LordFall

I don't think that's ever optimal. You should try a hair transplant especially if you like younger women. This came up in our friend group with an acquaintance that's balding that decided to shave it all off.

Fuck it I talked to one of my business partners, we're gonna organize a speed dating in Toronto a month from now to test it out. I'll let you guys know how it goes. Really excited I think I'll learn a lot in the process. I think there is a big potential to help the dating scene, it's a disaster worldwide so each time I get pulled away from the dating industry I feel called back to contribute to it.

No you're strawmaning my point. Most people do not have severe chronic health issues. If they did then of course they should align their results accordingly. Even then fuck it we're looking at great medical improvements in the next decade I think it's looking pretty good for people with health issues. I'm not a medical expert so take that part with deserved skepticism. I'm pointing to having a stage yellow integrated lifestyle. Having an integrate stage orange is part of it. Having an integrated stage green social life would be that your social endeavours benefit the world. Having a stage yellow one would be taking it the point that you understand systems thinking enough to scale your results and impact tremendously higher than an average person could. Also stage yellow quantifies stuff, it doesn't rely on vague generations to understand the world. If you yourself have health issues and thus don't have the energy necessary to maximize your social and dating life that's a whole other issue. You haven't shared much about your life I got pretty personal on this forum you guys know basically everything about my dating life lol. We can't really have a serious discussion in generalities. Not everything has to be a debate, that's just one my preferred ways of communication.

Of course it is to have a serious discussion. If you want to talk about astrophysics I can give you some random thoughts I have on it(planets are cool I'm looking forward to the space exploration timeline of humanity) but I have never worked in the field nor seriously researched it. You should not take my opinions as seriously as someone who is well experienced and credible in the field. Dating and relationships are a field like any other. People can have opinions grounded in reality or delusions or in between. Which is why I find a lot of dating arguments on this forum very low level and when I push people it often times reveals that they don't have any real experience that would qualify them to have a solid opinion, they just share how they generally feel. Which is fine do that but when I question you your arguments are gonna fall apart because they're not arguments they're just random opinions that you hold. Unless you can prove otherwise and then I'm willing to have a high quality conversation on it not really even a debate. I think this is one of the most important areas of life and the more we work on it and talk about it the better our lives get. Religions have shamed sexuality and human relationships for long enough I'm tired of it. Let's make our dating experiences legendary and at the very least 10/10 if not better.

I don't think anyone should get the benefit of the doubt when it comes to optimizing for a best life. You should be able to prove that your philosophy and actions matter otherwise you're just sharing an opinion which is cheap. I don't give my own opinion credit I fact check it and test it against reality every time. Yes I want to impregnate ideally 2 or 3 women and raise a lot of kids with them. I haven't tried polyamorous dating long term yet just have a few FWBs but generally the more women I have in my life the more I enjoy it so we'll see how it goes. It's not about being top 0.01% in arbitrary areas for the sake of it. It's about maximizing the key areas of your life. Which to me are my romantic relationships, my business, my family relationships, my social relationships and my greater impact on the world. If you aren't mastering dating you're gonna have predictably mediocre results that's what mediocre means. Mediocre : Mediocre is an adjective that describes something of average or ordinary quality. It refers to something that is barely acceptable, not very good, or lacking distinction—neither particularly outstanding nor notably poor.

That makes sense I feel like I understand you better. INTJs are usually skeptical of INTP ideas because INTPs rely on intuition and leave like 30% of the plan in the air. I would just say that I think chess is solid in terms of mastering pattern recognition perhaps even logic/reasoning but I don't know that I would draw a direct parallel to it. The main categories that are generally used are wealth, health, love and happiness. You can subdivide them into a lot of things but social development is a massive category of both wealth and love. As in having strong relationships that fulfill your goals in your personal life but also in terms of your impact on society and the world. For me I'd say I became really results oriented after I became a top 0.01% challenger player in League of Legends. I was bad at the game before and then I read a forum post in like 2011 that just said most people think they are good or decent at the game and that holds them back a lot. They are actually shit at the game and when you realize that you can start to improve. That really changed my mindset because in LoL there is a victim mindset concept called ELO hell where basically people believe their team is holding them back because it's a 5v5 game but it actually makes no sense because you can have 4 bad players on your team but 5 on the other ones so if you're better than people you climb easily. I then started being an ELO booster so getting played to improve people's rankings and I thought the psychological phenomenon was very strange but it's really everywhere in real life. If you make most things a skill ladder then most people think they are way higher than they are. When I was in high school I read a lot of pickup forums and when I was 19 I started taking seriously and you see the same thing there. People think they are high value dudes and can get hot girls and then get their egos crushed when they go to the club and either can't muster up the courage to go up to a girl or even when they do they get rejected and can't even attract women they're not attracted to. The more I improved myself in that regard the cooler opportunities I got and the more obvious these concepts became to me. One that stands out in terms of status is in 2022 for my birthday my roommate that's a club promoter had a booth at rebel the biggest club in Canada and one guy took a group of hot girls brought them up on the booth and said hey this is Kyle he's a really cool dude you should makeout with him and the hottest girl in the group madeout with me within like 10 seconds. I was doing a lot of cold approach at that time and never had those results that quickly and definitely not with a girl that hot. So if you've never had a pickup journey and even if you had but haven't played around with social circle/social media and fame game you can't understand the power it has. You will have the hottest women in the world be super down to fuck you pretty quickly. So when I read guys say that it's not a real thing, or shallow or just manipulation I think they don't understand how this works and have probably never tried themselves. A lot of times you can make it pretty binary if your dream women were stuck in a closet with you would they have the time of their life or have a traumatic experience and often times the answer is obvious. So when OP talks about getting a nice decent relationship but not being satisfied with it my answer is gonna be obviously bro you gotta go on the full journey it's so worth it.

Why not? There are plenty of polyamorous couples raising kids. It has issues and sometimes people breakup but so do monogamous relationships. Its a new relationship paradigm and most people don't have the emotional intelligence for this but it totally works. An easy way to look at it is most bisexual women would at least consider the idea. Most of them are probably too jealous to make it work but if they have a pleasant time dating you and you have good conflict resolution and communication skills I think probably 25% of them would be down. Maybe more. According to Gallup 7% of women are bisexual but according to Gen-z surveys it's more like 16% which matches up to the around 19% of women that report having had sex with another woman. 25-35% of women report being mostly heterosexual as opposed to fully straight. So you'd end up like 2-10% of all women that would fit a dynamic like this. If your money is really good perhaps even straight women would be down so raise the percentage even more. That's why being in abundance is important, both to open your mind to different fun lifestyles that are possible but also even when your eyes are opened you need to be able to attract a wide number of women to screen for the ones that are most compatible for your desired life long term.

I mean those guys get a lot of attractive women. You're probably right no those particular cases because these men don't seem particularly emotionally available and doubt they worked on their emotional trauma. You can be wildly successful and still have women that deeply love you and are loyal to you. Probably many of them at once in a polyamorous setup as well. @AION A good tip is wearing stuff that stands out so women have an easy opener to talk to you. I get a lot of compliments on my necklace even though it's just a $8 one from H&M. I know this works because sometimes I want an opener to talk to a woman that I find pretty but she's not wearing something that stands out so I have to go full direct or usually just go along the rest of my day without having talked to her.

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@Hojo Here is a good reel showcasing the massive difference softmaxxing can make https://www.instagram.com/p/DZV54yPxtMB/ It's really night and day. It's silly to underestimate the massive different in results this will have on someone's life. 3-5 points depending on the guy You can go from a 4/10 that only gets attention from obese women/divorced single moms with 3 kids to a 8-9 chad that picks up women everywhere he goes.

Pretty sure if you travel and learn some game you can find about 10 of those women in like 1 month if you tried hard. Which country are you from and have you tried dating in other places? It's not gambling if you're executing a proven plan that other men succeed at. I know guys that would do this in a lets say hedonistic way and would meet 1-3 new women each day. Not that they meet all those boxes but most of them met the attractiveness one. Now for loyalty and mentally stable I would say take out 60% and have compatible lifestyle and you take out another 50% and you end up with about 5-10 new compatible candidates. Do this over a 5-6 month period in different countries and tightening your screening and you'll find an actual top tier partner. Be polyamorous and you'll have many of them. Now make some money and you can afford to settle down with all of them.

You need to buy a pickup program my brother. Finding a girl that accepts you is not the jackpot. It's the bare minimum a man should envision for his dating life and really even below that.

@integral What's your MBTI type we clearly have vastly ways of seeing the world. I like to quantify things otherwise we are talking about vague generalities with no way of knowing if we're talking about the same thing. > Out of 10 what quality of partner do you think you deserve? If you answer anything other than 10 you're low self-esteem or lazy in my books. This is a very straightforward statement. If you feel like your partner is 10/10 then you've won. Has nothing to do with what you're owed it's about the vision you have for your life. Some people have different requirements for their perfect 10 but if your suggestion is that if you find a 7/10 relationship you should be happy then you're coping. I think you should find your 10/10 woman no matter what it takes. Then you find another 10/10 and fuck them both at once. Now you're at 20/10. Now you meditate on your life journey and you are grateful that the universe has such abundant blessings, now you're feeling 30/10. Now you work on your business and make a lot of money so you date them both and impregnate them both, now you're at a 50/10. Then you create social circles all around the world so you're not limited to one city and have both more sensual opportunities but really social and business connections throughout many countries, now now you're at 70/10. Why settle for a 7/10 relationship when you can have a 70/10 one? I'm exaggerating a bit(but not really this is my legitimate goal) to paint a picture but you get the point. I'm not new to self-development I've been doing this for over a decade. I see a lot of people cope with their lack of results and then veil it with a having transcended materiality and now being a superior ascended being but rarely does that translate to actual results and is usually cope in my experience. It goes back to our conversation in the other thread that you can act like you're satisfied with your growth journey but if you're disastisfied with the world and when you analyze your life you realize that you haven't build any scale and impact to what you're doing then obviously it's spiritual bypassing. It sort of sounds like your situation, feel free to elaborate if I'm wrong. To me it's like a spiritual guru that's blessing out in cave thinking and perhaps having really transcended our reality. Still a low impact individual that's not as developed as he or she could be and if I spoke to such a Guru I would tell him the same thing.

Very cool, Europe is nice as well. I've been to France and the UK but I was a teenager so mostly played Pokemon on my 3ds. I wanna go back as an adult and enjoy what it has to offer. Have you been to Italy? I wanna check out a few of the cities here. I tried dining club events in Canada and we did a pasta challenge for a bit but we had to stop because the pasta was so bad it ruined my mood at the events trying to review it.

Cool that makes sense thanks for sharing. Are you based in India? Sorry if that's wrong I think I read you write that or somewhere else. If so that's pretty lucky it's a cool country I wanna visit soon. A lot of different big cities to try as well and Indian women are very beautiful.