LordFall

Yes your point on plausible deniability for crimes is a good one on the demons in sleep. Witch trials and getting burned at the stake as also a lot of times less about witchcraft and more about power and status games. Good example is Elizabeth Woodville a queen of England who was almost executed because her marrying the King was left field that compromised the power of his right hand man the Richard Neville, 16th Earl of Warwick. So he arrested the king Edward IV and had part of her family executed for witchcraft but couldn't get to her on time before political pressure forced him to released the king. People often got away with killing political rivals under church law by you accusing them of sorcery, black magic and witchcraft. Another interesting one is tea left reading/divination/fortune telling being used as a way to gossip and warn people about plots while retaining plausible deniability. Often times being the bearer of bad news gets you killed in and of itself but if you say that you saw a bad omen in Tea leaves then it's not easily interpreted as challenging the powers that be. Another medieval fun fact is the Catholic Church is thought to be the successor to the Roman Empire under it's improved control mechanism. Constantine I the first catholic emperor really perfected the system as one of the main ways to depose an emperor was to accuse him of tyranny and authoritarianism but all of the sudden the advent of Christianity gave the new premise of the divine mandate. The Popes in the middle ages had their armies commit all kinds of mass murders, rape and pillage. A significant amount of them were not particularly christlike at all.

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Cats are cool, one of the top creations in the universe. I feel like a cat in a human body. I think if I tried I can jump as high as a cat but don't ask me to prove it you just have to believe it.

Why would you say they're a distraction over an enhancement?

The irony here is hard to ignore, Natasha. You invoked the Dunning-Kruger effect to imply I suffer from uncalibrated overconfidence—yet when asked to demonstrate the mechanics of your own premise, you retreated into 'me telling you isn't going to provoke insight.' Using a psychological label to claim intellectual superiority, but then refusing to articulate or defend the underlying logic when pressed, is the literal definition of the dynamic you're trying to project onto me. If you have a coherent framework for why solitude inherently yields deeper truth than complex relational experience, I'm all ears and genuinely open to the model. But if the position is just 'I know something you don't, but I won't explain it,' then there's no actual substance there to inspect.

The phrase AIPAC funded campaign should be political death in 2026, hopefully the US has evolved enough recently that it becomes so.

Feel free to elaborate. By ourselves we barely exist so I'm not sure what part you disagree with. Consciousness is a phenomena that grows with exposure to reality, it doesn't thrive in isolation. I think temporary solitude to recharge or to absorb social experiences makes sense but hermits are pretty low consequence individuals that don't achieve much. Maybe they have a great relationship with themselves but they aren't very high quality partners by definition so I mean it hardly makes for an effective dating strategy.

We are part of evolution silly. Unless you aren't using a computer or phone like I am but are using a smoke signal or telepathy to write forum posts then you truly have transcended my level.

That's a shame, God made many little mini yous running around that you can also befriend and work together with to reach mutual goals and have a fun life together!

I just don't see how it applies in the situation. We were talking about relationships as a vehicle for growth and then you said that perhaps polyamory is a way to distract from our inner truth. Then you quoted my line on if we are left to our own devices we aren't much. Which makes a lot of sense to me, a human without its environment first of all cannot exist but even if it can it would have a limited experience of reality. We learn to exposure to the universe which perhaps can be called the higher self if we use non-dualistic terminology. Until we have multiple experiences with that greater self we literally cannot speak, barely think and well are limited creatures. That is why I think that over a 10 year period if one was polyamorous vs single vs in a monogamous relationship I think the polyamorous people will experience the greatest growth in inner truth and self-knowledge over the other two situations.

Yeah that's why I think becoming a high value man is so important. If you're a random dude with average value you can still do it but then I think you'll have a lot more headaches and random drama happening to you because you aren't really a source of stability or abundance you're just there and choosing to put yourself in a high complexity relationship without much to back it up. I'm bisexual. Dominating other men non sexually and sexually is quite fun. My desire for many women is separate from that but perhaps related idk psychology is deep. I think it would just be a lot of fun and growth for everyone involved. How so?

I agree to a point. I think this concept of self-knowledge and inner truth is a bit overplayed though. The self grows and reacts to outside stimulus. If we are left to our own devices then we aren't much. At best our minds just take us down interesting paths ala daydreaming but the self and the world are meant to be explored together IMO and so that's why I think the self would grow immensely through polyamory and thus it can also serve as a path of self exploration that will lead to more interesting insights than living like a hermit IMO.

I pasted your comment in Gemini and it said it's an inaccurate debunking. I think poly is a great way to explore spirituality and sense-making. You still need time to recharge and isolate as an introvert but you can do that even living in the same house and having a mancave type of thing. You learn a lot dating even one person so dating multiple gives you a breath and depth of experience and you can learn from each person's journey as well while overall being a guiding anchor. As I said I haven't tried but when I was in my more fuckboy phase I slept with multiple women in a short period of time and had multiple FWBs so I got a little preview of it. It was quite the positive educational experience but also a fun way to live life. Why would you not want to experience reality from the point of view of multiple women that love you? Seems more fun and rich than just a single one.

Yes one of their aims is to abolish the US Senate which is basically legally impossible since it needs a majority from both sides senators but overall they are a wave of positive change for the system. The US being anti-socialism is pretty cringe and only hurts most americans.

In an infinite universe with infinite possibilities, my boat will go towards the dock of multiple women at the same until I have burned through that desire which so far is only burning hotter by the day. Well I'm inspired by the post on vulnerability so I will crack open one of the skeletons in my closet which is I I do resonate with that kind of probably toxic polyamory at the moment. I don't actually mind my women sleeping with other men if I was polyamorous but my life is build on accumulating power so I will treat those men that are paramours with some kind of contempt and aim to overpower them in life so my women revolve more around me than them. I will explore this desire further and I'm curious what you guys think but I think perhaps it's healthy to a point. If I work on my business enough to get to the point of financial abundance in the future then pretty much surely the women I end up dating will end up partly financially dependent on me which is fine and I like the idea of being a provider male and I don't tend to leverage that fact over them. If there is another male in the picture then he is competition for me for my women even if it's in an agreed upon format and my women will then use my own money that I've given them in their relationship with this man which is fine to a point but I will get a lot of satisfaction from outcompetiting them and sort of cucking them in this format. We'll see if my thought on it change by the time I start poly dating next later this year or next year but I'm a very competitive person so even though I'm very open minded I find it hard to believe it won't play out in the scenario I've outlined.