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This is your take after reading the way of the superior man? Have you read it or just read a summary and made up a conclusion about it? The book itself is quite great. Not foolproof but definitely higher quality than most of the masculinity discussion on the internet.

Dope followed you. Yes IG is pretty good with recommending similar followers. I would say at the start don't overthink it too much. Try to make one post each day until you have 18 posts(3 post per line and grid is about 9 posts so 2 full grids). Ideally a few reels if you can work yourself up to it but if they're just pictures, stories and carrousels for now that's fine. You can always archive posts that you don't like or that don't perform according to your goals later down the line. Now get into the habit of adding everyone you meet or know on Instagram. It's more powerful than getting their phone numbers and they will become the start of your own online community. Some girls I talked to 5 years ago still watch my Instagram stories sometime. If you don't know that many people go to meetup events in your city related to activities you care about then add them on Instagram and ask if they're part of any cool group chats, bonus points if they're local chats. That's basically Instagram 101 102 would be figuring out a vertical that you wanna make content in and making reels a few times a week so you get new people to follow you that you haven't met in real life. Then creating your own group chats. Instagram is about creation, connecting and consuming. Use the consumption aspect to find what you would like to do/create. People get stuck on mindless consumption but if you make it mindful then its quite powerful. Open an obsidian and save any reel that appeals to you. If they're hot girls that you wanna date add it to your girl bucketlist page. If it's a group of guys going on vacation in Monaco on a super yatcht add it to your travel bucketlist. If it's someone doing something funny that you could recreate, save it to your video ideas folder. The key lesson is what one person can do, another one can as well. Baring very specific niches like getting into a tight industry like the NBA basically anything else you can achieve within a few years. I used the monaco example because I wanna sail accross the mediterean myself on a big superyacht with a bunch of girls on it. I've done it in Toronto but not on a superyacht yet and I wanna rent it for a few weeks and stay/work on it. It's been on my bucketlist for 3 years now I think, getting close should be able to do it by 2028 hopefully.

Appreciate it bro, feel free to follow me I'll follow you back. Instagram is a great way to build community, gain status and you can eventually use it as a dating app. Highly recommend everyone use social media as an extension of their dating strategy. Yes a lot of men are put off by high agency women, it's easier if a woman is docile and lacks real world experience. They also worry about women that use sex to avoid emotions so if they get into a fight the guys fear that they'll go fuck an ex or some random dude(it does happen for sure) but I mean it can equally be true that a woman that has had a decent amount of partners will appreciate your unique qualities more. I've also heard that virgins can take you for granted since you've all they've experience of the male species so I think it's a pretty silly ideology. Yes attachment theory is important to understand otherwise you just replicate unhelpful dynamics over and over again. You can be secure in your attachment and still enjoy seduction and romance, perhaps it'll lead you more down the polyamory side though or full monogamy for those that enjoy that.

I think that if you approach your pickup journey in a traditional cold approach way instead of making female friends and an overall social circle that aligns with your goals and values then it's easy for me to see how that would lead to a lack of fulfillment. It's normal to take a break from dating and sex to focus on other goals, I've done that myself. I think you're perhaps spiritually bypassing. It's easy to find think that sex is a low consciousness activity but it doesn't have to be so. Dating and sex can lead to greater intimacy and empathy which can then lead you to connect with human beings overall and thus be a powerful leader that then leads back towards community and business. Tier 2 has to do with holism and systems thinking. If you're gonna challenge me on that point feel free to elaborate on your understanding of Stage yellow and beyond and how it conflicts with what I've said. Bounding with your fellow human beings and maximizing reality is an extremely high value thing to do. Most people engage in low value coping based relationships that don't serve their deeper goals though so the are a similar activity conducted in a lower consciousness way. It's easy to conflict the two but they are very different. An easy litmus test is there are people you can hangout with that the more you hangout with them the more chaotic and dysfunctional your life will be. People that chase hedonism and have an alcohol addiction are an easy example. If you hangout with them 100 days in a row your life will literally collapse to the point of losing your job, going homeless, going to jail, etc. There are others that if you hangout with them for 100 days in a row you will be very fulfilled and happy. Intentional communities, entrepreneurship minded people, people that value health and fitness, etc. You can separate this from dating and sex but they can be very connected if you build your life intentionally around pursuits that you value and people that embody that. Which is the difference between stage orange vs stage yellow pickup.

Having sex with escorts is alright, your own girlfriend is way better though. Then you can cuddle also which in some ways is better than sex. I will try it with two girlfriends and report back. It's also fun to fuck in different place its a different feeling each time. The woods feel very primal even if it's not comfortable.

Which one of his points do you think I misunderstood? If someone is not comfortable with sexuality and doesn't wish to get over that discomfort and thus raise their bodycount then that's their life I don't really care. For me sexuality is thrilling, fulfilling and an exciting adventure so I have pursued plenty of partners in the past and plan to pursue many other sexual connections. Increasing bodycount is just a consequence of that, it's not really the concept that's worth getting stuck over. I'm not really into one night stands so for me building a polycule is the next logical step in my life. I aim to date a few bisexual women and travel the world with them and sleep with women all around the world. I'm also bisexual myself so perhaps that's another key to this discussion, I'm more comfortable in sexuality than most people. I'm just starting to explore that side of life so far it's been a good time!

Absolutely. Where do you live? If you live in a mid sized or big city you should try that newbie challenge I linked and go out almost everyday to talk to new women and in a few months you won't recognize the social skills you now possess.

Because I'm injecting consciousness and development in the discussion which is obviously lacking. Leo mostly did pickup from that solely cold approach stand point and he seems to have hit a wall in the type of women that he managed to integrate into his life. He should also come at it from a more stage yellow integral perspective and I believe he will have much more success. I agree that deep relationships are key which is why I find that the social circle model much way better in achieving fulfillment in your relationships, romantic and otherwise. I'm getting my long term friends to follow this and come to my events as well. There was a lot of resistance at the start but they seem to be enjoying it now and helping me scale them in an interdependent way which is great. A friend of mine helped me on a podcast I did in Calgary and another hosted an investment event with me and before I moved cities we started going out again regularly which was a lot of fun and pushed my own boundaries in the process. I actually am not really a cold approach guy and there's still a lot of development I find doing it. Part of it is self-esteem and proving to myself that I am worthy of talking to the hottest women I find and they seem to be more and more into me the further in my journey I get so it's quite healing and gratifying to pursue.

Your position is obviously quite shallow. Feel free to input your own thread into an LLM and I'm sure it'll point out the shortcomings in your viewpoint. I'm not a psychologist but usually when someone projects that everyone else must have shallow and toxic relationships that's more a reflection of their own life than a truthful view of reality. Obviously there's some truth in what you said but half-truths are some of the most dangerous generalizations you can make.

Yes there is something wrong in the way you do pickup and that's why you're not fulfilled with it. That's my claim and I've explained my reasoning behind it. You seem have a dense ego with how you refuse to admit your shortcomings and stick to your position even when presented with evidence that invalidates it so I don't think you're very coachable which is another reason why you're stuck in your journey. Yes I've followed Leo since he posted that rant against PUA videos 10 years ago which is why my game was built with depth to avoid the pitfalls he pointed out in it. I'm thankful to him for that, it was a great video. If you find meaning and fulfillment in your life outside of relationships then more power to you. Feel free to share what's worked for you since you gave them up.

Not at all. He admitted himself that his form of pickup was spam approaching women on the street. This is is a low form of pickup and seduction. I'm not surprised it lead him to not find fulfilment or satisfaction in it. He literally projected on me that everyone does stage orange pickup since he did it. I've already explained last page what is a better way to go about it. What I described is like stage yellow game as it is based on holism and not quick sex. The best way to think of it is viewing your dating life and social circle as an extension of another and looking at it more in terms of farming than hunting. Meaning that you're basically creating a fertile oasis for everyone to benefit and then finding the women that are particularly into you from there and dating one or many of them depending on what you're into. For example I'm in the creative industry and host photoshoots with models, photographers, content creators, influencers, etc. A lot of attractive women in that industry obviously. I've hosted events now in Toronto, Calgary and Kelowna around it. I'll be doing it over the summer in Montreal. I own accounts and group chats in each city around it now with hundreds of people in them. I help the women(and the men as well) with their creative goals and give them content help and give them tips on finding sponsors and monetizing their brand. https://www.instagram.com/creatives_toronto - This is one of my accounts for example You see how this is much more holistic than just cold approaching women on the street? I'm a logical guy so I spend my time thinking about business, marketing, finance, etc. So might as well share that knowledge with other people that usually don't find reading books about those topics interesting. I have spent the last 4 years hosting events around it. They're quite fun and it's fulfilling for me to learn how to make cooler and bigger events and travel to different cities to do so. I hosted a fashion show in Calgary last year for example. If you go with this strategy you must utilise the sowing vs reaping principle meaning that you provide people in your community/social circle genuine value and good times and don't just use it as a cheap ploy to get laid. I used to hangout with club promoters and dating coaches a lot in Toronto and this is my own version of this funnel. I've gotten laid many times from social circle game, it's a much funner way to date than just cold approach or online dating as you're also friends with the women you date and over time you get access to way more attractive women than you would just being a random guy on the street like it seems Valach was saying he burnt out doing. Every man has different interests and skillsets and thus their setup will look different but for me the creative industry makes a lot of sense and is quite fun to be around. I talk about it more in this thread if you guys are curious

You can do pickup from any stage from purple to turquoise. If you do it from stage orange that's on you. Do not project your lack of success unto others, it's the furthest thing from the truth my friend.

A lot of pickup teachers have unhealed emotional issues, in that situation it's quite hard to find fulfilment but it's not too far away. A bridge that's 80% built is 100% useless but it's not that far off from working as intended. Introspection on true desires and not societal expectations pushed on us is mandatory but once you do that I'd say for most guys getting some cool women into their life is gonna take care of a lot of their issues. Especially in the format that I've outlined above. I have worked with clients to help them build this out for themselves in different cities across Canada. I don't do it widely yet but this is when I met Mystery in Toronto through one of my clients that hired him as well.

I'm sorry you had an unfulfilling time with your dating journey. My best advice would be to combine it with your overall life purpose as well as social circle. When you have women that help you reach your goals and you help them reach theirs instead of just prowling the streets for a vagina to fuck; the game changes completely. Women are your comrades in reality and they are also looking for great adventures to embark on and have to face the difficulties of the marketplace and business world. If you're the man to solve that for them I guarantee you that fulfillment will be the least of your worries.

I think it's extremely rare for someone to have truly mastered dating and intimacy and to have built a phenomenal dating life. It happens but it's easily less than 10% of people. It's a shame because it's one of if not the the sweetest aspects of reality.