LordFall

In an infinite universe with infinite possibilities, my boat will go towards the dock of multiple women at the same until I have burned through that desire which so far is only burning hotter by the day. Well I'm inspired by the post on vulnerability so I will crack open one of the skeletons in my closet which is I I do resonate with that kind of probably toxic polyamory at the moment. I don't actually mind my women sleeping with other men if I was polyamorous but my life is build on accumulating power so I will treat those men that are paramours with some kind of contempt and aim to overpower them in life so my women revolve more around me than them. I will explore this desire further and I'm curious what you guys think but I think perhaps it's healthy to a point. If I work on my business enough to get to the point of financial abundance in the future then pretty much surely the women I end up dating will end up partly financially dependent on me which is fine and I like the idea of being a provider male and I don't tend to leverage that fact over them. If there is another male in the picture then he is competition for me for my women even if it's in an agreed upon format and my women will then use my own money that I've given them in their relationship with this man which is fine to a point but I will get a lot of satisfaction from outcompetiting them and sort of cucking them in this format. We'll see if my thought on it change by the time I start poly dating next later this year or next year but I'm a very competitive person so even though I'm very open minded I find it hard to believe it won't play out in the scenario I've outlined.

Sorry to hear man that sucks. When I was 18 I moved out and got a cat, adopted her from the SPCA and she had a heart murmur. A year later she had fluid built up in her lungs and chance of survival was not guaranteed even with multiple thousands of dollars of surgeries so we chose to euthanize her. It's part of the reason I'm such a ferocious advocate of biotech and AI, a lot of deaths are preventable we just need to push science further faster.

Feel free to link your channels and I'll subscribe! Here is mine https://www.youtube.com/@Kyle_Fall/ I'm not great at Youtube but my most viewed video got 100K views in 24 hours when I posted it on the league of legends subreddit and got me the 400 subscribers I have overnight. So my recommendation would be similar to yours but to use other platforms and distribution channels to push your content as solely relying on the Youtube algorithm for growth is like canoeing across the ocean.

There is only one way to resolve it. We must become serious men of science and consciousness and explore reality with our penises and see which way leads to the best life. Someone needs to revive this thread in 2031 and see how we ended up. I will have been living with multiple women for years at this point if the general plan keeps on course and perhaps I will have some kids by then.

Your opinion is valid, it's simply that political science is already mapped out so I don't see a reason to deviate from their definitions. I you are right that emotional resilience is a subset of what leads an individual to achieve power because if you get stressed and break down when things get tough you will never be able to gain leverage in society. Power is important in dating because it reflects the resources you will be able to command from your society. Stage 0 is you have no power at all and are dependent on others to live. Stage 1 is you have a job and are able to sustain yourself. Stage 2 is your job allows you to sustain others as well Stage 3 is you start to build systems to not only earn income from the system of another aka your job Stage 4 your systems become sustainable enough to elevate your life and the life of others around you Stage 5 your systems become so consequential that you shape your society and civilization and you are part of local/federal/geopolitics Step 0 is kind of like an incel and you can hardly date from there. Step 2 is a traditional relationship. Stage 5 I believe is at the reach of a lot of people reading this and I think is worth striving for which is why I will defend chasing power as a tool of both making your own life better but also to be able to personally assist in the evolution of consciousness and mankind. It will also be much more exciting for a woman to date a man higher up in the stages of power as literally you're part of the plot of the world and can do both fun things but also shape the story of our species instead of a leaf in the wind, a wage slave or a random dude however you wanna put it.

Thanks for sharing, sorry you had to go through that. I think your definition of chasing power is more about coercive power and ego than actual power though. I like this definition centered more around your ability to influence others and thus the world. I would say that your bullying incident occurred because you didn't have enough power and status in that environment so insecure guys used your vulnerability as a tool to try and increase their own status. That type of insecure power is usually short lasting because it creates enemies wherever you go because the people that use it are using situational status as a tool of leverage as opposed to true power which just comes from being a source of abundance. I don't know you but maybe you're a smart nerd archetype and that guy instead of bullying you could've pitched you a business deal and you guys could've made money together. Truly powerful people don't burn bridges because it catches up to you. There are a few counter examples like president of the united states but that tale has not been fully written yet and if I had to bet that's gonna blow up in his face in an incredible manner so I still say that his life strategy is weaker than it could've been. This is a cool video and I highly recommend watching the whole movie. It also shares your view that dominance is power applied incorrectly and the true artful way of doing it is inducement where you seduce someone to your way of thinking as opposed to coercing them into it. The movie is about Professor William Moulton Marston who invented the character Wonder-woman, an early version of the polygraph and was openly polyamorous in the 40s while teaching at Harvard. Legend.

I think Occam's razor is an important thing to understand in regards to monogamy. It is more simple and easy for society to organize itself when monogamy is enforced. I've studied how relationships format have evolved throughout history and it's very context dependent. The best way to raise children seems to be in a communal format and our current atomized society pushes couples to mostly have to do that on their own. If you're lucky you have close family to help you but in general a two person unit is the structure of society today but wasn't the case before. I think polyamory sounds phenomenal and gives people a lot more options when it comes to structuring their dating life. I have not tried it myself but it's what I'm aiming towards over the next few years. There are some challenges that a monogamous couple wouldn't have but also vice versa. I think being able to share your intimate life with many partners and build a collective lifestyle and purpose together is a beautiful vision. I like women a lot so why not date multiple of them together and build a polycule instead of just limiting myself to one? I don't think either model is superior to the other, just depends on what you enjoy in life and which environment you think is optimal to bring children into the world if that is your goal.

That makes a lot of sense, exponentiality is a real thing and is flat for 90% of it until it takes off drastically. That's how my business knowledge feels, 14 years ago I started my first unofficial business and I got a lot of experiences that the average person doesn't have but I still have pretty massive holes in my execution capabilities that I don't see being filled until I'm 33-35 so mid 30s onward should be a different paradigm entirely.

Absolutely I think finding security in false power is a fool's errand and being able to admit your shortcomings is the hallmark of a confident leader. I don't really believe in overemphasizing your weaknesses just in owning them like Tyrion tells Jon Snow in the first episode of Game of Thrones"Never forget what you are for the world will not." I've watched most of Leo's videos. Can you explain how in your experience chasing power leads to powerlessness? I am very weary of vague spiritual ideas unless people can back them up with substance otherwise to me it feels like fortune cookie generic sayings that are true in some cases and not in others and aren't useful guidelines to live your life by.

Why are you being so antagonistic? Talk about lack of calibration lmao. Obviously power is very important in life otherwise you'll be a leaf in the wind unable to control your own fate let alone help others you care about. Why would weakness lead to happiness? Avoidance only goes so far.

Don't limit this attitude to muslims, and even then it's not all that have this holier than thou attitude. Jews have this principle as the founding myth of their religion. A lot of religious folks use their faith as a currency to judge others, establish a social hierarchy, and feel superior without actually having to produce real-world value.

That's true. I think you have to divorce the mechanisms from the pathology though. Pickup is just a methodology to gain the skills to meet people on your terms. Some people use the skillset in a coping fashion but ultimately it's on the individual to understand if their true needs and desires are being met or if they are being layered unto by unhealthy distractions and pointless socializing. I find it much more common for people to cope in the other direction and not being able to create an impactful and fulfilling dating and social life and rationalize it away. I think demonizing external abundance is similarly a common trap in spiritual circles. It's phenomenal to develop a sense of well being just being by yourself and not having much ala Eckart Tole on a park bench. Beyond that though the world is very vast and there are many beautiful experiences to experience yourself and to share with others that you invite into your life and a lot of them tend to be very expensive. Aligning your deepest desires with your skillset and removing your mental blocks is how I've seen people tap into the truly phenomenal existences. @WonderSeeker Really excited to see how your trip to China will turnout! Location arbitrage is one of the top ways people can quickly change their life for the better these days. @AION What thread, I don't remember reading it. Link it again here and I'll give you my thoughts on it.

So like you have trouble kissing girls and leading them to your place to pull so you just dance with them and then go home alone? Limiting beliefs are real and they definitely sabotage us for reaching our desires. Girls are people to and they wanna have fun sexy adventures as well. As for stand-up—using night game to build stage presence, quick-witted banter, and crowd calibration is actually a great crossover of verbal game. Unless you're monetizing that comedy or already have your income automated, going out often without building long-term leverage/systems is eventually going to burn out your time and energy. How are you structuring your routine so your night game actively fuels your career/income instead of eating away at it?

He's hardly failed. This is but the beginning. He just found out about his autoimmune gastritis last month. He's gonna start heavily fighting it as well as his girlfriend's endometriosis which is a massive disease affecting like 10% of women worldwide. People's attacks on this guy are disturbing. Not that long ago one of the leading forms of medicine was to bleed people so that the balance of humors(bodily fluids) in their body could be restored. That's partly how George Washington died. Soon enough our current medical practices will look just as barbaric. Medicine makes wild progress in very little time and are many massive initiatives worldwide lead by different people to work on curing all diseases within the next decades. AI's recent recursive learning breakthroughs lead me to believe this will inevitably end in major success for humanity.

What do you mean by not allowing yourself to sleep with them? Like you don't know how to escalate or you have a mental block around it? It is fun but you need to structure systems in your life around it otherwise it's a waste of time and other areas of your life will lag behind. Which is why these guys start businesses where they go around the country and get paid to practice talking to girls and teaching other dudes about it.

Not enough bro. This year has been involved a lot of forced restructuring for me. Last year I made much more money but I was dependent on one main client that was paying me $5k/month and then we changed the format to be a pay per event contract which switched me from being an hourly worker to only working when I wanted to but having to deliver on hosting real world events for him which cut my income by about half. I moved back with my dad to cut my expenses and restructure my cashflow so its not dependent on working in hours and lets me acquire multiple clients that I can fulfill with a reasonable amount of work hours and enjoy life. By Q4 of this year it should start paying off and by next spring I should be able to travel and start to live the live I talked about here.

I don't know why people call it sleeping like a baby, they are notorious terrible sleepers. New parents average 4-5 hours of sleep in the first year of their newborn being alive. I don't think you understand how well I'm gonna sleep with my robot butler taking care of that little mini me on top of hiring an actual maternity nurse to soothe the journey. Also think about it if you got 3 women in a polyamorous setup and they raise your kids together then each women both has friends all the time with them to make it less stressful and boring and also each women has to do less chores by herself and has more energy and time to spend on you while you're done taking care of the business and the kids are sleeping and now you got your women for the evening. Sometimes people paint this caricature of money and game like wanting to only drink from 24 karat gold glasses or only picking up women from a Lamborghini; that's not really the idea. For example for that maternity nurse to help with first year of raising a kid that's about $7-10K/month. If you don't want to pay another woman to raise your kid and just want your wife to be able to be a stay at home mom depending on the cost of living in your area you easily need a $200k+ salary to afford that and a decent quality of life IF NOT MORE LIKE 300-400K. You guys know how people on this forum are like OMG I've awakened to God I can do anything life is a dream! That's basically how rich people live. They solve most of their actual mechanical problems with real solutions but that's expensive. I don't really aim to live like a low or middle class person long term if I don't have to, there's literally no point it's painful and boring for no reason. I don't know who knows what my actual marriage will look like 10 years from now but I'm looking forward to it. I've always been a romantic I love being in a relationship but it needs to be the right one, I learned all I didn't like from my ex so I'm building my life to avoid the same pitfalls in the meanwhile. What about you, what are your current dating bottlenecks and what type of monthly action are you taking towards achieving your dream dating life?

How so?

Well obviously both is the goal. If you have a girlfriend that likes women why not go and fuck other hot women together? As well as experience the many beautiful places the world has to offer? I think if you do a lot of meditation and consciousness practice during this process you can actually destroy your own hedonic adaptation whereas usually people that do this get tired of it after a while. I got my mind to the point where I have crushes on women just like when I was a teenager but even while having slept with a lot to the point where a lot of guys are usually jaded at this point. I think that's the best gift you can give yourself, find multiple women you have crushes on, date them all together, travel the world, build a great business so you all get rich together, contribute to the social causes you care about and leave your mark on humanity. That's the good life. Why would anyone settle for anything less than that? That makes no sense to me.

Wait til you find out about femboys and trans girls. Oh boy. Why do you get angry when surrounded with luxury? You feel like you're a slave to the environment and have to be unauthentic to belong and it angers you? I get that I'm an INTP so I get fun figuring out systems and creating my own. Standing on a yacht is way more fun to me than standing on grass. There is content potential, capacity limits, you invite too many girls so just the right amount show up, all the girls are in bikinis and perhaps we'll find a good excuse to get people off their phone and swimming into the water, jet skis, boat barbecue, yacht tie up parties, lake drone footage, fucking in the cabin, etc. What on earth are you experiencing in the park? I want to take two girls with me to go work in a cabin by a lake here. I think it would be very fun to be out of the city and relaxing with a sauna and body of water and just chill smoke weed, fuck, read books, etc. Not even a luxurious cabin but a nice comfy spot for just one week, which is really not enough but is a good start. That's $2200 not covering gas, food and missing work so really more like $3500. I can experience all of this with the hottest women on the planet and you're trying to sell me walks in the parks with Sally from the neighbourhood. Once again I think you're insane my friend or perhaps I have been ruined by seeing abundance up close so I can't really go back to living a mediocre life.

You should, achieve your best life. Cultural analysis is quite hard at the moment, the next 20 years of human history are gonna be a cluster fuck of different dynamics intersecting. You say demographic crises I say AI automation and biological immortality taking our species to way greater and more exciting heights than we've ever experienced before. I think it's much easier to focus on our own lives than try to call what different cultures and societies are gonna do. Personally I'm in that boat where I'm maximizing my status and SMV as much as possible and not settling down anytime soon. I think this is a great strategy, many people in the past were forced into unsatisfactory marriages due to societal pressures to settle down. I doubt I'll have kids before 38-40 and perhaps with multiple women depending on how my polyamorous experiences develop.

Well what is your life purpose or your ideal life? If you aren't anywhere close to living your desired lifestyle then I think a lack of satisfaction is expected. If you are forced to socialize with people that you don't really build connections with then you can be caught in a real catch-22 situation. What type of people do you wanna work with? Network with? Date? You can develop a steady meditation practice to become more and more satisfied with the present moment but even then you just learn to appreciate and really tolerate circumstances that you do not desire. So what do you desire and are you achieving weekly and monthly successes towards those goals or not?

Totally agreed. To keep growing you have to do a few challenging things each month and keep pushing your boundaries. I move cities often so I've seen friends that stagnated and stopped growing and it's pretty sad to see. I experience when someone has been stagnating when they have nothing to talk about. They aren't into business so they don't have any cool projects they're working on. Not really an intellectual so don't follow politics or the economy. Not really socially relevant so they don't know any interesting interesting about people in the city. I don't know how to communicate with people like this. Sometimes they are at least good at talking about themselves so they ramble on and I doze off but sometimes they are bad at conversation and give one word answers and then it becomes truly awkward.

Why don't you have a phone there? There's no service or it's part of the culture to disconnect? That sounds like a cool aspect of it, digital detox is important once in a while for sure.

Got it, apologies I misunderstood. I thought you were shaming him for opening up about his dating life. @AION What do you mean younger women are super open, gen z is like the most self-aware generation in history. I think they have high standards when dating and especially the women don't have tolerance for a man randomly venting or trauma-dumping for no reason and not having his life figured out. That's fine, that's why we have a self-development forum! To figure out all our issues, level up far beyond the masses and date all the hot girls happily ever after.