LordFall

It seems I've hit on your weak spot and you feel the need to defend yourself. No need to do that, just introspect on your own shortcomings and why you feel the need to project them onto others. If you experience women as pure chaos I think that speaks more to your lack of ability to ground yourself and others as a man, and like I just said, to solve problems. I don't experience women as chaotic, I experience them as a wave that you can ride or drown under.

You need to get rid of your victim thinking mindset and your weird relationship to women brother. If you view them as sneaky adversaries that are gonna drain you of energy and resources then of course polyamory sounds like a crazy idea to you. To me women are like muses that inspire me to go to battle each day and work even harder to build a more beautiful vision for myself and them to inhabit. I just made a post on problem solving being the top skill for dating, you should read it. In my experience once you can solve a woman's problem, her frustrating issues become lifted from both of your shoulders and she reconnects with the deep joy of life that all humans have but especially particularly feminine people are good at expressing. I am a business operator so all my life is spent around solving problems and I have extensive pickup experience working on emotional intelligence and communication skills. I think most men are at best average at solving problems and a lot are clueless about it. Once you get really good at it you see the patterns between most problems. In a relationship context it's usually around needs and desires not being met and the lack of ability to communicate them and set proper expectations and boundaries especially in a polyamorous context. Walking around my castle and solving my women's and my kids' problems sounds like the best life possible to me. I would just drink coffee all day and be in my logical problem solving mindset for them and for my business and once I'm exhausted for the day I just go and relax with my people. Rinse and repeat for decades. I think I am partly uniquely suited to making a relationship like this work but I think most men could develop those same skills if they had the interest for a similar one.

Knowing myself and my personality type I think it would be interesting and entertaining for a long time. I would love to grow into my 80s with my multiple wives, kids and grandkids. In 20-30 years I will probably be managing my businesses and communities globally. Basically the same thing I do now but in more advanced stages of development. The transition towards AI labor should make it more efficient to do so it'll leave me with most of my day still hanging out with my clan at home. In my comfy ass castle that I spent 20 years making it the best estate that I could possibly imagine with my favorite people around me. I think most people have too shallow a vision for their dream life and that's what leads to a lot of divorces down the line when people get bored of each other and their kids are grown. I want people that I can hang out with and explore the perhaps infinite mysteries of the universe for a long time. If we want to take it further into speculation I think once biotech and AI medicine radically extend human lifespan I think a lot of monogamous marriages will fall apart since it was a system designed for childrearing and once the ceiling is raised relationships like the one I described will become quite standard. It will be the deathblow to religious shaming of alternative lifestyles. @Jirh I have lived with a girlfriend before and at other times was dating multiple women casually at the same time. A variation in the type of feminine energy I'm exposed to has been very fulfilling to me and an experience I would like to pursue in more depth. You seem to be close minded and projecting your limitations unto other men. Most things in life that are great were never meant to be easy. Polyamory offers unique challenges in the dating sphere but also has upsides that traditional relationships don't have.

You've repeated the exact same sentence three times now without addressing a single point. It's clear you're lecturing yourself here, don't give up on the introspection it seems more of it is required!

You don't seem to have read the message or perhaps it's a personal topic for you because you feel like you're wasting a lot of time and not getting anything done? I haven't seen you write any interesting threads about a subject that you're knowledgeable about so feel free to share value with us in that way and perhaps you'll find it a worthwhile exchange of ideas. I wrote a thread on starting a new speed dating branch of my business and I found the feedback I got to be quite useful. I do a lot in the real world but it's nice to interact with a niche of people that are different from the crowd I meet in real life and have conversations around different topics I find interesting as well as see how people here react to some of my ideas.

I would be careful of dismissing the need for community. There is no stage that is still human that cannot gain value from other humans. If you are so conscious that you don't require humans for fulfilment that is one thing but even in that case I still think 99% of it is spiritual bypassing and until you can overcome the need for eating and drinking water and other staples of life I think you're full of it and are just afraid of the chaos other humans bring. There is a lot of value that comes from stepping into a mentorship and leadership role, even if you feel you have nothing left to learn technically in a specific domain. Seeing how other react to new ideas and concepts is quite valuable.

Just watched Prometheus again last night, so good. Perfectly explores the different incentives that would underpin a space exploration quest. I'd rate it 8/10, good but not great.

If you decide in advance that anyone living outside standard monogamy is secretly traumatized or lying to themselves, you'll never see reality clearly. You’re projecting your own standard onto a dynamic that has demonstrably worked for them for nearly a decade. Obviously if you yourself would be looking to start dating multiple women at once I would tell you to be completely upfront and honest from the start and not spring it upon people. Real life is messy and couples form under all sorts of circumstances. What matters is how they communicate and work through the challenges with the people that they choose to spend their life with. The fact that they've been together for years and are all living in the same house with the kids seeming well-adjusted and happy speaks volumes to the success of their throuple. They say themselves that many of the monogamous couples they knew have already broken up by now. It's gonna be sick, I think 5 years will be a good timeline to work towards acquiring the castle but I'll start out the poly stuff next year. If my game is strong expect a poly vlog with 2 girlfriends around May 2027. https://search.savills.com/property-detail/bvi77026 Some of these properties are quite affordable so it's really gonna depend on how big I can scale the brand. Ideally I want an oceanfront estate but that pumps up the price like 5x. If I can launch my game and it's commercially successful and I manage to retain most of the equity, then I think I could do it in 5 years, even the oceanfront one. You've never seen an IP like this, I want to host real-life balls for a European aristocracy-inspired game at the actual castle I own. I think it might pay for itself at that point and I'll be in profit from purchasing the property. One step at a time though, for now winter is almost starting in Montreal and all I got to warm myself up is a very well functioning central heating system and dreams of castles in the south of France. What about you, what type of dating vision are you working on actualizing for yourself? @Olaf Awesome, if it appeals to you I think you can 100% do it. I don't believe in the right place at the right time, I believe in intentional strategies that scale over time and produce exceptional results. My dating strategy has only gotten better in the past 5 years and it's looking like the fruits are only gonna get sweeter over the next 5. I wish you the same success brother!

Yeah, that's the plan! I've dated multiple women casually at once before and it was great, so the next progression is cohabiting with two and seeing how that dynamic flows. If you watched the video, the original partner addresses that directly. They worked through that early phase together, she realized she genuinely enjoyed being around the second girlfriend, was sexually attracted to her as well, and now views her as a sister wife. They've been together for 8 years and had a full commitment ceremony. A messy origin from almost a decade ago doesn't invalidate a currently thriving family. Seems like they're managing fine with the resources they have. I'm sure any couple would like having more cashflow to afford a bigger house but reality is what it is. Personally, I'm looking at literal castles in Southern Europe to buy and renovate, so when my business scales to where it's heading over the next few years, space won't be an issue for a big household and guests. Each person has to find what works for them and what vision of their ideal relationship looks like and go for it.

Both, I also think that your body knows if you are too skinny/fat to handle yourself in combat vs having a good amount of muscle mass. It completely changes how you hold your ground and carry yourself. Women are primal and read that physical presence instantly, so neglecting your build to just rely on verbal game is playing on hard mode for no reason.

Yeah, racial preferences and fetishes are definitely a real thing in dating, both ways. Asian women really love white guys for example. I don't think it's really much to do with actual skin color more about underlying psychology based on wanting to try something taboo or dating partner that will look good look with you socially. Humans like to believe we are above this stuff but it drives most of society in all kinds of ways. But back to the dynamic, it really comes down to whether you have the presence and leadership to manage multiple personalities without everything falling apart. I don't think it's for every man but many give up on it without even trying it. Due to the surplus of undateable men there is also a surplus of single women so it's a great time to give it a go. If you're seriously working on yourself, women you encounter will deeply appreciate you for it.

I think it's not so much about can you win any fight that comes up but if you feel physiologically powerful or not. I had like 20 lbs of extra muscle a few years ago and I definitely felt way better and more grounded. Stopped working out as much when I started putting more energy into my business. When I was crushing it with great cashflow it felt so different going out and doing game.

How so? It seemed quite healthy and functional to me. Yeah I think the LGBTQ community is gonna have a lot of my type of women that are also looking for an alternative lifestyle. Some black guys are more dominant and confident and thus are more able to reach for the type of relationship they want. Not all of us but it's more common in that community than others. People of all ethnicities do it though, here is one with an all white throuple.

@Never_give_up When is the last time you worked out? It's hard to have the discipline to do it consistently, I dislike working out myself, but it's an important habit to get into if you want a peak dating life. We should have an accountability mega-thread for workouts, it would help a lot of us I believe.

$200 to my name at that point. There is a popular mentality in the pickup community that you should always keep going out no matter how your life is doing and I tried that and it was mostly stressful and not fun. I did still get laid being super broke but it took all the intoxicating stress free abundance feeling out of it. Yeah try it out and see the difference. Part of approach anxiety is not being used to talking to strangers in general but part of it is the competitive 'am I good enough to interest this woman?' aspect. The better I do in life the more I can just be carefree and charming even without regular socialization. It's insane how the subconscious feels this and calibrates, it also heavily impacts your posture. I've seen some dudes walking around with just defeated postures that seem unattractive from just the way they walk. Sometimes I even see dudes with terrible posture on transit and it seems like their girlfriends look around and make eye contact with me way more often.