum you're using now.

I don't need to kill myself to achieve results in the world, that's a very strange train of thought. Men like Bryan Johnson are pushing the limits of biological, medicine and science overall to allow all of us to soon enough experience biological immortality.

I think you're stuck in unhealthy stage green if you're dismissing anyone that has flaws that don't fit your values and refusing to learn from the very real results that they have in their lives.

You can host an event this Sunday and film it and post it on social media. You can cold approach women in the next few days to populate the event as well as DM women on Instagram/run an ad. Why wait 5-10 years? You have wrong ideas about this stuff. I've asked you for truth, proof is truth materialized in reality. I would warn against a lack of sanity to deal with the existential dread and anxiety that the problems of reality induce in us.

A baby has a brain. No I am not a plant I am a human. Let's use actual science to talk about scientific breakthroughs otherwise I'm not sure exactly what we're discussing.

You have theoretical immortality not actual biological immortality. No that's not what that means, a clone with no consciousness is not really a human it's biological vessel much like a plant.

How so?

I understand, I think it's kinda neat to play around with different ideas in your mind. Unless you can manifest it in reality and find proof of it in the world then it's not much more useful than the homeless guy that was trying to teach me about astrophysics the other day. Becoming a famous millionnaire is in your control. Game is pitching yourself to women. If you have more to offer you will get more women. If you are a random guy there is a limit to the quality of experiences you can achieve and offer the women and overall people in your life. Depends what kind of women you're into though and what kind of life you're looking to build ultimately.

Tate is a rich manipulative multimillionnaire, that's like 12/10 in terms of getting laid. God game is being satisfied with life. If you want to use high levels of consciousness to get laid that just means using truth to find the most efficient ways possible to get laid while taking care of the women you sleep with at the same time. To me that's social circle game and social media game as that combines all the highlights of someone like Tate while removing all the downsides. I talk about it more here @vibv Why would it be beyond humanity? Do you have proof of this or this is an intuition you have?

So quite thicc then I think what you're pointing towards is post scarcity and mankind conquering the universe

Less than ever with AI being able to do the heavy lifting for us though. Still helps in deconstructing complex topics though but before there were many jobs that low IQ people couldn't do for complexity based reasons.

Gandhi accomplished a lot but part of the crowd that fell for anti hedonism as a cope for rejecting healthy sexuality and his repression lead to strange actions later in his life like sleeping naked with underaged girls in his family to test his willpower lol. Just go get laid bro it's not that deep. Who was involved: The primary participants were his grandniece, Manu Gandhi (who was approximately 17–19 years old at the time), and Abha Gandhi (his grandnephew's wife, around 18–19 years old). His personal physician, Dr. Sushila Nayar, also participated in earlier variations of these practices. What the experiment was: Gandhi had taken a vow of celibacy in 1906. Decades later, to test whether he had completely eradicated sexual desire and reached spiritual purity, he began sharing a bed unclothed with these young women. No Allegations of Sexual Violence: Historical records and personal diaries kept by the women themselves (such as Manu Gandhi's diary, published as Bapu – My Mother) confirm these arrangements took place, but none of the women recorded any physical advance, overt sexual contact, or abuse.

You're falling for manufactured outrage for free marketing my friend. Although if it was a human body with no consciousness I don't see the issue, perhaps we'll get to that point soon enough.

How thicc are those layers though? That's the most important question for a serious intellect

I think some of these guys indeed have blindspots that we should take into consideration but listening to them in long form podcasts and learning from their strongsuits I would highly recommend. Can you share more of your own dating journey and your results? I think perhaps you are over emphasizing the negatives, I'm curious where that comes from. Well you use hosting events as part of your strategy, to raise your status and the women you have access to. If you do it the right way you'll get paid for it as well so it's a great skillset to learn. You shouldn't be used by women it should be a value exchange that enhances both of your lives. If you do it without strategy then yes you can spend thousands of dollars and not accomplish much.

Yes he teaches a form of advanced game that includes cold approach as a means of fueling your circle but not as a core philosophy like some pickup teachers have. Not thousands you can usually get away with dming a couple hundred, it's quite easy and you get to meet the hottest women in your city on your terms this way. I've been consistently using this method to host my own events for the past few years. https://www.instagram.com/p/Cq3Ys7vvAAa/ I think it's helpful to have a base of cold approach before you get into social circle game so you understand escalation otherwise you'll just host events and never get laid but once you do this is the way to 5x the caliber of the women you have access to. If you solely master cold approach you'll hit a point like @Zenterus where your ability to seduce women is quite strong but the systems of your life are not matching your level of success in that area.