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I never said the corporate women are super conscious, I said they have a high level skillset that can be used towards your cause and life purpose. I don't know if I agree I think a lot of "high consciousness" is spiritual bypassing since your consciousness exists only in your head and not in the real world. If someone was truly a master at stage yellow they could actualize their ideas from understanding which parts of society is gonna give them friction and they would have the skillset from stage orange to produce real tangible value that other people value.

I mean you literally said that you gave up on relationships(maybe temporarily) to focus more on platonic friendships. That's great and all but you can't say you've succeeded at your pickup journey then. You say you're a software engineer, that's cool but that's nothing to do with creating your own systems. If you date a corporate woman you can't really bring her into your life you can at best each have your jobs and go home at the end of the day and comfort eachother before you go back to work the next day. To me that's not having transcended stage orange or perhaps you can say that's not having integrated stage yellow which has to do with making the systems of our reality work for you and not against you like Tier 1 stages are forced to do.

I mean Valach doesn't seem to understand the concepts he's using and makes false equivalencies. As I've said before he thinks he has ended a journey when I've repeatedly pointed out to him the flaws in his perspective. If he's not open to feedback there's nothing to learn. I've broken down his perspective pretty accurately I think. He thinks that giving up on materialistic goals is integrating stage orange and he's now a wise and healthy stage green/yellow. I've said before multiple times in many how this is provably coping. If you have integrated stage orange then you can produce results in the systems of society that we have. If you can't but now "don't value" those results and give up on the goals that you had previously, to me to not repeat the word coping that's delusional or insanity. I've seen this process happen to many smart people, he sounds like a smart guy. Intelligence is just the start to really master your life and this reality though. @Natasha Tori Maru Also that's incorrect. It depends on which version you use but how Ken Wilber phrases it is literally word for word transcend and include.

In what way do you disagree with what I'm saying? Do you talk to corporate women often? That's vast umbrella but for example but I've met a few that are product managers and have worked at fortune 500 companies. They are very smart and interesting women who are fascinating to talk with. They understand how to handle the pressures of life and manage teams of people to bring projects/products and turn ideas and concepts into real things that affect the lives of a lot of people. If you find a hot one that's into you that would make a great girlfriend. Be careful judging someone that's perhaps ahead of you in life in a key area. Comparing them to a heroin addict is a wild statement.

I hope you reflect on our conversations and realize you still have much further to go in your journey my friend. I'm here anytime if you're open for feedback.

Why not? A stage yellow person does not judge people for where they are at, they understand how human beings develop and the different mental blocks and limitations that each stage has and how to help those people transcend them and thus raise their consciousness. Perhaps that's going into Turquoise which identifies with each human.

What do you mean? Why is it an addiction, if you've completed your pickup journey then you are dating/married to your dream woman or women. Be careful of pretending to have transcended stage orange when your ego just realized that this shit was hard and it's much easier to now blame capitalism and shallowness for your lack of success than actually get success. Once you have mastered stage orange and have values centered around positive sum games from stage green and understand how the systems of the world works from stage yellow than you can become a powerful agent of change. Before that you're mostly inconsequential as an individual.

Not if you have a way better plan for her So what? People are not in one stage they are multifaceted beings. Because you're a stage yellow leader(hopefully) you'll have a greater purpose than whatever corporate job she's working. Because she's a corporate girl she's gonna have a skillset that she can use on your life purpose. Because you have an integrated stage orange you are successful at business and know how to bring a vision to life and monetize it. Once that's underway you can help her also work on her life purpose away from yours. You can then change the world together and live a great life instead of her wasting away in a 9-5 that doesn't accomplish much. This only works if you're actually the man with his life setup properly. If you're coping on having integrated stage orange and being in stage yellow then you'd be lucky to attracted a hot corporate girl and if you do she's probably gonna have the the frame in the relationship and slowly lose attraction to you because you don't bring much to the table.

It's a good post and reminder that anyone can find a relationship, incels are ironicaly coping by thinking they can't. The idea is to get a phenomenal girlfriend though And if you're crazy like me many girlfriends

Take action. Don't worry about theory before you take action. I like maximizing status and coming up with complicated plans but that comes after you have a baseline of action and results with women so you can see if you need to calibrate or not. Have you cold approached before? If not start with this. Do you know friends that are into cold approach or would be down to try with you? Second best step is to get on dating apps and optimize your profile. You will not get many matches at first but with an optimized profile and tinder platinum + boosts, it's very realistic to go on 1-2 dates a week from that. When you can go on dates continuously from either cold approach and dating apps you have a great question to ask yourself which is am I satisfied with the women I can meet or do I need to significantly raise my status to attract hotter/more niche women? If so we can talk about that then. Your baseline is cold approach because it's the most straightforward see hot girl -> talk to hot girl. Try it and report back. You got this champ I have a video on how I think you should see your overall dating strategy as a man. If you're overwhelmed it will help streamline what self-development has to do with dating but what I said in this post is as simple as I can make it > What feels strange—and honestly a bit scary—is realizing how different my self-image can be from my actual situation. Sometimes it makes me wonder whether I’ve been living more in my imagination than in reality. 100% bro everyone has this. Most men think they can attract women they're attracted to. Then they try and it doesn't work and they get traumatized and start coping in various ways or even WORST they never try. > I am very serious with woman and trying to impress them Awesome if you're very serious you will surely try cold approaching tomorrow or in the next few days and report back your results. Approach at least 10 women. If you can’t make yourself do it tell us about that as well and what came up in your mind. Excited to hear about your journey!

I totally disagree. Your non-hot girlfriend is gonna say you don't find me attractive? Be offended and be right that you're trying to change her. Your hot corporate girl is gonna be charmed and positively surprised that you already have all the answers to her existential questions because you've been studying spiral dynamics and non-duality and think that she's dating a super human and love you even more.

Start today and build yourself up along the way.

To a point. A 400 lbs woman can be beautiful to someone. If you say you can attract beautiful women and you can only attract obese women I'd say you're coping and delusional and objectively are bad at attracting women. If you want to call that a red pill point that's just silly. Try more corporate/finance/crypto events. There are a lot of hot women there that are very smart. Consciousness can be learned if she respects you. Make some money start a homestead and vision complete.

That's fair yes most men and women suck at sex and intimacy. There are books on it. I like Tantric sex myself that's some cool stuff you combine meditation and sex.

It's not really about the numbers it's about iterating on feedback and pattern recognition. Doing it with wingmen and coaches help a lot because they can easily spot something you're doing wrong that could take you hundreds of approaches to figure out.

In the first year of dating couples have sex on average more than 2x a week. After 5 years it drops to less than once a week. 25% of divorces are linked to lack of intimacy in a marriage. This is a lot of people man and women. Well a lot of low consciousness people are just slaves to public consensus so if you have a lot of status you basically override their herd opinions anyway so I think being powerful, abundant and high consciousness helps a lot in that area. Not at all. I view things in may different perspectives. I asked you a question and you avoided answering it. You're the one projecting ideologies unto me, I mostly look at what I can observe. I'm actually a top scientist Of course. Women love women so it'll be really fun type of relationship to be in. Fair enough, I would try to at least experiment and get out of your comfort zone before settling though!

Very good I think you should get 3 girlfriends it’s a good number. You can get some variety in your own household and never be bored as well. Can you attract hot women? Or do you have do rationalize it and find excuses as to why you can’t? Usually the most high consciousness and spiritual thing is just the truth.

You need a genius hottie that's the goated status for women. You're not into black queens? Bro... I didn't expect this from you

Feel free to elaborate but what is more free than abundant resources and ability to connect with other humans as you desire? I would say like 15 dates, maybe 8 different women I got laid with and 3 FWBs I had each for a few months.

I'm not trolling him and you're spiritually bypassing and being lazy by commenting on stuff without even looking on his profile to see context. He literally explained his whole life in another thread and being suicidal due to not being able to get laid. Good job projecting though.

Why is it retarded? Did you find cool women you liked to work on your life purpose with you? If you did you would probably have sex with them? Why is sex the problem? Lack of alignment and cohesion in the systems of your life was probably the issue more than the sex. Sex is really a mild activity at the end of the day, no matter how freaky you make it. It's all about what's around it. Chaotic entanglements and aligned cohesion are two wildly different concepts.

Lmao that was wild. I mean we kinda live in those times. Sex, drugs and politics are as wild as they've ever been. Onlyfans is like a new sexual revolution. Pickup and online business is the same thing for men. Earned freedom.

@Zenterus I appreciate you sharing my man. It is a sincere inquiry, plenty of people give advice and most of it is untested opinions and coping. Sharing our authentic journeys, struggles and victories is how we can have serious discussions and growth together in my opinion. Your journey makes sense. I would say I'm at the middle of the journey. I'm an INTP and I've attracted women through just being myself a normal guy but that didn't really get me the quality of women I wanted nor the lifestyle. I fundamentally identify with my ideas and thinking processes and as I've tried and refined many ideas in my 20s I realized that I'm on the right track but lack the expertise and experience to create the vision I really want. I can't fully feel good about myself until I actualize that potential. At 31 I'm just getting to the point where the ideas are working, my status is growing and the hottest women in my life are attracted to me so I don't see myself stopping this quest anytime soon thus why I'm not considering polyamory and multiple wives. It seems like a logical conclusion to my path. I see it as a stage yellow pursuit because the further I go the more dots connect. The models I invite to my events are struggling with their careers so I can start an influencer agency to help them. The venue owners I connect with are struggling with hosting and marketing their own events so me figuring out content automation and eventually AI workflows to help them. I'm not meeting musicians and producers that wanna meet with me. The possibilities seem to be endless and especially with my levelling up framework it's definitely intoxicating. Thus my comment on your post on not seeing your love for social pursuits to necessarily be an impediment to your overall growth. When I see diminishing returns I'll revaluate but I seem to just be hitting the exponential.

God saw everything that he had made, and behold, it was very good.

I agree I think everyone should create their own business and brand. Even in a world with AI ubi that gives everyone on earth $3000/month to live I think it'll just lead to people that understand economies of scale being billionaires and trillionaires and enjoying all the luxury and scarce goods and experiences.