LordFall

Depends on how heavily on the spectrum but light autism can definitely become phenomenal at seduction with a lot of exposure and good coaching. If you just hammer out hundreds of approaches with no thought behind it like you said you did then of course you're not gonna make much progress but with the right strategy you can have a dreamlike dating life for sure. You don't think being in shape and having a good financial situation is important for a high quality dating life?

Did you read the post? He literally said he's on the spectrum and doesn't know how to approach women. Working on your business and fitness is phenomenal overall advice but in that specific case I think progressive desensitization is the correct recommendation. Also where did I say to approach meh women? If he's in a big city he can easily find multiple attractive women a day to talk to, just probably not his personal perfect 10 each day but for sure overall social exposure will help with that as well.

Perhaps you're projecting your own lack of self-esteem here by thinking you're not worthy of talking to women. Women love being chatted up as long as you're pleasant about it. You don't always have to go super direct you can just comment on something happening in the environment or give them a genuine compliment. I recommend especially following approach challenge for OP since he has some autism and it'll help it be more natural.

I think you could totally form relationships from clubs and bars but the main issue is that a lot of the people there are looking more for fun than growth and shared journey but that's not universally the case. The relationships I've had usually form from social circle. I had one girlfriend I found from volunteering at a comic expo. I think having mutual goals with your partners is a great start so anything related to your career and business is a good move. I run creative groups and a lot of women in there have similar goals to me. If you're into business then business/crypto/finance events have a lot of attractive women aged 25-35 and the single ones would be better partners than club girls I assume. One big unlock in terms of the hobby groups is to host them yourself instead of just going to other peoples. Then you learn community building and are more attractive as the group leader. Don't be a creepy guy just looking to get laid in that instance but if it's a meaningful hobby that anyway you're gonna spend years partaking in then it makes a lot of sense.

The answer is to regularly approach and it becomes more natural. You could've indeed just said hey I had to say you're really attractive, hows the day? You don't really have to overthink the context at the start of your game journey, if you try to go along with the jacket story or offering her your milkshake that's more likely to be more awkward than anything else. If you're autistic I would follow a straight progression curve like a newbie challenge and progressively desensitize yourself and you'll likely pick it up quite quickly with pattern recognition. https://www.skilledseducer.com/threads/newbie-assignment.34/ IMO the most important thing is to do a lot of approaches and get a lot of experience because if you try to only approach the girls you really like once in a while you'll probably fumble the bag but when you have momentum you build charisma quite reliably.

For me it felt like I had incredible times with these women and we weren't compatible enough aspects to decide to stay together long term. Doesn't mean that they weren't incredible women and I'm glad I met them and through that temporary love that we shared it fuelled me to want to explore sexuality and dating even more. I think that a lot of people that date just one or a few people never really experience the opposite sex, just a little slice of it through that person or not even that person since unless you really introspect and master your psychology you're just mostly operating on your shadow and subconscious. Not to say that some low partner count monogamous couple aren't fulfilled but one I haven't met many if any and two a lot of the relationships I see and hear about clearly show just pathology and scarcity played out in real time. To pedestalize that as the epitome of human romantic fulfillment is silly to me. I know myself quite well at this point in life. I've been dating and learning about human relationships for 12 years now. My life journey has barely started since my business is starting to take off and I plan on being a digital nomad and travelling the world for the next few years and having incredible experiences with women from countries all over the world. I could for sure meet the most amazing woman I've ever met next week in a festival in Montreal before I ever embark on this journey but I will just ask her to join me and if she's the love of my life she'll be bisexual and we can meet even more incredible women together. It seems that you've put yourself in a box my friend and trying to apply this box to myself and dating as a whole. The world is literally infinite and so are the romantic and sexual experiences that you can have. I'd encourage you to go on Reddit and read through the polyamory subreddits and read people's journey in that world and you'll hopefully see that your current perspective is limited and not backed up by any data or research.

@Sugarcoat Seems quite profound to me. It talks about the inherent blindspots we have towards our ego, insecurities, addictions and weaknesses that can paradoxically seem obvious to others. It's definitely not a normie thing to be highly skilled at introspection.

@Hojo It doesn't seem to me like you have rational thoughts towards this if I'm being honest. Why would sleeping with more women remove the opportunity for someone to find a long term partner? There's also polyamory and open relationships. You can be in a marriage and practice ethical non-monogamy and still sleep with other people. @Sugarcoat What exactly do you resonate with?

Are you a virgin and/or grew up deeply religious? Seems like a strange way to conceptualize the situation. I have like a 50 body count and I've met some incredible women throughout my adventures and dated some of them. Looking forward to dating and sleeping with many more, I'm sure I'll get to 100 in the next few years. Sex is fun and you get to meet and talk to people more intimately than in day to day life.

Why is wanting to fuck 100 women an evil though?

I don't think everyone needs to have a thriving romantic and social life for society to function. All the tools are here today to make you be able to build one if you so desire. The average man takes the path of least resistance as @Natasha Tori Maru rightly points out and then complains when women don't find them attractive. That's fine that's natural selection, it's always helped out species become great over time. If incels don't want to reproduce that's fine with me, I'll get rich and impregnate 5 women and if I need to knockup even more then that it will be my honour and I gladly accept the responsibility to help female-kind procreate.

Yes offering value is the oldest influence and power trick in the book. Actually be a genuinely valuable person to know and spend time with with good communication skills and emotional intelligence. Just be careful with the way you phrased it. That's textbook nice guy syndrome and people pleasing as covert contract to get what you want. Most guys treat women with kindness and respect and get surprised when women don't want to fuck them as a result. Attraction is a science that's worth mastering.

It's extremely exciting to live in our times. I believe Leo when he says when you reach stage turquoise you realize humanity has reached 5% of it's potential. The current societal narrative is blowing up and selling people tradition as an antidote is an very old power move to find wide ranging support bases. The first emperor of Rome Augustus used it to consolidate his power and finalize the destruction of the republic. Wait until AI UBI goes mainstream in the 2030s and people will get even more crazy as they feel as their existence is now meaningless now that they're now enslaved by cookie cutter work. Freedom is terrifying to humans because we're not used to it but it's obviously beautiful. This new right "masculinist" movement is kind of dumb because it doesn't really even preach self-improvement like the pickup movement did in the 2000s and 2010s. What good comes from demonizing female sexuality and technology? Congrats you're now an incel with no market leverage. It's beautifully ironic that a lot of the ones that preach it are hypersexual themselves and use their social media platforms to get a bunch of women and print cash from their audience that's too underdevelopped to understand what hypocrisy looks like. You can see it with hstikkytokky from the red pill netflix doc who roasted onlyfans girls calling them degenerate whores while actively building an onlyfans agency. At least he was wise enough to take a break from social media and reevaluate and life philosophy; hopefully he's wise enough to cure his own cognitive dissonance.

It's 100% a skill issue and light narcissism. You shouldn't take this stuff too seriously in terms of internalizing shame due to being unsuccessful with women. If you're naturally good at something you'll rarely get great at it Workout, go out regularly, get some status through social media and make a list of the hottest single women in the world that are your personal 10 and make it a mission to cum in at least one of them. Enjoy sexuality, it's beautiful but when you internalize being an incel then of course giving up is gonna take a load off your shoulders momentarily. MGTOW is a thing for a reason and those guys all seem miserable and like they're coping hard lol

BPD is a diagnosis that you fit. To qualify as such you need 5 of the 9 symptoms. So if a guy dates a woman with an intense fear of abandonment that flies into explosive rage every so often that's not qualifiable as a personality disorder but I mean you're gonna have a BPD sounding story. As well as if you combine bpd + bipolar the lifetime prevalence is more like 8%. Plus if you hang around self-development circles with guys that are the pickup kind and/or have dated a lot of women I wouldn't be surprised if it was statistically true that 30-40% of them have dated someone with BPD symptoms for a period of time. Yes you're correct that's why I mentionned they're not intrinsically evil people they have a wounded ego that deleted most of its empathy as survival response and basically creates chaos where it goes as a result. On the sadism part : "Psychologists Erin Buckels, Daniel Jones, and Delroy Paulhus led the expansion of the framework into the Dark Tetrad by demonstrating that sadism exists as a sub-clinical, "everyday" trait in the general population. They proved that sadism captures a unique motivational drive—the intrinsic enjoyment of inflicting pain or humiliation—which the original three traits could not account for. Integrating this trait was essential to understanding malevolence because it isolated active cruelty for its own sake, rather than as mere collateral damage for personal gain." If you also are familiar with the David Hawkins scale of consciousness, most humans are pretty toxic in one way or another until they reach higher states of consciousness. Doesn't mean all of us have diagnosable personality disorders but it's still helpful to recognize the signs in others and reflect on how toxic traits manifest in ourselves.