LordFall

What do you mean by not allowing yourself to sleep with them? Like you don't know how to escalate or you have a mental block around it? It is fun but you need to structure systems in your life around it otherwise it's a waste of time and other areas of your life will lag behind. Which is why these guys start businesses where they go around the country and get paid to practice talking to girls and teaching other dudes about it.

Not enough bro. This year has been involved a lot of forced restructuring for me. Last year I made much more money but I was dependent on one main client that was paying me $5k/month and then we changed the format to be a pay per event contract which switched me from being an hourly worker to only working when I wanted to but having to deliver on hosting real world events for him which cut my income by about half. I moved back with my dad to cut my expenses and restructure my cashflow so its not dependent on working in hours and lets me acquire multiple clients that I can fulfill with a reasonable amount of work hours and enjoy life. By Q4 of this year it should start paying off and by next spring I should be able to travel and start to live the live I talked about here.

I don't know why people call it sleeping like a baby, they are notorious terrible sleepers. New parents average 4-5 hours of sleep in the first year of their newborn being alive. I don't think you understand how well I'm gonna sleep with my robot butler taking care of that little mini me on top of hiring an actual maternity nurse to soothe the journey. Also think about it if you got 3 women in a polyamorous setup and they raise your kids together then each women both has friends all the time with them to make it less stressful and boring and also each women has to do less chores by herself and has more energy and time to spend on you while you're done taking care of the business and the kids are sleeping and now you got your women for the evening. Sometimes people paint this caricature of money and game like wanting to only drink from 24 karat gold glasses or only picking up women from a Lamborghini; that's not really the idea. For example for that maternity nurse to help with first year of raising a kid that's about $7-10K/month. If you don't want to pay another woman to raise your kid and just want your wife to be able to be a stay at home mom depending on the cost of living in your area you easily need a $200k+ salary to afford that and a decent quality of life IF NOT MORE LIKE 300-400K. You guys know how people on this forum are like OMG I've awakened to God I can do anything life is a dream! That's basically how rich people live. They solve most of their actual mechanical problems with real solutions but that's expensive. I don't really aim to live like a low or middle class person long term if I don't have to, there's literally no point it's painful and boring for no reason. I don't know who knows what my actual marriage will look like 10 years from now but I'm looking forward to it. I've always been a romantic I love being in a relationship but it needs to be the right one, I learned all I didn't like from my ex so I'm building my life to avoid the same pitfalls in the meanwhile. What about you, what are your current dating bottlenecks and what type of monthly action are you taking towards achieving your dream dating life?

How so?

Well obviously both is the goal. If you have a girlfriend that likes women why not go and fuck other hot women together? As well as experience the many beautiful places the world has to offer? I think if you do a lot of meditation and consciousness practice during this process you can actually destroy your own hedonic adaptation whereas usually people that do this get tired of it after a while. I got my mind to the point where I have crushes on women just like when I was a teenager but even while having slept with a lot to the point where a lot of guys are usually jaded at this point. I think that's the best gift you can give yourself, find multiple women you have crushes on, date them all together, travel the world, build a great business so you all get rich together, contribute to the social causes you care about and leave your mark on humanity. That's the good life. Why would anyone settle for anything less than that? That makes no sense to me.

Wait til you find out about femboys and trans girls. Oh boy. Why do you get angry when surrounded with luxury? You feel like you're a slave to the environment and have to be unauthentic to belong and it angers you? I get that I'm an INTP so I get fun figuring out systems and creating my own. Standing on a yacht is way more fun to me than standing on grass. There is content potential, capacity limits, you invite too many girls so just the right amount show up, all the girls are in bikinis and perhaps we'll find a good excuse to get people off their phone and swimming into the water, jet skis, boat barbecue, yacht tie up parties, lake drone footage, fucking in the cabin, etc. What on earth are you experiencing in the park? I want to take two girls with me to go work in a cabin by a lake here. I think it would be very fun to be out of the city and relaxing with a sauna and body of water and just chill smoke weed, fuck, read books, etc. Not even a luxurious cabin but a nice comfy spot for just one week, which is really not enough but is a good start. That's $2200 not covering gas, food and missing work so really more like $3500. I can experience all of this with the hottest women on the planet and you're trying to sell me walks in the parks with Sally from the neighbourhood. Once again I think you're insane my friend or perhaps I have been ruined by seeing abundance up close so I can't really go back to living a mediocre life.

You should, achieve your best life. Cultural analysis is quite hard at the moment, the next 20 years of human history are gonna be a cluster fuck of different dynamics intersecting. You say demographic crises I say AI automation and biological immortality taking our species to way greater and more exciting heights than we've ever experienced before. I think it's much easier to focus on our own lives than try to call what different cultures and societies are gonna do. Personally I'm in that boat where I'm maximizing my status and SMV as much as possible and not settling down anytime soon. I think this is a great strategy, many people in the past were forced into unsatisfactory marriages due to societal pressures to settle down. I doubt I'll have kids before 38-40 and perhaps with multiple women depending on how my polyamorous experiences develop.

Well what is your life purpose or your ideal life? If you aren't anywhere close to living your desired lifestyle then I think a lack of satisfaction is expected. If you are forced to socialize with people that you don't really build connections with then you can be caught in a real catch-22 situation. What type of people do you wanna work with? Network with? Date? You can develop a steady meditation practice to become more and more satisfied with the present moment but even then you just learn to appreciate and really tolerate circumstances that you do not desire. So what do you desire and are you achieving weekly and monthly successes towards those goals or not?

Totally agreed. To keep growing you have to do a few challenging things each month and keep pushing your boundaries. I move cities often so I've seen friends that stagnated and stopped growing and it's pretty sad to see. I experience when someone has been stagnating when they have nothing to talk about. They aren't into business so they don't have any cool projects they're working on. Not really an intellectual so don't follow politics or the economy. Not really socially relevant so they don't know any interesting interesting about people in the city. I don't know how to communicate with people like this. Sometimes they are at least good at talking about themselves so they ramble on and I doze off but sometimes they are bad at conversation and give one word answers and then it becomes truly awkward.

Why don't you have a phone there? There's no service or it's part of the culture to disconnect? That sounds like a cool aspect of it, digital detox is important once in a while for sure.

Got it, apologies I misunderstood. I thought you were shaming him for opening up about his dating life. @AION What do you mean younger women are super open, gen z is like the most self-aware generation in history. I think they have high standards when dating and especially the women don't have tolerance for a man randomly venting or trauma-dumping for no reason and not having his life figured out. That's fine, that's why we have a self-development forum! To figure out all our issues, level up far beyond the masses and date all the hot girls happily ever after.

You don't believe in hot alien girlfriends? How typical.

Quite the contrary. The fact that honest conversation is relegated to the realm of therapy as opposed to being how people interested in self-development talk to each other is insane to me. Honest sharing of real difficulties is how real progress is made. More like a mastermind and less like a forum for trolling, coping and posting nonsense. Why would a dating section on a self-development forum aim to be any different? There is a guy that keeps replying to me with replies of other random dating coaches instead of his lived experience. I'm about to stage an intervention for him and ask him to fully open up on his life and why everything he says is regurgitated from another man and hopefully it turns into an open format therapeutic conversation. This is how we learn and grow; by being able to be vulnerable in sharing shortcomings met with understanding and productive challenge, not with comedic relief and avoidance. What exactly makes you uncomfortable about it?

Bro that's actually so fucking funny lol. Isn't that crazy though? He shoulda put a life-sized cutout of his favorite pornstar next to it. Homeboy is lucky he grew up in the generation before Instagram because nowadays girls can just DM these celebrities and get flown out to fuck them. That's part of why the pickup movement got co-opted by Redpill/Looksmaxxing because when cold approach was being developed in the 90s and popularized before the 2010s the world was still local. It has since become global and hot girls in our cities think of their dating market as global not just you and the other dudes that she knows in that town. I love it, as an intellectual using my brain to get laid is much more fun than cosplaying as an extrovert to pull a girl from cold approach. It's why I was always drawn to social media and online dating game because when you figure out what works then it's immediately obvious when you see the other men hitting their head on invisible walls while you get rewarded with tight pussy as an evolutionary reward.

Haha I go back and forth between thinking that life is perfect and if it was any easier the juice would be ruined to fuck can the difficulty level please be toned down a bit. Cognitive biases are why it's so hard. The mind wants to be comfortable. Having an extraordinary life is not comfortable. The stuff that is taught also needs to be cutting edge because that's what gives you abundance. You have to quantify results to achieve them so a lot of guys also don't know what they want. If someone just wanted one girl to like them and want to date them, as was sort of my goal when I started then that can be achieved after 1-2 years of self-development. Once you see behind the curtain and learn about pickup, social circle/status and entrepreneurship and you realize that there is only friction stopping you from achieving any wild dream you have; life becomes exhilarating. A lot of guys too much ego to succeed. Becoming a student of life and the systems that govern it takes a lot of humility. It means that each time you think you figured it out you have to lot let yourself bask in certainty and leave a big spot open for new strategies and insights. Even on this forum I see so many guys certain of stuff I know for a fact makes no sense or doesn't work. I don't know if it's a non-dual thing like everyone wants to feel like God and if some other dude teaches you a better way it invalidates the juice(I do feel like that sometimes) but it stops a lot of people from overcoming simple problems that's for sure. There is the blueprint for amazing stuff out there though. If someone combines the game and cold approach basics from I mean many sources now to the scaling potential that social media game and social circle offers then there is truly no upside cap. It only takes effort and also the 10x rule is very true and painful in my experience. Your goals and dreams are possible but it's gonna take 5x the amount of time energy and effort to achieve them than you first thought and probably more like 10x.