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I don't think everyone needs to have a thriving romantic and social life for society to function. All the tools are here today to make you be able to build one if you so desire. The average man takes the path of least resistance as @Natasha Tori Maru rightly points out and then complains when women don't find them attractive. That's fine that's natural selection, it's always helped out species become great over time. If incels don't want to reproduce that's fine with me, I'll get rich and impregnate 5 women and if I need to knockup even more then that it will be my honour and I gladly accept the responsibility to help female-kind procreate.
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Yes offering value is the oldest influence and power trick in the book. Actually be a genuinely valuable person to know and spend time with with good communication skills and emotional intelligence. Just be careful with the way you phrased it. That's textbook nice guy syndrome and people pleasing as covert contract to get what you want. Most guys treat women with kindness and respect and get surprised when women don't want to fuck them as a result. Attraction is a science that's worth mastering.
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It's extremely exciting to live in our times. I believe Leo when he says when you reach stage turquoise you realize humanity has reached 5% of it's potential. The current societal narrative is blowing up and selling people tradition as an antidote is an very old power move to find wide ranging support bases. The first emperor of Rome Augustus used it to consolidate his power and finalize the destruction of the republic. Wait until AI UBI goes mainstream in the 2030s and people will get even more crazy as they feel as their existence is now meaningless now that they're now enslaved by cookie cutter work. Freedom is terrifying to humans because we're not used to it but it's obviously beautiful. This new right "masculinist" movement is kind of dumb because it doesn't really even preach self-improvement like the pickup movement did in the 2000s and 2010s. What good comes from demonizing female sexuality and technology? Congrats you're now an incel with no market leverage. It's beautifully ironic that a lot of the ones that preach it are hypersexual themselves and use their social media platforms to get a bunch of women and print cash from their audience that's too underdevelopped to understand what hypocrisy looks like. You can see it with hstikkytokky from the red pill netflix doc who roasted onlyfans girls calling them degenerate whores while actively building an onlyfans agency. At least he was wise enough to take a break from social media and reevaluate and life philosophy; hopefully he's wise enough to cure his own cognitive dissonance.
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It's 100% a skill issue and light narcissism. You shouldn't take this stuff too seriously in terms of internalizing shame due to being unsuccessful with women. If you're naturally good at something you'll rarely get great at it Workout, go out regularly, get some status through social media and make a list of the hottest single women in the world that are your personal 10 and make it a mission to cum in at least one of them. Enjoy sexuality, it's beautiful but when you internalize being an incel then of course giving up is gonna take a load off your shoulders momentarily. MGTOW is a thing for a reason and those guys all seem miserable and like they're coping hard lol
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BPD is a diagnosis that you fit. To qualify as such you need 5 of the 9 symptoms. So if a guy dates a woman with an intense fear of abandonment that flies into explosive rage every so often that's not qualifiable as a personality disorder but I mean you're gonna have a BPD sounding story. As well as if you combine bpd + bipolar the lifetime prevalence is more like 8%. Plus if you hang around self-development circles with guys that are the pickup kind and/or have dated a lot of women I wouldn't be surprised if it was statistically true that 30-40% of them have dated someone with BPD symptoms for a period of time. Yes you're correct that's why I mentionned they're not intrinsically evil people they have a wounded ego that deleted most of its empathy as survival response and basically creates chaos where it goes as a result. On the sadism part : "Psychologists Erin Buckels, Daniel Jones, and Delroy Paulhus led the expansion of the framework into the Dark Tetrad by demonstrating that sadism exists as a sub-clinical, "everyday" trait in the general population. They proved that sadism captures a unique motivational drive—the intrinsic enjoyment of inflicting pain or humiliation—which the original three traits could not account for. Integrating this trait was essential to understanding malevolence because it isolated active cruelty for its own sake, rather than as mere collateral damage for personal gain." If you also are familiar with the David Hawkins scale of consciousness, most humans are pretty toxic in one way or another until they reach higher states of consciousness. Doesn't mean all of us have diagnosable personality disorders but it's still helpful to recognize the signs in others and reflect on how toxic traits manifest in ourselves.
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This is such a textbook example it would be a shame not to use it to spread awareness. As someone who's dated a cluster B(bpd) woman before, it catches you by surprise and fails to follow the rules of rationality so watch out if you're a highly rational man. So Aba from AnaNPreach just had a big drama unfold in the past few months with a woman he got pregnant accidentally and then tried to break up with as she decided she didn't want to date him. What follows is a beautiful case of all 4 dark tetrad traits displayed beautifully. https://www.reddit.com/r/Destiny/comments/1t6kunw/woman_making_claims_against_aba_from_aba_and/ Thankfully for him he has recordings, text receipts and in the situation he didn't get volatile himself otherwise it could've gone much worse for him. She proceeds to completely lie about a situation where she split him(going from full in love to someone to discarding them emotionally due to perceived abandonment or slight) and then after he decides he doesn't want to deal with this and tells her to leave and books her a uber and hotel to get out of the house, she proceeds to gaslight him by saying she's not safe outside and she has no service and has to walk outside for hours in the Montreal cold. Turns out after months she rephrases that she walked to 30 mins and booked herself a hotel. She then goes on interviews with Youtubers and tells people he screamed at her and verbally abused her when he has a recording of him talking very calmy and just being fed up with her and trying to get her to leave. People high in machiavellianism are master manipulators and know how to make themselves seem like the victim in all situations. You can't usually catch them red handed so it's common for it to lead to gaslighting and mental health issues for the person being targeted since you start to believe them. She also clearly shows sadistic traits in trying to ruin his life as much as possible and going out of her way to threaten to expose him to his competing content creators and records videos with any other girl she can get to say something negative about him. Also seems like clear psychopathy in feeling no guilt in turning on him like this(for example my BPD ex didn't really do things like this she was mostly just BPD) and also a lack of long term thinking and massive pride at being slighted since publicizing this makes her look unhinged and undateable to future prospects with healthy boundaries. She has some traits of BPD like frantic irrational efforts to avoid abandonment as she booked and cancelled abortion appointments multiple times(I read somewhere up to 10) even though she didn't seem to want to date him. It's very lucky for Aba that he's quite a grounded and rational person otherwise he could easily be in jail from an incident like this. It's a good reminder that emotional regulation is one of the top skills in life and most times with severely mentally ill people you just have to leave as soon as your boundaries are crossed and do not react to the attacks that follow. Dark tetrad is very real and present in both men and women so watch a few videos on it to understand how it manifests and especially some on healthy boundary setting as that's one of the best ways to cut those types of people off early as there are always signs. It's likely that Aba has a few narcissistic traits to be attracted to someone like this, narcissistic men and BPD women are a classic combination. How it works in a nutshell is you're a bit numb emotionally so a volatile and hot woman(they usually also tend to be hotter than the women you usually get so you let your boundaries slip and/or love bomb you) and play up the damsel in distress traits and it triggers a savior complex as well as you view yourself as a smarter and more grounded man than most you think you can handle her and change her. Big mistake the BPD traits are basically a hard counter for this and it always unravels. Traits are not the same thing as a personality disorder and I believe a lot of the self-development work that's done here if done sincerely will heal those traits as they surface from a wounded and thus powerful and sneaky ego. I did for sure and I've been working since my own last relationship to work on them and heal the wounded parts of my psyche so it doesn't happen again as it's quite a traumatic experience. Also quite common for PUAs to end up with mentally ill and particularly BPD women as we have an unstable sense of self and so do they and one of the core laws of dating is you do not attract what you want, you attract what you are. Dark Tetrad people aren't usually born evil, there is a clear genetic component but it's trauma based and it turns the ego into survival machine that's willing to do whatever it takes to get its egoic needs met(which aren't always rational. As I said before, psychopaths lack long-term thinking skills and impulse control; because they don't feel fear or the weight of consequences like a regular person, they're actually terrible in business.) Machiavellians are really the ruthless CEO archetype. Feel free to share if you've also had experiences with dark tetrad individuals as it's quite common and not talked about enough I believe.
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Why do you care what they think?
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It impacts a lot. First of all if you're an investor(you should be) your gains and losses are gonna be heavily impacted by what you invest in. Even if you're not though an AI bubble crash impacts the average person in a few different ways. If you're in tech then there's gonna be massive layoffs, AI products are gonna become way more expensive and for retirees their pension payments are gonna go down. Also depends if that crash is accompanied by geopolitical events like a war around Taiwan which would send the cost of living through the roof for everyone globally.
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AI has already completely changed my life and my ability to plan and reason. It's helped my emotional development since now everytime I have an emotional outburst or overwhelmed with something I journal about it and just input it all into Gemini. It's also allowed me to start my own worldbuilding project that I will hopefully turn into a VR MMO one day, it's helped me with the art generation which I never would've been able to afford on my own. My next step is to start implementing AI agents to have active labor 24/7 on my behalf, super excited for that. I think you're perhaps using it the wrong way or just throwing out the baby with the bathwater in terms of when it makes mistakes.
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Admitting that a complex system(reality) is hard to predict is one thing. Lacking the ability to see where things are going and make predictions that you can test against the future is just anti-intellectualism though. We have flying cars today they just don't make sense to adopt at scale. Artificial intelligence makes sense to adopt at scale. It's already beaten the top humans in most linear fields. Already all human research is starting to include AI and soon enough it'll be mostly AI with some human supervision. Machines always beat human they are made for efficiency, humans are made for consciousness and experiencing things. It's two different facets of existence. Idk why this concept of human intelligence being surpassed is so insulting to people, @Leo Gura hates the very concept as well. I think it's the name, it's more accurate to call it Masterpiece Intelligence than artificial. It's literally taken out most intelligent researchers and thousands of them over decades with billions of funding to come up with it. Why wouldn't it be smarter than us? I think it's quite exciting and will only extend our capabilities.
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LordFall replied to Monster Energy's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
Well the true answer is that girls are just people and they want to participate in the attention economy like anyone else. Now they're exposed to it through social media whereas before they weren't. It's probably not healthy though so I'm curious to see when the data on the widespread social media bans for under 16s is gonna come out in a few years if it was good for their mental health to have it banned. I do think teenagers should have some media literacy to be prepared for the marketplace side of it in terms of business and content production but the downsides are definitely troubling and it seems the data currently points to it being negative for most. -
I'm going to revise my predictions and the overall title of this thread since I do change my mind and that an AI crash or at least correction is coming. Scenario A is most likely gonna play out sometime this year if the Iran war isn't fully stopped or Taiwan escalation happens. Even if there is a temporary 1 week naval blockade of Taiwan its gonna crash the AI stocks and the people invested in them are gonna lose money. AI is gonna thrive, succeed and change the world I believe but a temporary correction seems probably. Finance is quite complicated I won't pretend to understand it fully. Mostly trying to learn and investigate this situation with you guys. There's a pretty good video on it.
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Si tu le voit choses comme ca je dirais que la plupart des gens se mettent en couple pour se construire le style de vie auquel ils aspirent, donc je ne vois pas le probleme. Je recommende au gens d'utiliser toutes les dating apps a la fois sa rend les choses plus rapide.
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Yes that's a good point usually they approach with choosing signals and making themselves available.
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I've been going through another awakening lately that was triggered by my 30 day challenge and I noticed that men basically always react to eachother on the street. If you walk confidently you will notice that you will either puff up more or shrink down/move out of the day depending on which guy you see on the street and how much of threat you peg him at. I first noticed it years ago while taking shrooms at a club but humans are basically screaming at eachother 24/7 through body language, it's quite mesmerizing once you tune into it. So really the odd that you trigger another dude especially if you make eye contact and don't back down is quite high, much more that said random dude would go to the point of harassing/assaulting a woman. Robert Greene talks extensively about body language in the 3r chapter of the laws of human nature, highly recommend that book.
