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I think this case is very important and touches on a few corner stones issues we're dealing with globally right now. International law, mass surveillance, predictive law enforcement, rule of law, and the power of government the people. If the current laws can't stop a pedophile felon potentially murderer from becoming the US president and moss powerful man on earth then clearly the system is a bit broken and needs a revamp.

Damn HBO makes some of the best shows, hope they're not gonna go braindead christian and ruin it because durrr nudity. Watching Rome right now it's amazing. Cool to see social dynamics played out that you don't see in our day to day world.

Totally you have to live the life that works for you. Achieving your dream dating life is what I advocate for, so much love is possible.

I guess that statement applies to women as well but I'll focus on the male dating view in this post. I see a lot of comments both on this forum and on social media in general of people being over dating saying that it's a shallow activity or that they've been there done that and seen all there is in the field. Thankfully I think those are people are extremely foolish and misguided and I'll make my case here as to why. Life has levels and dating has levels. It also has skills. This means that you lack the amount of skill necessary to achieve your dating goals. This is a good thing because it means that it's in your control to learn and change and that it's not fundamentally rigged against you. People have different goals but I'll boil it down to finding someone you're deeply attracted to and compatible with and together building an awesome life that you enjoy living. It sounds like a simple task but I've rarely seen someone achieve it and I've met douzens of couples and hundreds of game guys. Let's break it down a bit further. People settle hard big time. I don't know if they're fully conscious that they're doing it or if they brain makes a subconscious of calculation that they're out of bandwidth to handle more of the pain of existence by themselves but they seem to give up and settle for mediocre partners. The basic promise and "quest" of pickup is that you'll be able to sleep with and date 10s. It's actually a common trope for guys into pickup to end up with attractive women that have serious mental health issues and usually a diagnosed condition like BPD(Borderline personality disorder.) It makes perfect sense because humans are multifaceted. BPD literally manifests as having an unstable sense of self and personality and if you're a man that hasn't found himself yet and is in the process of building his life then it's basically your counterpart. So to have a high quality relationship we need both a partner that is highly attractive but also mentally healthy and compatible with us otherwise the relationship will turn to a nightmare(been there myself, would not recommend.) So you need both to have worked on yourself as a man and on your ability to attract beautiful in demand woman and also have worked on your boundaries and abundance so that you don't tolerate toxic and unstable women in your life. You also need to find those women that are beautiful and also are compatible with your mission and interest. Meaning that you need to have some social circle game because you don't usually find those women at a random club/bar or on dating apps. Leo himself I believe fell into this trap because I do believe he's talked about dating beautiful IG models in Vegas but hasn't found some that would be compatible with his journey and lifestyle. This is not impossible, it's just hard. Status works like an aggregate of all other positive qualities meaning that to be a man at the top of multiple social circles you can't be a manipulator type with no substance as a social circle means that you're exposed to people long term and they get to know you; you have to consistently show up and offer value. Let's now talk about finances, to have the time and money to be able to dedicate a large amount of time to your dating life you need to have a great and flexible career or business that frees you economically. Which is what 5-10% of guys? You can try to do it without this but then you have various ceilings in your dating life like the ability to relocate and the ability to host your own events or paying to get into other high status events. Now who do you know that has achieved all of this or a big chunk? Probably no one or not many people. It's not impossible though nor even realistic. If you hangout in high level circles in big city you will see a lot of guys that hit a lot of these buckets. I moved from a bigger city Toronto where I saw guys like this all the time back to a more medium city Calgary and you already see the quality of men go down. Now the foreseeable objection to this is you're exaggerating, plenty of people date and don't go through all this headache. That's true but if you look at those couples a lot of them bicker all the time, have a stressed out and shitty lifestyle, poor sex life, cheat on eachother, etc. Your relationship should be an asset to your life. Your significant other making your life more enjoyable and helping your mission and life purpose. Don't give up on it before you reach this point. If this quest doesn't appeal to you that's fine but at least don't kid yourself and think that you've made it to the top and are now "enlightened" in the dating arts and are moving on to a superior field. As someone who's lived in many cities and seen many high level socialite circles, basically every single person I've seen with this stance is actually pretty mid and delusional. You can very easily test it and throw your own events. If you've sleep with a few cute girls here and there doesn't mean that you're high status lol, doubt you can even host one cool party with many hot girls. I think sex, dating and relationships are a beautiful fascet of life that can teach you infinite amounts about yourself and the world. It can be used as an escape but also for deep personal development and self-actualization. Before you give up on it at least try to picture that your absolute dream dating life would be and seeing if other men are out there living it and you can probably find some who are and learn from them and achieve it too. I think the quest for love for women is a bit different for women than men but for men it closely resembles a video game with different stats that you have to level up to get to your dream life and you guys are way too low level to think you have beaten the game lol. If you do it right it's also fun and exciting, it's not supposed to be an endless painful grind. I saw it clear as day with my friends before I quit doing pickup, they would get laid regularly and purposefully I would notice they would never approach the hottest girls only the mid ones. They had unconsciously figured out their best move and stuck to it. I see a lot of guys in the same boat of giving up on dating or saying they're above pickup when if they're honest with themselves deep down they know that the hottest girls are not into them because they don't have much to offer. It's all good bro life is a video game just pick what you want and level up. Most people underestimate how bad they are at something. I used to be a pro player at league of legends and there was concept called Elo Hell there where because its a 5v5 team game people believed that their bad teammates was holding them back from climbing rankings. But actually you have 4 teammates and there are 5 enemies so bad players help you climb and as a booster that got paid to level up peoples accounts the average player was so bad at the game like not that far off from if they let their dog play the game. Real life is similar why do you think the world is fucked cuz there are experts at finance playing the game and winning. I started hosting modelling events and other high status events and it really showed me how high the ceiling is. I have a guy I throw the events with who's a multimillionaire and we do a podcast together, it's allowed me to meet tons of really cool, interesting and beautiful women and I've only started to dip my toes into what's possible. This is also only in Canada so that doesn't even include international events and trips and events that you can't even unlock unless you're gonna spend multiple tens of thousands just on the entry level. An easy tip for social circle niches is corporate, finance and crypto events. That field attracts really smart and hot women 25-35 that you don't find in the traditional nightlife scene. Yoga and wellness events can also be good but that's not really in my hobbies at the moment so I can't comment. Although one of the coolest events we've ever done was at a spa village, where they have a lot of hot tubs, cold plunges and saunas so that's another cool event to host that's different from anything alcohol related. I've actually put my dating life on hold to work on freeing myself financially and scaling my business. I lived in Toronto and got to the point where I could date decently but the dating life I desire requires way more cashflow than I have now. I aim to take my business fully online and travelling the world with multiple beautiful women before I settle down in somewhere nice that I haven't decided yet. I'm very excited to actualize both my business and dating life and wish the same for you all. God bless and much love.

Yes it's common for low value men to hate hot women because they remind them of how low value they are. This is not limited to dating, this happens in any competitive market. Socialists tend to dislike rich people. When faced with incompetence you have really only 2 main options. Get angry and bitter. Or get better and improve yourself. I see you've chosen the angry ranting option.

Yeah in some circles they call this female solipsism. Whereas generally men already know that they should stfu and fix their issues and that complaining will not solve them. Women are more community based so their issues tend to benefit from collective bargaining.

Hookups are overrated but for most men you’ll need to work hard on your dating life if you want great results. Leo had an 8 hour series on getting laid and it included many action steps to consistently take and many self development steps. Not sure how you got from it just chill out it’ll come to you. In terms of specifically hookups though, once you’ve done it a few times it gets old in my experience. Relationships are more fun but more energy intensive.

You'll be able to buy a life size robot that looks pretty close to a real woman that has the most intelligent super computer in her head and can do your dishes and chores in 24 months. A mix of these 2. It'll cost about $30K USD from what I'm seeing but I'm sure you'll be able to pick one up for a payment play for around $8-12K USD. It won't be the same thing as live women but I mean if you guys have heard about gooners and goon caves you know some men are never gonna make it in the real world so this is not a bad alternative for them.

Porn is like fast food. It can satiate you for a while but if you're a straight male(or bi) you will not find much like a beautiful women that's really into you in this universe. Definitely would suggest you work on your game and social circle so you can sleep with women you're into on a regular basis.

Yes, I like to hangout with startup founders and entrepreneurs in terms of male friends. The people I know in real life into crypto and finance tend to be the smartest. I met this guy recently building his own liquidity protocol and I invested a bit of money into it, really excited to see where the financial world is gonna end up over the next few years. I just had a call with a friend I know from Calgary who's now in Madrid. We're gonna see if we can start a joint venture and work with high net worth individuals that are looking to more from North America to Europe. I really wanna spend the next few years of my life after this summer travelling and being a digital nomad so having a business in Spain would be cool. Seems like Europe would be a great place to build a setup and network over the next few years and you get access to so many countries with a nice lifestyle and beautiful women.

Yes it's great.

No I want an abundant dating and social life in multiple high level networks and industries across the world if I had to put it in one sentence. My dating life is an extension of my social life. I like to meet with people thinking and doing cool things. I went to blockchain futurist conference in Toronto in 2022 and I met and had drinks with Anthony Di Lorrio the billionaire from the Ethereum founding team for example and saw Vitalik Butarin speak on stage. There are also women that do cool things as well with the bonus that you can sleep with them and date them if that's your thing and your social circle gets to that point.

No you're just not in a high status environment. Where do you live? In big cities you find hot girls young girls doing pretty cool stuff. I cold approached Sara Waisglass when she was in Toronto for the film festival. Was a couple years ago so she was like 25 at the time? Actresses and influencers are just people if you live in the right places you can hit on them or invite them to parties and date them. What do you mean faking it and are a mess lol, I'm looking for cool attractive women to share my life with. Most people are not enlightened sages that's fine.

I enjoyed reading your perspective bro thanks for sharing, it's true I come at it from a north american dating perspective. Dating is super competitive in western big cities so you need to try hard. For the field reports I've read from SEA and south america it's a lot more chill to date attractive women there. If you date in Calgary, Vancouver, Toronto, New York, Miami, LA, Vegas, London or Paris you need some dang good game and status to constantly be around and pull top tier women otherwise you're gonna struggle for the scraps. The problem I find with going after women that don't like social media is you cut yourself off from culture. Social media is just culture at scale globally. I don't really like hanging out with hippie stage green type women, I feel like they just reject culture and think they're above it without having learned to navigate it.

@Meeksauce Use social media to meet more people and post about the cool things you're doing in life not for playing psychological warfare with yourself. Ask her out tomorrow if she says yes she likes you if she says no move on to other women.

I'm in a stage of my life where I value abundance and impact not so much childrearing so that's not the type of content I watch but I like what Jordan Peterson and Grant Cardone have to say and they have multiple kids. The life I'm suggesting for everyone is achieving abundance and intentionality in their dating life and business/career life.

@Valach Totally but we have to define what pickup is then. I define it as the study of seduction and improving you dating life. If you define it as cringe pickup lines and categorize trauma release as a whole other field then you miss the whole essence of it. Meditation and self development were at the core of the pickup industry since I got into it 15 years ago. Julien is a beautiful example because you can see his own journey from being the dude that thought himself above life and disrespecting women to having to rebuild himself and what he values and his woman stuck with him through it and now they're married. I love how he focuses on the core motivations and the feeling of not being not good enough in his clients. What sort of journey and dating life do you actualize from a place of love and self-belief? It's the journey I'm on and it's great to live through. The guys I see stuck in the toxic stages of pickup are no fun to be around and are quite limited in their mindsets. Some dislike women as people which tells a lot of about their understanding of themselves and life. Women are great.

Have you tried it? What were your experiences like? I've tried it and you will meet some cool people that have not done much in life and are at their starting journey with not much competence in their fields. That's great if you're inexperienced but I like more high status and established women in their careers that can add value to my life. I can coach people if they're open minded but that saps a lot of energy.

As I've said, that's what you call a cognitive bias and an assumption. Can you elaborate on why you believe this? I admire Julien Blanc and Maximilien Tornow who are pickup coaches who are in relationships. I like what David Bond teaches, he's not really into marriage but travels the world and has more shorter term girlfriends. In terms of high status men I like Alex Hormozi, he's the power couple type that does philantrophy with his hundreds of millions of dollars. In terms of ecosystem I like Hugh Hefner, he was never divorced but his ex girlfriends have some indeed shady things to say about him. Will and Ariel Durant are now dead but they are a couple who became some of the top historians on earth and ran a thriving business and life purpose together. The problem is you're speaking from theory man. I take from successful men in all niches and apply it to my life and share what I've learned with my clients and online. I don't need a flawless role model to learn from because I can learn from their mistakes. Michael Sartain is a great coach who I've learned form but he's not married. Leo Gura is also a great man that I learn from but he doesn't have my dream dating life. Learn from your other selves on what makes sense to you and build your dream life standing on the shoulders of giants; that's my philosophy.

That's the low level way to do it. It's a great way to dip your toes into different communities and flesh out your interest but you need to dedicate time to really bring value to a social circle and get all that it has to offer. For example Toronto has a big startup ecosystem and a thriving film community with hosting one of the biggest film festivals on earth the Toronto International Film Festival. You can go as a nobody and meet people that are passing interest in them. If you want to get invited to the premieres and meet the actors and directors you need years to network into the industry. Same with the startup and business ecosystem. I once hit on a Netflix actress on the street and got her Instagram but she didn't follow me back. This guy I knew has a penthouse and hosts big parties and ended up sleeping with one of them so I mean there you go.

No they're not assumptions, they're common landmarks that we can use as epistemology to validate what is said. Instagram is the app that pretty much all women are. If you don't have a presence on there then you will be irrelevant to a lot of them, no matter how well built your life is. I have clients that pay me to build their Instagram, it's called personal branding. If you don't know much about the field nor have any way to showcase any social circle you're a part of nor the women that are in your life then your perspective is limited. I'm sure you've dated beautiful women since you're aware of how compliant they get when they trust you and feel safe with you. It's indeed important to get them to help you build your kingdom as well and not just be entitled princess that you labor for, princesses love to work for the king what else is there to do in this universe. @Elliott Not at all, you can feel free to elaborate your perspective but I've just fleshed out your mental block. If you had some intellectual integrity and awareness you'd thank me for it. Feel free to introspect on it and if you're able to point out flaws in my arguments and ideology feel free but it's pretty solid, well researched and tested so I sincerely doubt that you can.

It's interesting to see your perspective fleshed out over out conversations. I see that it's quite limited though. You're like a socialist being sour grapes to people doing better than you. First it was rejecting the idea of casual sex then it was rejecting pickup now it's rejecting high status women. When you do volunteer work you realize that it's also based on materialism right? Like volunteer organizations generally seek to help animals, or help the homeless or victims of domestic abuse or refugees. You realize that's a business right? Like they need funds to fulfill their mission and do their volunteer work. Don't you think that as a millionaire you could further those causes and help more people? And thus if you're a millionaire man you're a higher value man because you literally command more economic value than the average man and can thus fund causes that mean more to you. There are plenty of well connected attractive women that also value social causes. This caricature of "materialistic women" as being unpleasant shallow women that don't have any meaningful goals is really hurting you Elliott and anyone else who shares that view. What volunteer organizations mean a lot to you? For example princess Chiara de Bourbon is the ambassador for World Wide Fund for Italy and France so clearly animal rescue means a lot to her. Why don't you go organize big charity events around the world and you can meet attractive women who are into that. https://www.instagram.com/chiaradebourbon/ The high status women are too materialistic for me is cope brother, they're just women and people and usually are pretty cool and well developed too. Go level up and date one or many of them. They're super cool to hang out with, they have cool ideas and if you're a competent man with resources you can help them make their ideas come to live and live a fun life of purpose and abundance with them.

Groups fall of over time through drama or people going their own path if there is not a solid glue holding them together. That's where you come in as the social circle leader! People are so lost that if you consistently host cool events that have value you will invariably rally people together.

I like attractive smart women with a lot going for them. You can call them materialistic or you can call them in demand with a lot of options. @Zenterus Good luck with the events, they're fun but a lot of work. What is your taste in women? Once you start doing them you'll see you can cater to specific niches but it takes a while for the seeds to flourish. I'm gonna be doing some fashion events in Europe in spring 2027 so gonna be meeting meeting even more stunning women there. @Hojo I love the status game, as an INTP I find it very fulfilling. You get to unravel the mysteries of the universe and sleep with beautiful women as a reward. They're not more annoying than men, just have their own objectives as humans. Women need to feel safe in a chaotic world and unless you're the man you can't really dominate your society and offer them safety, purpose and a fun existence at your side. @WonderSeeker Totally people have different goals, I aim to encourage those that want to achieve more and document my journey. I'm not where I want to be and it's looking like in 6-8 months my setup will level up even more so I want to showcase the journey and progress of it. Everyone can achieve a level of this if they want so I just get disappointed when I see people getting stuck at level 2 of the journey and giving up. @theleelajoker Some ways work better than others brother. It's not generic at all, I've studied most game coaches and only people like RSD Luke and Michael Sartain do social circle game at a high level. I've learned from both and it's why I've been able to do some pretty crazy events and date some girls that I don't see anybody else have even access to lol. If you're able to replicate some of this feel free to share your Instagram and share your results as well. They say the two core male delusions is being able to fight any other men out there and being able to pickup any woman. That's why having IVE(irrefutable visual evidence of your life) and receipts is key if you wanna come at it from a similar place of authority. I'm a polyamorous man myself and want to explore the world and date many of these women and buy a castle somewhere and settle down with a few wives so getting one attractive girl to be into me was only the start of my journey. I'm grateful to all the women I've met so far and am looking forward to meeting many more! Hot women teach you a lot about the universe and if they're difficult in your experience it's because they have a lot of shit test to screen out men. If you are what they want they turn into princesses it's funny and very pleasant to witness. Women are the greatest invention of God apart from the universe itself, such a joy to meet your divine counterpart in physical form.

No Leo she's real the hot witch girlfriend, she does have real magic it comes from a supercomputer though.