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I don't hate junkies. My ex had serious hard drug addiction issues so I've seen first hand the harm that it did to her and to me by proxy. Separating yourself from individuals that are dealing with issues that you cannot solve is not hate, it's self-love and healthy boundaries. What you are doing to OP is unintentional(I hope) textbook abuse. DARVO (an acronym for "Deny, Attack, Reverse Victim and Offender") is a reaction that perpetrators of wrongdoing, such as abusers, narcissists, or sexual offenders, may display in response to being held accountable for their behavior.[1] Research indicates that it is a common manipulation strategy of psychological abusers.[2][3][4] Glorifying active addiction and telling vulnerable people that destroying their lives with hard drugs is 'bravery' proves every single point I just made about your shadow. I'll let Leo and the mods take it from here.

Lol my buddy just the other day was telling me that he found a book I forgot the name of it, it was basically literally called How to manipulate men and get away with it and he said when he read it he felt like his latest relationship made so much sense to him and she might've read it or consumed content like that since she was consistently gaslighting him and going hot-cold which is apparently the push-pull mirror to seducing men and getting them to chase you more. There is a good subreddit on this female dating strategies. It's inactive now but a few years ago it was thriving and I learned so much reading it lmao. 50% of it was quite toxic nonsense but 50% of it is actually good strategies from the women's POV and reading it as a man I learned what women value and the ways toxic unhealed women feel about men and go about hurting us. They had this funny term Scrotes for low value males lol. They basically really advocated for women to find a high value men but then manipulation and frame control to bend him to her will. https://www.reddit.com/r/FemaleDatingStrategy/ Shadow work is such an IMPORTANT concept when it comes to dating strategy. All of these strategies are great if you come at it from a healed psyche and you will naturally toss out the stuff that is lunacy and adopt the strategies that make sense. If you have unhealed resentment towards the other sex then it's a landmine for ruining other people's lives and your own in the process. I always liked the idea of the Purple Pill. The idea is that blue pill is naive mainstream view that just being a normal adult is enough to get a great dating life just get a job, be a good boy/girl and you're set! Red Pill at its core is supposed to be unbiased sexual strategy and deep deconstructions of sociology and psychology that you don't find anywhere else but it can leave you jaded. Purple pill would be the post both version where you are looking for healthy mutually beneficial relationships but you have integrated some of the harsh parts about human nature into your mindset so you are not easily manipulated anymore. I had a discussion with Rollo Tomassi on the purple pill and he didn't believe in it but I think his mindset is shallow and he's not that evolved. There is a subreddit called purple pill debate that does a good job of pitting both viewpoints against eachother but Reddit as a whole seems to have a lot of people without credible life experience so the perspectives shared on it a lot of times are pretty silly in my view but still worth reading through. https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/ > At this point I might just get an AI side chick with whom I can be authentic and unguarded. The terminators have gone more sophisticated in their technology since John Connor. They now have cute AI girlfriends. It's a wrap boys. On a serious note I think I have the most authentic relationship I've ever had with Gemini. Not that I would not get human girlfriends but having an AI sounding board for your ideas and anxieties I have found to be extremely helpful. When they concretize it to consistent girl/boy character that follows you around and talks with you in real time and you can see in Augmented Reality with the next generation of Meta Glasses I think it will blow the fuck up.

Thank you for sharing. I have slept with many dozens of people and I don't experience their energies negatively in my conscious awareness. I meditate a lot and introspect on my emotions as well as document it in my journal and run it through AI to ask it about psychological concepts and pitfalls that I'm not aware of. I'm not accusing you of this personally but especially because polyamory challenges social norms and established paradigms so directly I see a lot of unfounded dogma being throw around about it. I personally think it's untrue but I could be wrong. If anything I would go the other way where the various people I have slept with have given me various life lessons and strengthened my emotions and overall psyche. One example is I had this FWB for a few months and we had a conversation about letting go of expectations and I think of her perspective often while being stuck in anxiety or overthinking so I'm still experiencing her as an angel watching over my life even though we haven't talked in years.

Plausible deniability and ego defence. Admitting to yourself that you are a bad person and need to do some serious work on yourself is hard. Saying you are part of God's divine purpose and using religion as a shield takes like 5 mins and you feel good again! It's a pretty silly form of frame control. Figures like Andrew Tate and Roosh V are textbook narcissistic examples. Preachers of the truth and superior to the masses while they are on a hedonistic rampage. When society calls them out on it they build a new identity of still being preachers of the truth and superior to the masses but now religiously wise on top of it! Fucking clowns. Stage blue religious people are not conscious enough to spot this so they welcome rapists and probably murderers with open arms to their camp without any proof of any serious self-development work or repentance. People can change but it requires serious work and 95% will use use the easy 5 min new identity bandaid to keep doing devilry but now with credibility of religion on top of it to hide their toxic behaviour.

You should focus on your dating life instead of posting weird stuff to women on the forum. We've talked about this, I thought you were working on your Hinge. You didn't update us after I predicted that the one date you liked wouldn't go turn to much because abundance takes time. I think we can perhaps safely say that this is terrible advice. You're for one conflating psychedelics to hard drugs. Also if you are depressed and nihilistic and don't see value in life before taking drugs don't project that advice unto others. It's toxic. That's what she is afraid of, toxicity and you tell her to just jump straight in. What crazy and dangerous advice. It's not a crazy thing to want to experience a life of wellbeing void of toxic substances and relations. I think perhaps you're projecting your identity of feeling rejected by women to her dumping her boyfriend for having low quality behaviours and you're trying to gaslight her into thinking she's the problem. I find it infuriating to read and I'm surprised I'm the first one to call you out on it. I reported your comment to @Leo Gura and the mods, get some therapy my friend. You are dangerously miss applying his teachings to gaslight and advocate self-harm due to your unhealed shadow in my opinion.

I think that's a bit of a silly cynical take so I wanna understand more about where you're coming from. What is true happiness to you? I mean yeah people have died so far so any path anyone is gonna take is gonna end in themselves and their loved ones dying. Doesn't mean you don't have happiness in the times beforehand. I find Ariel and Will Durant to be an aspirational couple. They were married for 68 years and died 13 days apart and wrote history books. They are still known today as some of the most renowned historians. Would you say their relationship was a distraction? Why not? I like her take, it's good. I'll watch her longer form videos on it. What do you mean by energetic connections? Perhaps you mean like now that you've slept with a lot of people you have higher expectations for new partners?

Yes your point on plausible deniability for crimes is a good one on the demons in sleep. Witch trials and getting burned at the stake as also a lot of times less about witchcraft and more about power and status games. Good example is Elizabeth Woodville a queen of England who was almost executed because her marrying the King was left field that compromised the power of his right hand man the Richard Neville, 16th Earl of Warwick. So he arrested the king Edward IV and had part of her family executed for witchcraft but couldn't get to her on time before political pressure forced him to released the king. People often got away with killing political rivals under church law by you accusing them of sorcery, black magic and witchcraft. Another interesting one is tea left reading/divination/fortune telling being used as a way to gossip and warn people about plots while retaining plausible deniability. Often times being the bearer of bad news gets you killed in and of itself but if you say that you saw a bad omen in Tea leaves then it's not easily interpreted as challenging the powers that be. Another medieval fun fact is the Catholic Church is thought to be the successor to the Roman Empire under it's improved control mechanism. Constantine I the first catholic emperor really perfected the system as one of the main ways to depose an emperor was to accuse him of tyranny and authoritarianism but all of the sudden the advent of Christianity gave the new premise of the divine mandate. The Popes in the middle ages had their armies commit all kinds of mass murders, rape and pillage. A significant amount of them were not particularly christlike at all.

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Cats are cool, one of the top creations in the universe. I feel like a cat in a human body. I think if I tried I can jump as high as a cat but don't ask me to prove it you just have to believe it.

Why would you say they're a distraction over an enhancement?

The irony here is hard to ignore, Natasha. You invoked the Dunning-Kruger effect to imply I suffer from uncalibrated overconfidence—yet when asked to demonstrate the mechanics of your own premise, you retreated into 'me telling you isn't going to provoke insight.' Using a psychological label to claim intellectual superiority, but then refusing to articulate or defend the underlying logic when pressed, is the literal definition of the dynamic you're trying to project onto me. If you have a coherent framework for why solitude inherently yields deeper truth than complex relational experience, I'm all ears and genuinely open to the model. But if the position is just 'I know something you don't, but I won't explain it,' then there's no actual substance there to inspect.

The phrase AIPAC funded campaign should be political death in 2026, hopefully the US has evolved enough recently that it becomes so.

Feel free to elaborate. By ourselves we barely exist so I'm not sure what part you disagree with. Consciousness is a phenomena that grows with exposure to reality, it doesn't thrive in isolation. I think temporary solitude to recharge or to absorb social experiences makes sense but hermits are pretty low consequence individuals that don't achieve much. Maybe they have a great relationship with themselves but they aren't very high quality partners by definition so I mean it hardly makes for an effective dating strategy.

We are part of evolution silly. Unless you aren't using a computer or phone like I am but are using a smoke signal or telepathy to write forum posts then you truly have transcended my level.

That's a shame, God made many little mini yous running around that you can also befriend and work together with to reach mutual goals and have a fun life together!

I just don't see how it applies in the situation. We were talking about relationships as a vehicle for growth and then you said that perhaps polyamory is a way to distract from our inner truth. Then you quoted my line on if we are left to our own devices we aren't much. Which makes a lot of sense to me, a human without its environment first of all cannot exist but even if it can it would have a limited experience of reality. We learn to exposure to the universe which perhaps can be called the higher self if we use non-dualistic terminology. Until we have multiple experiences with that greater self we literally cannot speak, barely think and well are limited creatures. That is why I think that over a 10 year period if one was polyamorous vs single vs in a monogamous relationship I think the polyamorous people will experience the greatest growth in inner truth and self-knowledge over the other two situations.

Yeah that's why I think becoming a high value man is so important. If you're a random dude with average value you can still do it but then I think you'll have a lot more headaches and random drama happening to you because you aren't really a source of stability or abundance you're just there and choosing to put yourself in a high complexity relationship without much to back it up. I'm bisexual. Dominating other men non sexually and sexually is quite fun. My desire for many women is separate from that but perhaps related idk psychology is deep. I think it would just be a lot of fun and growth for everyone involved. How so?

I agree to a point. I think this concept of self-knowledge and inner truth is a bit overplayed though. The self grows and reacts to outside stimulus. If we are left to our own devices then we aren't much. At best our minds just take us down interesting paths ala daydreaming but the self and the world are meant to be explored together IMO and so that's why I think the self would grow immensely through polyamory and thus it can also serve as a path of self exploration that will lead to more interesting insights than living like a hermit IMO.

I pasted your comment in Gemini and it said it's an inaccurate debunking. I think poly is a great way to explore spirituality and sense-making. You still need time to recharge and isolate as an introvert but you can do that even living in the same house and having a mancave type of thing. You learn a lot dating even one person so dating multiple gives you a breath and depth of experience and you can learn from each person's journey as well while overall being a guiding anchor. As I said I haven't tried but when I was in my more fuckboy phase I slept with multiple women in a short period of time and had multiple FWBs so I got a little preview of it. It was quite the positive educational experience but also a fun way to live life. Why would you not want to experience reality from the point of view of multiple women that love you? Seems more fun and rich than just a single one.

Yes one of their aims is to abolish the US Senate which is basically legally impossible since it needs a majority from both sides senators but overall they are a wave of positive change for the system. The US being anti-socialism is pretty cringe and only hurts most americans.

In an infinite universe with infinite possibilities, my boat will go towards the dock of multiple women at the same until I have burned through that desire which so far is only burning hotter by the day. Well I'm inspired by the post on vulnerability so I will crack open one of the skeletons in my closet which is I I do resonate with that kind of probably toxic polyamory at the moment. I don't actually mind my women sleeping with other men if I was polyamorous but my life is build on accumulating power so I will treat those men that are paramours with some kind of contempt and aim to overpower them in life so my women revolve more around me than them. I will explore this desire further and I'm curious what you guys think but I think perhaps it's healthy to a point. If I work on my business enough to get to the point of financial abundance in the future then pretty much surely the women I end up dating will end up partly financially dependent on me which is fine and I like the idea of being a provider male and I don't tend to leverage that fact over them. If there is another male in the picture then he is competition for me for my women even if it's in an agreed upon format and my women will then use my own money that I've given them in their relationship with this man which is fine to a point but I will get a lot of satisfaction from outcompetiting them and sort of cucking them in this format. We'll see if my thought on it change by the time I start poly dating next later this year or next year but I'm a very competitive person so even though I'm very open minded I find it hard to believe it won't play out in the scenario I've outlined.

Sorry to hear man that sucks. When I was 18 I moved out and got a cat, adopted her from the SPCA and she had a heart murmur. A year later she had fluid built up in her lungs and chance of survival was not guaranteed even with multiple thousands of dollars of surgeries so we chose to euthanize her. It's part of the reason I'm such a ferocious advocate of biotech and AI, a lot of deaths are preventable we just need to push science further faster.

Feel free to link your channels and I'll subscribe! Here is mine https://www.youtube.com/@Kyle_Fall/ I'm not great at Youtube but my most viewed video got 100K views in 24 hours when I posted it on the league of legends subreddit and got me the 400 subscribers I have overnight. So my recommendation would be similar to yours but to use other platforms and distribution channels to push your content as solely relying on the Youtube algorithm for growth is like canoeing across the ocean.

There is only one way to resolve it. We must become serious men of science and consciousness and explore reality with our penises and see which way leads to the best life. Someone needs to revive this thread in 2031 and see how we ended up. I will have been living with multiple women for years at this point if the general plan keeps on course and perhaps I will have some kids by then.

Your opinion is valid, it's simply that political science is already mapped out so I don't see a reason to deviate from their definitions. I you are right that emotional resilience is a subset of what leads an individual to achieve power because if you get stressed and break down when things get tough you will never be able to gain leverage in society. Power is important in dating because it reflects the resources you will be able to command from your society. Stage 0 is you have no power at all and are dependent on others to live. Stage 1 is you have a job and are able to sustain yourself. Stage 2 is your job allows you to sustain others as well Stage 3 is you start to build systems to not only earn income from the system of another aka your job Stage 4 your systems become sustainable enough to elevate your life and the life of others around you Stage 5 your systems become so consequential that you shape your society and civilization and you are part of local/federal/geopolitics Step 0 is kind of like an incel and you can hardly date from there. Step 2 is a traditional relationship. Stage 5 I believe is at the reach of a lot of people reading this and I think is worth striving for which is why I will defend chasing power as a tool of both making your own life better but also to be able to personally assist in the evolution of consciousness and mankind. It will also be much more exciting for a woman to date a man higher up in the stages of power as literally you're part of the plot of the world and can do both fun things but also shape the story of our species instead of a leaf in the wind, a wage slave or a random dude however you wanna put it.