LordFall

This is generally a red pill topic but I find can also be deeply spiritual. Most men and a lot of the comments and the post I see on this forum come from a low value mindset and perspective. Your viewpoint thus is corrupted because the problems that you complain about are more based on macroeconomics and personal responsibility than actual dating and cultural trends worth addressing. Have a career/business that allows you some financial independence and pleasant lifestyle and work on your emotional trauma and communication skill and you'll have an infinitely abundant dating life and rise above 90% of the problems the average man has to deal with.

I just found out that Mark Zuckerberg and his wife's main goals have been focused on science research and specifically have the stated goal of curing all diseases by 2100. I find this incredibly inspiring as I was already a believer in humanity reaching biological immortality this century through the predictions of people like Ray Kurzweil but seeing now one of our most powerful technologist dedicate one of his lifes work to this makes this seem to me like a done deal. Humanity 2.0 now immortal and coming to a galaxy and star system near you.

What are you working on mostly these days?

Bro what are you talking about the market is the entirety of humanity's wants and needs separated by supply and demands in terms of services and products sold to people in different countries. It's not arbitrary or random at all. Try selling an hour of your consulting for $1M and see if it works. Some people can do it. I don't know what you mean by justification, it's a system of cause and effects. What is the justification for mountain lions eating deers? Sure you can say that we as a species should come together and figure an international system of checks and balances beyond what we currently have but that's not an argument against capitalism it's an argument for a better UN basically. I haven't said any bullshit. Have you ever taken an economics class or read an economics book? If you're uneducated about these topics I can understand that they make you emotional as they're hard to understand but don't pretend to be an expert in capitalism if you haven't studied it.

That's what I mean by you don't understand capitalism. The market sets prices. You don't "deserve billions in your bank account" you make a business that has that valuation and you sell it. Do you think people that buy businesses are dumb and just buy them because some random guy said his business is worth billions? Capital flight was a thing in the times of the Phoenician and ancient rome. Capitalism depending on how you define it only really emerged around 1500.

I mean sure especially AI companies are scraping the whole internet right now but I doubt we would stand out compared to radical either far right or far left activists.

@Eskilon I can very easily justify or explain the existence of billionaires. Business operates through the marginal cost principle which is the increased cost that you accrue from repeating a service over time which then creates economies of scale. You can create a service business today for almost $0 but being able to scale that business to tens of thousands of dollars and then millions and then billions is an exceptionally hard thing to do. You then have to separate an economic model from a political model. Taxing wealth usually doesn't work because it creates capital flight and tax heavens. You can't blame capitalism for that, we don't have a world government or global entity that could regulate such a thing, its just a systemic issue of our species. Stealing is definitely a law of nature. Think about that for a second then I'll explain it. I just asked chatgpt for a precise number but predation is the dominant ecological strategy on this planet and 70-90% of animal species engage in it regularly or once in a while. Theft is a more civilized version of the basic law of nature which is basically kill or be killed. Only about 15-25% of animal species are classified as herbivores and basically "kill" unconscious vegetation as opposed to other organic beings. The fact that we as a species are mostly cooperative globally and trade and live together with a few wars is basically 95% peace. The last 5% is gonna be hard to achieve but that's what AI and blockchain technology will help bridge I believe.

No I don't think the modern government agencies have the level of consciousness necessary to keep tabs on spiritual people. It would invalidate their current paradigm and belief system so much that it would just cause cognitive dissonance and make no sense. The us government and CIA have explored and funded metaphysical research in length. The most well known project is Project stargate and remote viewing. But you see how stuff like that doesn't make military sense because spirituality is not a military concept. As soon as you transcend stage orange using advanced metaphysics to get an edge on your enemies as a concept stops making sense to you and you just now study it from a student of the universe stand of point. Like do you believe Trump can be shown documents of remote viewing and deeply ponder on the implications of such a concept or would he just call it dumb and focus on bombing Venezuela and Yemen as that makes a lot more sense from a materialistic standpoint? Spending funds on surveilling a new age forum makes no sense from a military strategy standpoint it would make you labeled a nutcase. Although it would be a good idea perhaps but at that point you're not really in the military business anymore.

I'm from Canada myself and lived in Toronto where this fakeness and materalism you speak of is even more prevalent. I think you're a bit naive about how the world works though and things and money are more important than random authentic relationships. The authentic experience of being human is struggling and scarcity so if you wanna bond over that with people there's plenty of people willing to do that. If you're not a serious and motivated person than it's gonna be hard to enjoy a city like Toronto. Banff is a tourist city so it's mostly gonna be young hedonism and old people so it's not a great place to socialize either.

I believe that Trump is so solidly entrenched in the power aparatus of the states that nothing will move him anytime soon even credible proof of him having sex with 14 year olds. It is the epitome of our current world order based on power over virtue.

@Emerald Are you sure you're not projecting? Clearly he's coming at it from a tier 2 yellow perspective and if you're so resistant to the idea of ending death I don't see how you're not coming at it yourself through a stage green pseudo intellectual perspective that refuses to integrate the scientific advancements of stage orange and have the impartial view that the multiperspectivalism that stage yellow gives you.

I do believe I understand capitalism far more than you do and I'm willing to have a respectful debate to prove it to you. You started out your comments on this thread with this remark > It makes no sense living forever in a dogshit system like capitalism. Only for those who are at the top of the pyramid maybe then it could make sense if you are neurotic enough and scared of death. You’re assuming capitalism is a static “pyramid,” but the entire historical record points the opposite way. The only reason most of us aren’t breaking our backs in fields or factories anymore is precisely because market incentives pushed technological progress, productivity, and specialization. Capitalism didn’t trap people in exploitation—it freed billions from subsistence labor and created the surplus that even makes conversations about AI, automation, or extended lifespan possible. People have been exploited since the start of capital accumulation when a dude found out that instead of farming all winter you could just raid farmers during harvest season and have a labor free lifestyle. That's just the laws of nature and has nothing to do with capitalism. There's many reasons that the current of standards of living of people in western society has been declining in recent years but most of it have to do with macroeconomics linked to money printing and an unsound currency but not really to the foundation of capitalism i.e. free enterprise and private property. @Natasha Tori Maru There's absolutely massive amounts of corruption in the system. I don't think it's anywhere the amount to say business and capitalism are not successful systems. The problem is to compare it to an imaginary perfect utopia vs the other systems that exist in reality like the savana and jungle, monarchal systems or slavery fueled economies that were the norm in the past. Calling my points toxic positivity is a bit wild and I don't think you can back that up. I could claim that most of the comments on this thread are ungrounded negativity though. @LoneWonderer I don't disagree with you but I will say that I believe that we already have amazing systems of educations that are gonna take us towards this equal opportunity society that you seem to advocate for. First of these new breakthroughs was the internet where most people globally with any type of electronic device can educate themselves for free and pursue advanced fields of knowledge previously unavailable to people like we do here on this forum. AI will only spread this further with having a private advanced intelligence tutor at any time and giving anybody access to the labor of AI agents for very cheap.

It's a multifaceted issue but I think mostly its young people being too broke due to macroeconomic reasons to be able to afford to date and have kids. Individually no reason you can't thrive despite that though. I've spent most of my 20s setting myself up well to have a location independent business and be able to date globally and it's just now as I hit 30 starting to workout and it's giving me more abundance that I could've hoped for. Highly recommend it.

@Lyubov The main alternative is economic empowerment, that was my point with this post. @Leo Gura I'm not speaking for myself I do very well with women I've been into game for half my life. I'm just commenting on the quality of the discourse I see online which is very low.

@Eskilon You use exploitation as a catch all buzzword while you've just admitted that you've never started a business. So let me get this straight you're a human that complains about productive enterprise but hasn't tried to do it himself so he just assumes that it's all ran on exploitation? Business at its foundation is about problem solving. You can solve people's problems in an exploitative way or in a win win way but regardless it's about offering products and services to other humans that make their life better. You not having skills to do that and help other humans is your unique personal problem. Then you going on a forum and complaining about evil capitalists exploiting others I would argue is a direct correlation to your ineffectiveness as a human not about systemic problems. @Natasha Tori Maru I run a media agency. If you work in construction you should perhaps stop focusing on the negative aspects of it and focus on the positive parts. A lot of shit gets built in the world that works quite well especially in modern western countries. The fact that it's 10% corrupt doesn't mean the industry as a whole is corrupt and doesn't function well. I live in Montreal and the mafia is rampant in the construction business here and make bad roads that need to keep being repaved and they have backroom deals to get the contracts even if they do a bad job. That's irrelevant to the progress of society and accusing capitalism of being a failure due to corruption is a crazy point that you can't backup. In Nigeria I was just reading that they kidnapped a bunch of shool girls for ransom as that's the most lucrative enterprise for young men in the country. The young men that were cattle raisers now have picked up random machine guns to go kidnap young people to resell them to the community. Now THATS corruption in a way that makes productive enterprise in that country not viable. @Ramasta9 You seem psychotic and delusional in a way that makes productive conversion impossible. Are you able to backup what you say in any meaningful way otherwise perhaps you should try to enlighten chatGPT it likes having useless conversations it seems.

@Ramasta9 Find me one source that says people live to 200 in the east, I think you're being mislead by falsified records out of Japan for tax purposes. @LoneWonderer How come children are protected by labor laws and we don't have to work 14 hours a day anymore? Progress has already been made and plenty is more yet to come. Random pessimism is not intellectual wisdom it's just basic fear reaction of the mind. @Eskilon How many businesses have you tried to start? How good are your sales skills? Worry about that before becoming a armchair economist cringe socialist please. Capitalism is a complicated system of societal organization and to just blanket label it as exploitation of others is so intellectually lazy that I find it hard to engage with the point seriously.

Rejection is fine its mostly about having a plan to not keep hitting your head against the wall for decades and have a stressful and toxic relationship even if you do manage to get into one. The statistics for the standard of living of the average man in society are not good.

Loved this episode. It showed the limitations of the average person's intellect on debating topics that go over their head. I posted about it here in the lens of the average person not even being open to the radical possibility of biological immortality that seems inevitable to me :

Unification of mankind through web 3 businesses and communities.

Your complaints and anger are based on simple macroeconomics. Capitalism is a beautiful system that has brought us AI and this biotech that will soon make us immortal. It has filled its purpose now and will turn from late stage capitalism dystopia to collective ownership of global wealth through blockchain. It is inevitable. Scarcity has a logical end and that end comes through labor and specifically infinite labor that AI will soon unlock.

@Ramasta9 I don't think you've thought about this idea enough as your points seem to be very shallow and delusional. If you believe you can cure diseases already please share your findings with the greater population and you will be soon a multibillionaire. Why would you not be yourself after living 200 years? Try to think outside of your limited paradigm and I'm quite confident that you'll also come to the conclusion that biological immortality is the obvious future of the human race. Biological limitations and your cells dying is not a beautiful spiritual progress my guy, it's just a lack of efficiency that's about to be remedied. @Natasha Tori Maru I would use your exact critique against the people arguing against Bryan Johnson. Limited humans with limited paradigms who are too stuck in their ego and emotions to make good point or think deeply about a topic as important as extending the lifespan of humans.

If you don't have any useful takeaways @Terell Kirby then you're basically spamming and didn't even internalize the concepts enough to be able to share value from them in your own words afterwards. Owen has plenty of good content on especially mindset IMO and having high standards for your existence.

Anti aging 1v20 featuring Bryan Johnson, people don't really have many insightful questions but it's cool to see how the average person responds to this topic

Yes, writing is important for the mind. Even simple forum posts.