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100% agreed this guy just refuses to level up and fix his issues and just makes money from complaining about the dating market.

Depends how you define inner game. Most men with money have at least decent inner game, they are competent at their job/business and are just not in their comfort zone cold approaching women in a nightclub or in the street. The average man in western countries is too broke to date comfortably and financial issues are one of the top causes of divorce. Having a dating life is ludicrously expensive in a major western city, you can perhaps do the broke guy with the broke girl frame and sure that works with some women but definitely not all. Especially not if you like particularly attractive and in demand women. If you mean really rich you're forgetting about sugar dating. I knew a guy that did it and he took multiple bootcamps from RSD and he said these guys were coping in their belief that money doesn't really matter with women and the relationships he got from sugaring where sometimes better than the ones he got from cold approach. He said women he got through sugaring actually put effort in the relationship, their appearance and sex whereas regular women kind of took him for granted. He said people expect those women to be materialistic gold diggers but he said a lot of them just had financially insecure childhoods and were responsible and pleasant women to be around, used the sugaring money to pay bills not to spend on clothes or dumb stuff. I haven't tried it myself but it does make sense, PUAs cope hardcore. Having a successful career let alone being rich and being able to spend $3-8k/month on sugar babies frontloads a bunch of positive male characteristics into it. I still think there is something cool about pickup and knowing that skillset but most of the pickup guys I know(I've met at least 200) never even got to sleeping with really hot women, let alone date them, let alone have a stable long term pleasant relationship with them. It's quite easy. Demonstrate higher value and women will like you. There are lot of ways to do so, both socially and overall with your life. Which is why my strategy revolves a lot around social media and social circle game. To build a social circle with hot women over time you need to provide value in one way or another and social media allows you to display that to women all over your country and the world and widen your net.

Probably true. I keep telling people they have a stange orange shadow on the forum, we should for sure have some industrialists and entrepreneurs in our ranks that have changed society in some way. I run communities across Canada but I can't say my impact is 0.01% that of Musk, you literally see Teslas each day down the street so that's product visibility let alone making electric cars again. Musk can be a dick but the main reason people don't like him is they're tired of being poor and just jealous of a dude that made it big. He's one of our top visionaries alive today and a treasure to the human race for sure. He is linked to child mining through sourcing Cobalt from the Congo though, he's apparently trying to diversify the supply chain and remove Cobalt from teslas through innovating in battery tech but still.

Late stage capitalism and globalization. In a way it's good, the world is uniting and facing the same issues together. Great point. Which is why I'm massively optimistic about AI ubi and the post scarcity that the technological singularity promises. There isn't really another way to solve the cost of living crisis that's happening. Good thing you don't have much power, your political ideas seem pretty dumb. @Basman I wasn't there in person, saw a video. Not sure how I would react, hopefully as well as the people that attacked him to get him to stop.

How is Elon Musk destroying the planet? If anything he's been one of the forces helping climate change big time by revolutionizing the electric car industry. I think he's doing amazing things although he's not perfect. Falcon 9 reduced the cost of low earth orbit flights by 20x Feel free to shake some of they key points. I think he's one of the top examples that we have today of an impactful life built around life purpose.

You'll be 99.997% fine but I mean if not say hi to Kobe for me

It's true but social skills still help. There are also concepts like authentic vs negotiated desire that are hard to grasp if you've never done pickup. If you're young like 18-24 still probably worth to learn some game and fuck since women are less money focused at that age. Online dating is also sleeper OP. You can get decent pictures and go on 1-2 dates a week from it easy, way less hassle than cold approach. Most of my bodycount is from online dating. People think you have to be super good looking to get decent matches, it helps for sure but it's mostly quality of your pictures and how fit you are. Having your money right will take care of 60% of your dating issues. The rest is emotional intelligence and communication skills which is what pickup forces you to practice.

Cool, it'll be interesting to see how this AI arms race develop. We are about to get into the thick of things. Usually the more competition the better.

There is no way I'm getting into a human piloted helicopter. That shit is a death machine. Apparently they're a bit safer than a private plane but seems like there are less ways to land them safely if something goes wrong.

I saw an immigrant almost beheaded a dude in Belfast the other day, pretty wild. It's not a popular answer but I think AI policing and police robots will solve a lot of this. Illegal immigration is hard to stop and especially wars and climate refugees will make it worse. You need bigger community support and basically mediators to assimilate these people and just better policing. You can't take people used to using stage red to resolve conflict and think it's not gonna be an issue. From what I understand most of these incidents are pretty streamlined and somewhat easy to predict. Immigrant incels raping people, people escalating conflict like street fights way out of proportion and unemployed youths causing havoc. It's quite unpopular but that's precisely what technology like Palantir and predictive policing is meant to protect against. I'm glad we got 1984 to warn against the negative effects of a surveillance state so that we now can focus on the positive ones.

Cool, haven't heard of them before I'll check em out. Which one do you recommend most? It was not bad I watched a few episodes, I didn't get too into it though I started watching Industry instead since I was interested in finance, private equity and investment banking. If you guys like the historical drama vibe shows, Black Sails and Boardwalk empire are gems as well. Especially Black Sails; a pirate's life sounds fun. I don't think there's a show around the caliphates but I watched a couple episodes of Magnificent Century. It's about the Ottoman empire under Suleiman the Magnificent and his harem.

It's all good I can get defensive as well. I apologize for not understanding what you were trying to communicate. The line between confidence and arrogance is thin, it's hard to always fall on the right side of it for me at least.

Seems like you're stuck in escapism. Try to elaborate on what exactly is keeping you stuck and what your fear is based on and we can give you some outside perspective. You can also vent it out to an AI that helps me break things down when I can't make sense of a situation in my life.

That makes sense. We are on a self-development forum though and thus I will keep offering advice to those that want it. I've worked a lot on this area of my life and it seems to be taking me where I want to whereas a lot of people still spin their wheels in the mud. I like to argue so people that claim things with certainty over things that are quite nuanced trigger me. I hope I gave you an interesting perspective to ponder.

It's all good we're only human learning to be superhuman! Have a good day friend

I mean before I say this I wanna emphasize I do not see this as frame control and I am going through this in good faith but clearly you lack some emotional intelligence bro. Don't you see how this is going full circle to how you feel about people as a whole? This was a perfect showcase. You're not empathizing with Schizophonia you're like hitting him with statements. That's not how any type of growth based conversation or coaching is done.

I just mean that I seem to have more sexual energy and desire to explore with different people more than the average person. Dating people in a polycule would be stressful and chaotic for most people but to me that sounds exciting and fulfilling. @Natasha Tori Maru is right that I tend to portray my way as the best one, I should be better in how I communicate. I mean to say that the problems I've seen talked about in this thread I have also encountered and I aim to share the solutions I have found to break through them for those that so desire. Good you got this. Here is a good video on the types of pictures you should be going for to have a well rounded profile

Brother I think you're projecting. I've admitted to being wrong and still learning in my journey many times in this thread. You're refused to admit that your perspective might be wrong and tripled down on it. I'm definitely an INTP, just more ambitious than most I would say. This is my passion and what I've spend over a decade building. I have not much ego tied in it, I have a lot of thoughts on it because this is what I spend my days working on and thinking about and I've met hundreds of people in the field and thus have a lot of reference experience to pull from.

I can relate to a lot of this, especially before I started my journey. The first thing that jumps to me is well yeah if you watch porn especially hardcore porn daily then that's gonna take a sledgehammer to your dopamine reward system and make sexuality feel flat. If you're into particularly unorthodox paraphilias it's perhaps helpful to deconstruct that as it'll point you towards different parts of your psyche that you're unaware of. This is a good Teal Swan video where she talks on it. You don't have to open your whole closet of skeletons in public but perhaps AI can help you deconstruct it. @Sugarcoat Fair enough. I did miss your comment about letting the sexual energy build up instead of needing to transmute it into action. I'll ponder on that, I had an interesting experience yesterday going out with basically my nervous system lighting on fire and experiencing full body bliss while I was meditating at an outdoor event. It was quite wonderful, never experienced something like that before. Even expanding on my inner thoughts in this thread has been liberating for me as it's things I've thought about but not really expressed in this much depth before. The conclusion I came to is I have perhaps more libido than the average person and need to build a bigger container than most to express it.

@Sugarcoat Feel free to elaborate if you feel like I didn't get to the root of your question or observation. @Schizophonia All good bro the rest happens in your real life. What are you gonna do this week and this month to take action on what we've talked about? If you find it worth it to develop these connections organically then I 100% know you can do it. The rest is on you frero. Also to touch on the asexual comment once more hopefully you're not watching too much porn. It's very easy to suppress your libido through that especially adding neuroticism unto it.

How come?

Partly correct, I'm not talking solely about an internal state. That's great but that can be transient and doesn't really do much with your relationship to the outside world. What I'm pointing to is becoming a powerful person in your local community and the world as a whole. Dating is the intimacy based part of it and social circle/social media is the communal, business and global impact side of it. To me what's what a stage yellow developed life looks like.

What? It's a good thread and we're each sharing our perspective. What is unproductive about this conversation? Seems like perhaps you're not a fan of chaos in general and run from it. Confronting all our shadows is how we grow as people. Poking at each other's weaknesses is good. We should welcome it. I mean it's common for people that lack experience to have a similar perspective. I've clearly stated throughout the thread that if you're happy with your current circumstances then there is no need to change it. I have said that I'm not yet where I want to be in life and working each day towards it and enjoying the journey. To me an identity is constantly evolving. @Natasha Tori Maru I use weed more than I want to and it's for sure stopping me from reaching the peak effectiveness that I seek. I don't really fall into escapism though just underperformance the way I see it. It's made my business less effective than I want it to be and reduced my cashflow stability to be more precise. What appeals to you about asexuality? Is it truly what you desire or it's just easier and safer than confronting your shortcomings? I think it's possible to go quite deep with one person but a lot of people use it as a mask for avoiding development. For example if you scroll through Reddit a lot of relationship issues that you see come up both in a communication, emotional and sexual term stems clearly from a lack of self exploration and overall underdevelopment. That's the common societal narrative, I'm a lone self in this world oh I found someone who accepts me let's settle down and see what happens. Not saying that's ALL monogamous couples just a lot and the majority. I identify with all people and humanity as a whole so settling down with the first woman I like doesn't really appeal to me. As you can see my perspective is one of exploration and discovery with many people. I wouldn't say I don't aim to go deep as opposed to narrow, I think you should do both to explore all that life has to offer in that regard. Once I get settled into polyamory I will have children with the partners I have found the most joy and stability with and build something like a homestead where I grow my own food, raise animals and do international business with my communities across the world.

This is such a textbook example it would be a shame not to use it to spread awareness. As someone who's dated a cluster B(bpd) woman before, it catches you by surprise and fails to follow the rules of rationality so watch out if you're a highly rational man. So Aba from AnaNPreach just had a big drama unfold in the past few months with a woman he got pregnant accidentally and then tried to break up with as she decided she didn't want to date him. What follows is a beautiful case of all 4 dark tetrad traits displayed beautifully. https://www.reddit.com/r/Destiny/comments/1t6kunw/woman_making_claims_against_aba_from_aba_and/ Thankfully for him he has recordings, text receipts and in the situation he didn't get volatile himself otherwise it could've gone much worse for him. She proceeds to completely lie about a situation where she split him(going from full in love to someone to discarding them emotionally due to perceived abandonment or slight) and then after he decides he doesn't want to deal with this and tells her to leave and books her a uber and hotel to get out of the house, she proceeds to gaslight him by saying she's not safe outside and she has no service and has to walk outside for hours in the Montreal cold. Turns out after months she rephrases that she walked to 30 mins and booked herself a hotel. She then goes on interviews with Youtubers and tells people he screamed at her and verbally abused her when he has a recording of him talking very calmy and just being fed up with her and trying to get her to leave. People high in machiavellianism are master manipulators and know how to make themselves seem like the victim in all situations. You can't usually catch them red handed so it's common for it to lead to gaslighting and mental health issues for the person being targeted since you start to believe them. She also clearly shows sadistic traits in trying to ruin his life as much as possible and going out of her way to threaten to expose him to his competing content creators and records videos with any other girl she can get to say something negative about him. Also seems like clear psychopathy in feeling no guilt in turning on him like this(for example my BPD ex didn't really do things like this she was mostly just BPD) and also a lack of long term thinking and massive pride at being slighted since publicizing this makes her look unhinged and undateable to future prospects with healthy boundaries. She has some traits of BPD like frantic irrational efforts to avoid abandonment as she booked and cancelled abortion appointments multiple times(I read somewhere up to 10) even though she didn't seem to want to date him. It's very lucky for Aba that he's quite a grounded and rational person otherwise he could easily be in jail from an incident like this. It's a good reminder that emotional regulation is one of the top skills in life and most times with severely mentally ill people you just have to leave as soon as your boundaries are crossed and do not react to the attacks that follow. Dark tetrad is very real and present in both men and women so watch a few videos on it to understand how it manifests and especially some on healthy boundary setting as that's one of the best ways to cut those types of people off early as there are always signs. It's likely that Aba has a few narcissistic traits to be attracted to someone like this, narcissistic men and BPD women are a classic combination. How it works in a nutshell is you're a bit numb emotionally so a volatile and hot woman(they usually also tend to be hotter than the women you usually get so you let your boundaries slip and/or love bomb you) and play up the damsel in distress traits and it triggers a savior complex as well as you view yourself as a smarter and more grounded man than most you think you can handle her and change her. Big mistake the BPD traits are basically a hard counter for this and it always unravels. Traits are not the same thing as a personality disorder and I believe a lot of the self-development work that's done here if done sincerely will heal those traits as they surface from a wounded and thus powerful and sneaky ego. I did for sure and I've been working since my own last relationship to work on them and heal the wounded parts of my psyche so it doesn't happen again as it's quite a traumatic experience. Also quite common for PUAs to end up with mentally ill and particularly BPD women as we have an unstable sense of self and so do they and one of the core laws of dating is you do not attract what you want, you attract what you are. Dark Tetrad people aren't usually born evil, there is a clear genetic component but it's trauma based and it turns the ego into survival machine that's willing to do whatever it takes to get its egoic needs met(which aren't always rational. As I said before, psychopaths lack long-term thinking skills and impulse control; because they don't feel fear or the weight of consequences like a regular person, they're actually terrible in business.) Machiavellians are really the ruthless CEO archetype. Feel free to share if you've also had experiences with dark tetrad individuals as it's quite common and not talked about enough I believe.

@Natasha Tori Maru When someone says humans are profound waste of time that say nothing, that does not sound like someone rational to me. Does it to you? That sounds to me like someone who's jaded and gave up. I think my way is the correct way to engage with the world because it doesn't get me nor the people I see adopting it to that result. @integral I'm not talking about idealism. Feeling the way you feel is common, as I said it's covered in the video I linked above. If you wanna look at paradigms that lead to getting out of it as idealism then that seems like a closed off perspective more than reality. @WonderSeeker Which of my assumptions were wrong? I'm trying to put myself in your shoes and explain some things that you've said from what I know about psychology and sexuality. I could totally be wrong.