LordFall

Got it. If dating is not an important part of your life then yeah I think spending time on it is not that useful. For me, it unlocked incredible adventures, great FWBs, and real abundance that I wouldn't trade for anything. A lot of times when I have conversations with other people it seems like their scarcity impacts their judgement in very obvious ways and they come to conclusions that are obviously false from the perspective of someone that's had more sex and dating experience.

The idea is to get guiding principles for it, not to follow it A to Z. There is a right or wrong to it, that's the idea. Every guy thinks he can get women; very few can do it consistently. Some principles work consistently no matter which man uses them. Push-pull for example, being cocky funny, having good logistics, building a cool social circle with attractive women or getting big on social media, etc.

Pickup artists rarely rely on looksmaxxing, they rely on charisma, boldness and understanding social dynamics to a high enough level that you can subvert expectations in a calibrated way to end up charming as a result. Two dating coaches that come to mind are RSD Todd and Michael Sartain that basically boil down all of fashion for men as "wear black jeans and a black t-shirt".

@Olaf That reminds me of Thai women. They are known to cut off the penis of cheating partners. Thailand has had world-leading expertise in penile reconstruction surgery from the 1980s to today. Careful boys!

Here is a scene I just wrote. As I've talked about one of the main narratives of the story will be exploring how magic affects the scientific revolution of the early modern period. One of the concepts that I wanna write into the narrative are basically magic crystals that store massive amounts of energy. Think somehow a crystal that's even more advanced than the batteries we have today. The idea is to create insane levels of technology for the post conquest era that aren't even possible in our world today and that will turn the world from classic 17th century to high fantasy pretty quickly. One of my master creations is the Dreadnought ships, inspired by Imperial Star Destroyers This project will be ready about halfway through the show and comes about from the marriage of Nerathar to his 3rd wife, who is based on a real historical noble lady: Amalia van Nassau-Dietz They will meet in 1672 when historically the Dutch Republic was assaulted on all sides by the French and the English that ended up in a disaster year known as Rampjaar in Dutch history. The Dutch were the #1 ship builders in the world at that time and this conflict will lead Nerathar to stumble upon their kingdom in the middle of a siege, help save them, bargain for a marriage alliance with Amalia, take over their shipyards and their naval fleet and eventually both build this flying armada as well as conquer the Royal Navy and England entirely through naval and aerial dominance. I don't know if I like this colored manga style yet, I'm playing around with it. Might release both a black and white manga and a color one since it does make the characters come to life quite well.

Usually you should mostly keep theory and debriefs for after game sessions, not during. It indeed ruins your flow. As you progress through your game journey it's normal to have more thoughts around it and not just be a wild man talking to every woman he sees. Sometimes there is value to a spray and pray method and seeing what sticks but once you've learned what you need to from that then you can start to build a more complex strategy around your dating life.

Got it, in that case I agree with much of your perspective. I think it's such a shame the hold that sexual shame has on society. There are valid reasons why that was the case historically and even today being a max hedonist has it's drawbacks but it still swings too far into the shame polarity IMO. When you study frame control you start seeing very clearly why a lot of religions, cultures and governments have defaulted to it. When you got people by the balls basically literally, it's way easier to get them to comply to your will in all kinds of other ways. It's also great marketing, if the church can get you to think about them every time you touch your dick or pussy then they'll stay imprinted deep in your psyche for the rest of your existence.

That's lame. The best characters are unarguably Vader or the female villains. Obi-Wan, I could see. People that love Master Yoda have not thought about the plot enough, that guy is an imbecile that caused a lot of the negative elements of the plot. That's pretty cool. I liked that he decided to showcase works from other artists as well, it's a good indication of the potential staying power it's gonna have. I hope they will have props from the movies to show how they managed to make it come to life. The video only showed stuff that seems made for the museum and not the original movie props. The force awakens is not bad, that's the only one I've watched from the Disney movies. I'll watch episode 8 and 9 in the next couple months and update this thread with my thoughts. Next on my list is watching The Acolyte episode 1!

I think you're overemphasizing negative behaviour and discounting the value that FWB relationships have for both parties. Why this cynical take? Have you had women blow up on you for leading them on or are you internalizing the anti-sex sentiment that's common on the internet lately? My FWBs pretty much all thanked me for the time we had together except 1. She didn't like me telling her I wanted to keep seeing other women on top of her but that one also proves my point. You can have your cake and eat it too. I've never had to lie to women to sleep with them, nor to keep them.

I just don't agree with this at all. I think the female dating agenda leaking through your thoughts makes it not good advice for any man reading them. We're gonna have to be more specific to get to the truth of the matter. Every time I made myself more attractive and this led to more casual sex, it also led to women wanting to date me more seriously. Cold approach made me more social and less anxious with women and during the times I was doing it the most, I got two separate long term relationships out of it. Where I'm usually more in my head and anxious around women, I was talking to so many of them that I was able to be more present and direct with women in a platonic social setting and it led to them making moves on me both times. Learning photography and social media led me to tons of hookups through dating apps and having a strong Instagram brand has ended up in me meeting a lot of high quality women and building social circles through which I now have female friends. I went on a date with a really sexy model last year that I don't think I would've been able to get out without this. I don't workout but I also think that if you got more fit you would in general increase your odds of casual sex and also getting a long term relationship if that was your goal. The female dating strategy and the male one are a bit conflicting in that regard where a woman wants her desired males to not be that attractive to other women since that increases her competition and makes her have to expend more energy to keep that male if he's willing to be monogamous at all. There were some really cool girls that seemed to want to date me monogamously but I'm now on a quest towards being able to date 5 women at the same time. That's the last quest the average woman wants her male crushes to embark on lol. When I had less options in my early 20s I would've loved to date one of them but now that thought doesn't really satisfy me anymore.

@Xonas Pitfall Okay when phrased like that, I mostly agree. I think lying to get laid is a fundamentally a scarcity based move and you can be purely honest and get tons of sex.

Really cool video I wasn't that familiar with Riot Forge before. It was a division of Riot Games that existed for 5 years from 2019-2024 that published 6 games made through indie studios. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riot_Forge The endeavor was ultimately considered a failure since 5 of the single player games probably didn't recoup their cost and overall didn't really make a splash compared to the current 5 live service titles: League of Legends, Valorant, Wild Rift (LoL mobile), Teamfight Tactics and Legends of Runeterra. Such great knowledge for me to study this debacle as it highlights the importance of product market fit. The games were all rated quite well, they just didn't make sense for a company the size of Riot Games. It's great for me to understand how that works since I'm looking to surpass them one day. What they've accomplished alongside Epic Games with Fortnite and more story-based companies like LucasFilm with Star Wars are my current goal in terms of multimedia empires.

It's important to understand the deeper mechanisms at play in attraction and not just the surface level tactics. Some dating coaches talk about never simping or appearing high value. I like the definition of simping that says operating in a framework where you're getting less value than you're giving out in a relationship with a woman. So that could be simping for IG models that don't acknowledge your existence, being the beta orbiter that does a ton of favors for a girl that doesn't do much for you, or even these dynamics can exist in a toxic one-sided marriage. The greater lesson is to understand social dynamics and awareness of the world so you can recognize when you're taken advantage of. When your "simping" is reciprocated, that's not a bad thing that's called an awesome relationship. It's also why it's important to offer a lot of value to others. People that simp usually don't offer much and think their interest in women is gonna be enough.

@Xonas Pitfall What both of you said leads to casual sex being good for women though. How else are you supposed to get to know yourself and what you like in a partner? Surely you're not implying that marrying the first guy they date is the right option? Finding cool guys to have FWB situations and explore what they like in a relationship and sexually seems like the best option. One of my FWBs basically broke up with me a few months into us seeing each other because she got a boyfriend and wanted to see how things go. I think they dated long term and are perhaps still together. About 1 week before this happened she came to my place, brought me a bubble tea, blew me until I came in her mouth and then went to her graphic design class. You see how both of your perspectives are sex negative and lack an abundance mindset? I think I probably helped this girl a bit find her boyfriend by hanging out with her for months so she could tell which characteristics she liked in a man and when she found one that more closely aligned with her she went for it. We were not compatible people for a long term relationship but we could hangout casually and have a good time. I was also happy for her, I can find women to date pretty easily so I wasn't butthurt over her leaving. Both parties were enriched by the experience.

@Emerald Thanks for sharing, you touched on some good points here. That's why I believe in social circle game so strongly. If a man develops a community around his interest that has women in it, his dating life will be pretty much taken care of for the next 20 years. Casual sex is a concept that should be understood separately from this and can work in tandem or separately from the social circle strategy. I think it's important to separate the gimmicks and game tactics from deep self-development. Both have their importance but if you build your identity around gimmicks then you will turn off developed women that have been there done that. Tactics are very important if you want to get laid though, it will make the difference on a 5 year window between sleeping with dozens of women and 1-2, with no bearing on your ability to find a long term partner. So might as well learn them if you want to get laid. An example of a tactic would be to schedule dates near your place so you can invite them over. I do believe it's a good move to try to sleep with a woman as early as you can but also not to be pushy if she wants to wait longer. One of my favorite FWBs I've had made me wait 7 dates to fuck. Each time we got a bit further and on the 7th time I told her I felt like I was wasting my time and I did like hanging out with her but I'm a sexual being and if she's not looking for that then it's best we go our separate ways. She respected the honesty and we fucked that night.

Yes. A lack of calibration and crossing people's boundaries is what I would be concerned about. Sexual game is like a flame, everybody loves it when it's done properly and it adds mystique and warmth to your character but as soon as it's not you burn yourself and others.

Working in cybersecurity is pretty closely related to law enforcement. The goal is to increase the stability and order of a society. I think that's a noble goal. Nothing great comes from anarchy. It's something I'm gonna study myself since I'm launching some websites and apps for creatives that can be targeted by hackers. It's also one of the most future proof tech skill there is so you can always have it in your back pocket and combine it with another interest of yours to create a more cohesive life purpose.

Be careful with going too far down that route but a man that is comfortable with his sexuality and can turn on his sensual side in a calibrated way is very attractive to everyone as most people are indeed repressed.

Can you share specific examples? It's hard to talk in generalities. What I will say is that there is a general sequence that pickup teaches you to sleep with women. If you deviate from this sequence you will get worse results. The obvious rebuttal to that is you don't want to sleep with random women that you don't care about, being yourself authentically will get you the right woman! I think it sort of maybe works like that but it's really not that simple. It's also not about hollowing yourself out more like presenting a socially appropriate front to meet people and then as you get to know people better you get less filtered. I had this exact conversation with the guy I used to throw events with as he ran into a similar issue. There is a formula to get laid with women often and it's basically: don't talk about anything deep apart from in passing and just tease her, banter and make it more man to woman frame like talk more slowly, strong eye contact, etc. When I talk to people naturally I like to talk about deep subjects, speculate about the future and be really nerdy. When I do that I don't get laid. I have interesting conversations and girls say wow you're cool and then idk not much happens. If I censor most of it and act funny and tease them and escalate then we fuck. I am working to mix both but it's not easy that's for sure. Also it's not even really sure that that's a good strategy, I think attracting a wide variety of women then selecting the ones you like is the best strategy. The other strategy is basically saying don't have a strategy and hope for the best!

@Emerald That's where I'm gonna have to draw the line and where your analogy falls apart. Learning social skills is not cheapening your character. It just helps you sell your character. Some dudes use being a smooth talker to distract others and themselves from the fact that they have nothing to offer. That does not equate to recommending people not to learn smooth talking. A woman generally does not want a man to become drastically more attractive, that makes him harder to keep. It's hard for women to give unbiased advice in that regard, especially without lived experience of having to attract women.

What is confirmed? That pickup gets you laid? I've confirmed it bro, don't worry.

@Emerald I hope you understand why men are drawn to becoming Chad. What you said is basically the cause of the dating industry in a nutshell. A dude wondering why his dating life is not working and then women around him saying "you're perfect the way you are, don't change a thing. I wouldn't date you though but some girl will!" What's great about game and pickup is they produce expected results. Perhaps, to use your analogy, it teaches a regular man how to turn his outer shell into cotton candy instead of being the average boring or complaining Joe. Some dudes take it too far and become entirely unrelatable in the process but for most men, it simply makes them more dynamic and attractive.

Yes best foot forward first then authentically addressing and voicing issues as they come up throughout the relationship is the move.

I think it's overrated in that people think that being honest and transparent is gonna be a huge step in the right direction for them. It sort of is but the reason that society teaches us to bottle up our feelings is that life is hard and complaining about that is not gonna change it. I think offering value is they key to most of the dating problems in society and value comes from solving hard problems so it can't really be easy. Thus offering value is an honest sign of high competence and being an asset to someone's life. If you aren't an asset to other people's lives why is being honest and authentic gonna change that fact? On the other hand being able to accept our limitations and not be delusional or falsely represent ourselves to others is also important.

Right but the whole economy is based on business so it seems like a pretty pivotal thing to get right. It's actually the precise reason a lot of corporate people are gonna lost their jobs in the next 5 years, because they are so far removed from the feedback loop of the real economy. So many people in middle management appear like they are doing stuff but are actually either useless or harmful to the businesses that employ them. This thread in the off topic section is a great example for the gaming industry but this corporate gloating effect is present in all industries. I see universities taking on a new form like 20 years from now they'll probably be free and be more like a community and research hub rather than a mandatory step in most people's lives. Whenever I talk to college student and they tell me about how busy they are with assignments or like midterms I feel like a voluntary slave is complaining to me about their life. If they worked that hard on their own business they would be financially independent by the time they graduated! Business has way less hand holding and is more stressful, it's not for everyone but I think every university student should try starting one in their gap year before they pay a lot of money to take classes.