LordFall

Having sex with escorts is alright, your own girlfriend is way better though. Then you can cuddle also which in some ways is better than sex. I will try it with two girlfriends and report back. It's also fun to fuck in different place its a different feeling each time. The woods feel very primal even if it's not comfortable.

Which one of his points do you think I misunderstood? If someone is not comfortable with sexuality and doesn't wish to get over that discomfort and thus raise their bodycount then that's their life I don't really care. For me sexuality is thrilling, fulfilling and an exciting adventure so I have pursued plenty of partners in the past and plan to pursue many other sexual connections. Increasing bodycount is just a consequence of that, it's not really the concept that's worth getting stuck over. I'm not really into one night stands so for me building a polycule is the next logical step in my life. I aim to date a few bisexual women and travel the world with them and sleep with women all around the world. I'm also bisexual myself so perhaps that's another key to this discussion, I'm more comfortable in sexuality than most people. I'm just starting to explore that side of life so far it's been a good time!

Absolutely. Where do you live? If you live in a mid sized or big city you should try that newbie challenge I linked and go out almost everyday to talk to new women and in a few months you won't recognize the social skills you now possess.

Because I'm injecting consciousness and development in the discussion which is obviously lacking. Leo mostly did pickup from that solely cold approach stand point and he seems to have hit a wall in the type of women that he managed to integrate into his life. He should also come at it from a more stage yellow integral perspective and I believe he will have much more success. I agree that deep relationships are key which is why I find that the social circle model much way better in achieving fulfillment in your relationships, romantic and otherwise. I'm getting my long term friends to follow this and come to my events as well. There was a lot of resistance at the start but they seem to be enjoying it now and helping me scale them in an interdependent way which is great. A friend of mine helped me on a podcast I did in Calgary and another hosted an investment event with me and before I moved cities we started going out again regularly which was a lot of fun and pushed my own boundaries in the process. I actually am not really a cold approach guy and there's still a lot of development I find doing it. Part of it is self-esteem and proving to myself that I am worthy of talking to the hottest women I find and they seem to be more and more into me the further in my journey I get so it's quite healing and gratifying to pursue.

Your position is obviously quite shallow. Feel free to input your own thread into an LLM and I'm sure it'll point out the shortcomings in your viewpoint. I'm not a psychologist but usually when someone projects that everyone else must have shallow and toxic relationships that's more a reflection of their own life than a truthful view of reality. Obviously there's some truth in what you said but half-truths are some of the most dangerous generalizations you can make.

Yes there is something wrong in the way you do pickup and that's why you're not fulfilled with it. That's my claim and I've explained my reasoning behind it. You seem have a dense ego with how you refuse to admit your shortcomings and stick to your position even when presented with evidence that invalidates it so I don't think you're very coachable which is another reason why you're stuck in your journey. Yes I've followed Leo since he posted that rant against PUA videos 10 years ago which is why my game was built with depth to avoid the pitfalls he pointed out in it. I'm thankful to him for that, it was a great video. If you find meaning and fulfillment in your life outside of relationships then more power to you. Feel free to share what's worked for you since you gave them up.

Not at all. He admitted himself that his form of pickup was spam approaching women on the street. This is is a low form of pickup and seduction. I'm not surprised it lead him to not find fulfilment or satisfaction in it. He literally projected on me that everyone does stage orange pickup since he did it. I've already explained last page what is a better way to go about it. What I described is like stage yellow game as it is based on holism and not quick sex. The best way to think of it is viewing your dating life and social circle as an extension of another and looking at it more in terms of farming than hunting. Meaning that you're basically creating a fertile oasis for everyone to benefit and then finding the women that are particularly into you from there and dating one or many of them depending on what you're into. For example I'm in the creative industry and host photoshoots with models, photographers, content creators, influencers, etc. A lot of attractive women in that industry obviously. I've hosted events now in Toronto, Calgary and Kelowna around it. I'll be doing it over the summer in Montreal. I own accounts and group chats in each city around it now with hundreds of people in them. I help the women(and the men as well) with their creative goals and give them content help and give them tips on finding sponsors and monetizing their brand. https://www.instagram.com/creatives_toronto - This is one of my accounts for example You see how this is much more holistic than just cold approaching women on the street? I'm a logical guy so I spend my time thinking about business, marketing, finance, etc. So might as well share that knowledge with other people that usually don't find reading books about those topics interesting. I have spent the last 4 years hosting events around it. They're quite fun and it's fulfilling for me to learn how to make cooler and bigger events and travel to different cities to do so. I hosted a fashion show in Calgary last year for example. If you go with this strategy you must utilise the sowing vs reaping principle meaning that you provide people in your community/social circle genuine value and good times and don't just use it as a cheap ploy to get laid. I used to hangout with club promoters and dating coaches a lot in Toronto and this is my own version of this funnel. I've gotten laid many times from social circle game, it's a much funner way to date than just cold approach or online dating as you're also friends with the women you date and over time you get access to way more attractive women than you would just being a random guy on the street like it seems Valach was saying he burnt out doing. Every man has different interests and skillsets and thus their setup will look different but for me the creative industry makes a lot of sense and is quite fun to be around. I talk about it more in this thread if you guys are curious

You can do pickup from any stage from purple to turquoise. If you do it from stage orange that's on you. Do not project your lack of success unto others, it's the furthest thing from the truth my friend.

A lot of pickup teachers have unhealed emotional issues, in that situation it's quite hard to find fulfilment but it's not too far away. A bridge that's 80% built is 100% useless but it's not that far off from working as intended. Introspection on true desires and not societal expectations pushed on us is mandatory but once you do that I'd say for most guys getting some cool women into their life is gonna take care of a lot of their issues. Especially in the format that I've outlined above. I have worked with clients to help them build this out for themselves in different cities across Canada. I don't do it widely yet but this is when I met Mystery in Toronto through one of my clients that hired him as well.

I'm sorry you had an unfulfilling time with your dating journey. My best advice would be to combine it with your overall life purpose as well as social circle. When you have women that help you reach your goals and you help them reach theirs instead of just prowling the streets for a vagina to fuck; the game changes completely. Women are your comrades in reality and they are also looking for great adventures to embark on and have to face the difficulties of the marketplace and business world. If you're the man to solve that for them I guarantee you that fulfillment will be the least of your worries.

I think it's extremely rare for someone to have truly mastered dating and intimacy and to have built a phenomenal dating life. It happens but it's easily less than 10% of people. It's a shame because it's one of if not the the sweetest aspects of reality.

I disagree I think you're generalizing and projecting but if it works for you then more power to you. Thanks you yeah the last few years I have been going hard on social circle events and it's starting to scale and go the way I want it; it's been a good time. No need to resent women, I love them. The more of them you have in your life the happier you'll be.

I think you have to be careful with sweeping generalizations. Some women operate in scarcity and just give two handed compliments and live in competition. Some others are happy for their friends doing well and just want to support other women and perhaps humans in general. I don't think it's healthy to be jaded about human nature. It doesn't make you a loser to believe in the goodness in people. Quite the opposite as long as it's not blind naivety.

There are millions of beautiful women in this world. I can't experience them all but a hundred should be a good start into really diving into the feminine. Most men experience not even 5% of what women have to offer. I thank God I learned seduction and social skills to the point where I can mingle with women in a way that my teenage self would only have dreamed of.

I said the box point because you seem to have these ideas and apply them universally. I've simply shared what makes sense to me and what makes me happy. Self-awareness is all I'm preaching, if you know yourself and what works for you as well then more power to you. Well it's the path I've put myself on and it's worked out well so far so I'll keep on it was my only point. It could end up being 200 women or a bit less than 100, it's not a hard goal number. More a path towards more sensuality and adventure.