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That's super interesting, did you guys talk about it afterwards in depth? What came up for her in that moment? Seems common from what I've researched about polyamory. Common grievances with open relationships on the women's side is they underestimate the intensity of the emotions that come with it and the men regret open up a relationship because they can't get laid while their woman starts sleeping with other men left and right lol

A lot of women want to have them too but they are too shy or just don't know how to make it happen. Some dating coaches like RSD Luke and Michael Sartain base part of their game on getting a bisexual girlfriend and having regular threesomes. I wanna get to that level, seems like a very fun life. Regular polyamorous couples do it as well but because they don't understand game I think it'll be much less often and with less attractive women. When you know game and are in a polyamorous relationship I think a whole new world of dating options open themselves up to you.

I'll let you know in the next few months, should be able to have a threesome by then and maybe even start a throuple. Last time I tried was when I was doing the group dinners and podcasts. I've never had a threesome yet, it's been on my bucketlist for a while. Tried to link 2 of my fuck buddies together a few years ago to make it happen but I stopped seeing one of them before I could make it happen.

Do you find this user to be adding value to your life? You are adding value to his by entertaining his points, giving people free value when they don't offer it back is how you are dragged down into the mud by people that don't make conversations higher level. I see that we are going for the pubic forum angle and back to looksmaxxing and grooming strategies. Personally I like to keep a low vegetation so that the tree has room to shine and leave the crowd in anticipation of the festivities.

Don't respond to low quality perspectives, it only validates them and makes you lose frame. Insults are not a valid perspective to share in a debate, you should not even respond. Be at the cause and not the effect.

I think having strong core values that you stick to is what invites the right kind of women into your life. I hosted a podcast with hot girls talking about their dating and sex life and everyone enjoyed it. I never apologized for my beliefs and stuck true to my identity throughout and some women shit tested me but I'm pretty comfortable with myself and I know what I want so it rarely manages to affect me. I remember two particular incidents while we were throwing events in Kelowna. We host group dinners and invite girls we've never met so they naturally ask us about ourselves and our dating lives. I usually answer exactly like I do here that I want 5 wives and am polyamorous. I've had to learn to calibrate saying this as it is not part of social norms so one time at a wine tour the girls that kind of annoyed at it and started flirting with the guy pouring the wine for us and that was awkward for a few minutes but not too bad. One of the following nights I did it in more of a flirty way and turned it back on them like wait you don't like women? That's weird! I think Millie here likes you though and the girl I mentioned started blushing and it was almost a threesome vibe for a while. I haven't gotten to that point yet but each time I talk about marrying multiple women in front of multiple women it acts as a unstated frame that if it came down to it I would fuck them all so I've found it either gets flirty or awkward real fast lol

Up is where you want to go, your desired life, life purpose and infinite possibilities! You don't have to betray your values to sleep with many women, it's a false dichotomy setup by people that aren't in an abundance mindset and are trapped in society's default dating paradigm.

That's sweet did you get girls dming you from it? If you manage to hit strong numbers on multiple reels then you'll become a local celebrity and can leverage it for your business and life purpose endeavours as well.

Concepts is how we turn bland conversing into masterful and enriching dialogue that leaves both parties feeling like they learned something new. A good guy can have a fun, varied and thrilling sex life, why are we putting ourselves into a corner here?

I'm already quite enlightened lol, you're the one that needs more concepts grandpa!

I would deconstruct the urge. What specifically calls you towards it? Weed is mostly a shortcut to inner calmness due to flooding your brain with dopamine. If you meditate a lot you can find similar peace but it'll just be way harder. I also struggle with a weed addiction and I go on and off by the week. You're not missing out on too much, it's nice but is mostly a coping mechanism.

You don't need to go full MGTOW to be happy lol. Why not work on yourself and solve your core neediness and codependency and in the next 6 months find an awesome girlfriend? Are you on dating apps now?

True on the crypto one, it's not September yet it could still go up a bit but much higher is gonna be a hard hill to climb. I think overall my macroanalysis was mostly correct. I think the K shaped economy one most of all and there will probably be a stock market correction but enterprise and government AI contracts will boom and flourish.

I really like this saying, I think it's quite deep and teaches us a lot about human nature. I don't think it's fundamentally true though. I think psychology goes beyond sex and a lot of men and women live their lives disconnected from their libido and thus life force and don't live their lives based on sex. If we combine sex, companionship, love, identity and power then I think we have a complete reduction of human existence into 5 main concepts though. Love and companionship are two facets of a same concept and identity completes the psychological depth that the adage is pointing to. How do you interpret it?

That's not helpful to actually getting results in someone's dating life. I recommend RSD Luke and his social game frameworks, I've personally gotten laid many times from it and also many thousands of dollars from the event hosting tips I learned from him and Michael Sartain.

@gengar I won't be editing my comment. If you post extreme tier-lists in a heated thread—satire or not—you own the fallout. Poe’s Law exists for a reason: on a forum where people unironically champion fundamentalist regimes, satire is indistinguishable from genuine dogma until stated otherwise. Since you want a "proper historical analysis," here is why your defense of institutional Islam's role in science still falls apart: The "Theology vs. Science" Delusion: You claim Ibn Sina and Al-Razi were persecuted for "theology, not science." In medieval Islam, natural philosophy and theology were inseparable. When Al-Ghazali wrote The Incoherence of the Philosophers, he explicitly attacked physical cause-and-effect itself (arguing cotton burns because Allah wills it, not due to heat). Orthodoxy crippled empirical science at its root. Imperial Logistics not equalling Religious Validation: You credit Islam for libraries and trade networks. Every expanding empire builds infrastructure, medicine, and trade out of geopolitical necessity. Crediting the religion of Islam for the Golden Age simply because it happened inside an empire is like crediting the Roman Gods for the aqueducts. The Mu'tazilite Exception Proves the Rule: The rationalist Mu'tazilite period was a brief 9th-century anomaly enforced by state inquisitions (Mihna). As soon as political power shifted, Ash'arite orthodoxy took over, shut down independent reasoning (Ijtihad), and locked the door for centuries. Respect for your personal journey of reasoning your way out of the religion—that takes real intellectual courage. But scientific progress occurred in friction with Islamic orthodoxy, not as its byproduct.

I think it's very predictable that a thread on sex would trigger a lot of shadow from the members of a mostly stage green forum. Both because stage green is more sensitive to derogatory language and wants to include everyone but also because it tends to want to run away from the more direct evaluation and burden of competence that stage orange brings. Let's not make it a man vs woman thing, women talk about sex just as crudely as men if not more. You can see it for yourself on the sex subreddit or on the female dating strategies subreddit or on the twoxchromosone subreddit. Talking about which kind of partners you prefer is a sensitive subject but that's also the difference between talking in generalities vs addressing someone's life specifically. Saying you don't like one kind of partner as a stated presence for your own sex life is different than an overweight user asking for dating help and someone saying sorry you are fat, fat people aren't attractive so we can't help you. That would be a demonstrably false statement since plenty of people date overweight partners and BBW porn is a very thriving community. On the reverse, telling someone that they should workout and get in shape to ameliorate their dating life is a completely different line of discussion. Let's be cognizant of what's being said here and not be triggered snowflakes for the sake of it. @Inliytened1 has already apologized for his phrasing when commenting about some humans he's not particularly into but his intent in making this thread is clearly just to discuss sexuality openly to contrast with the members of this forum who seem to be terrified of it; which is why I replied openly and honesty to it.

My favorite places I've had sex are a park in the middle of Calgary there is a river and a park called Prince Island and me and my ex were chilling drinking by the river and as it got dark we had sex under the moonlight. It was really not that comfortable but the adrenaline made it fun. Also I had a FWB that gave me head in a alley in downtown Toronto after we had a few drinks at a bar downtown, that was thrilling too. @aurum I think discussing sex is particularly appropriate for in a dating section.

Go to events that have the type of things you're into or host them yourself. There are philosophy meetups in most big cities. Or you can start a brand around the topic that you like and meet people globally that way.

Got it. Well if that works for you then more power to you man. You've managed to date and sleep with attractive women with this mindset?

I like the idea of moving past competition and competence and being at peace with the world. I think it can only come after actually succeeding at those things though otherwise your peace is not true and it will be disturbed by the many other entities in life that are still competing and are now more competent than you because you decided to take it easy. Big difference in being in your legacy phase and just trying to skip the burden of competence because competition is too hard and you'd rather see yourself as already perfect(which is spiritual bypassing) and ignore the needs of the marketplace.

You don't actually have to watch videos to engage with the point in them. You can ask Gemini to watch youtube videos and highlight the main points in the video and even rank it's accuracy in % so you can evaluate how bias the content creator is or what main points the people that post them resonate with and thus have a discussion with the person around it with 2 mins of research instead of watching these long ass videos that content creators make purposefully long to get more money out of adsense. @Rafael Thundercat I like your point. I think identifying the root causes of your problems in life is very important but people are quick to form an identity out of their diagnosis as opposed to actually focusing on fixing the symptomps and just living a fun and aligned life. Diagnosis like Bipolar and BPD are where I've seen people internalize this and live our their lives as forever dysfunctional people instead of just learning from the psychiatric literature and finding their own ways to solve their inner wounds as ultimately you and the psychiatric systems have very different core incentives and often times you getting better without their pharmaceuticals is bad for their career and profit margins to use an example common in the west.

Right but vulnerability comes AFTER offering value and is not the foundation of the relationship; we agree on that right? If you go to a club or meet a woman at an event, you're not gonna lead with "hey Sarah life has been really hard for me lately and my career is stressful, can we date so I feel better? " You must first have a way to meet high value beautiful women and then attract them and start dating them and THEN your vulnerability and openness will add value in the relationship as she'll be able to connect with you further instead of being a stoic masculine robot that has no emotions. Very common for men especially in stage green to want to skip this step since they demonize the burden of competence that comes with stage orange and then wonder why they can't attract high quality women.

Just be careful with not removing the burden of competence in dating and in being attractive as a man. Pure honesty and vulnerability without value adding qualities is not a great partner, it's like a cry baby that manipulates and gaslight women for sex. Pity sex is a concept for a reason, it's a very sad way to get laid. Become an awesome and powerful man that makes women's lives better. @Ramanujan Don't use your MBTI as an excuse not to take action. I'm an INTP and 90% of INTP Men are antisocial without much social calibration. I used our Ti and Ne functions to map our the social world and create my own social events without needing to bend to society's frame. You can succeed with whatever type you are to create your own personal dream dating life. It starts by not being a victim and empowering yourself to first open your mind to the possibility of abundance that seems to terrify most men if they even believe in the concept. Can you picture yourself dating one extremely beautiful and amazing woman that loves you? What about many of them that are competing to date you? What about dating them all at the same time? Picture it and go for it if it appeals to you, just don't write excuses about why it's not possible for you its cringe for me to read.

Yes exactly I think with divine knowledge it would be very easy to predict what some hairless apes will do given X, Y and Z situations. Even AI will be able to do it soon so a divine intelligence knows absolutely everything thats gonna happen and thus fully knows itself. It can paradoxically still infinitely explore itself though like there are infinite numbers between 1 and 2 so perhaps God still has surprises I don't know. I like to think that God is laughing alongside me when funny stuff happens in life but perhaps that's just my human projection.