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People will burn someone down socially for a mere accusation, trials are when actual facts start coming out. Until then it's jus pitchforks from bored or bitter people IMO. I don't find him cringe personally. Bizarre for sure but I mostly find him quite brave. He's the closest thing to a king of incels. He clearly has behavioural and social issues but he had the courage to keep streaming and made it. Compare him to all the dudes that never have the courage to put himself out there or worse like Elliot Rodgers who hurt people due to their own pain. He's truly odd and it's interesting to see him go on mainstream platforms and say the weirdest shit and own it and people clearly enjoy how authentic he is. Think about how many dudes think way worse things than him but don't have the courage to platform themselves. Someone like Tate has a vengeful and powerful hungry willing to do anything streak. He proudly boasted about scamming both the the women that worked for him as camgirls and the clients that paid the cam girls and built his own empire. Doesn't seem to have any deep values apart from an anger against society and a drive to power. Clavicular seems to be a more mild character who just wanted to have social success and is proud to showcase his newfound status to his audience. I haven't watched that much of his content only a few hours but that's my $0.02 armchair psychology reading on the guy. Also he's shown clear signs of wisdom for example staying out of politics and saying he doesn't understand it and due to his large platform he doesn't want to influence people the wrong way. Once again compare him to Tate who will do anything to gain more relevance and loves to deepthroat Trump. I don't heard Clavicular being really hypocritical but Tate rebranding himself as a devout muslim and man of God to me screams the Devil pretending he's the good guy and inverting logic to manipulate fools. I don't think rape makes sense for his character since he doesn't seem that bitter and power hungry so I lean towards him being set up and once again I could be wrong.

Same! I listen to like 20 songs mostly over and over and occasionally find a new one to add to the mix. Your song is cool, it has a satisfying groovy bassline to it. Reminds me a lot of this track—has that same atmospheric, sacred choir element mixed with the distortion:

Good call gentlemen, just made one. Yeah I think it's unavoidable that some people have a bigger advantage than others in this transition. I think overall it seems that the right conversations are happening both in terms of AI alignment driven by the AI doom camp and also the AI wealth inequality discussions championed by people like Sanders. Also Xi Jinping is in the US as we speak to avoid AI World War 3 happening due to Thucydides trap so let's not count our eggs too soon but perhaps we are in the best timeline after all

After the discussion on AI in the AI bubble thread, @Joshe suggested we start a thread discussing more specifically AI applications in a business context. @something_else had good insight on a business model based around being a context-engineering agency that customizes frontier models for specific enterprise applications which indeed sounds like it would be quite profitable. I don't really have a technical background so my main use case will be to use agentic solutions to build a cutting edge CRM that automates outreach and prospect followup for my existing services. Feel free to discuss either of these applications or brainstorm/share other ways you can think of to use AI to make money! It's great to talk about the philosophical and political implications of the AI revolution but keeping things practical and actionable will give us all way more value and experience in the field.

I guess strive is a word I trapped myself with, I think you are wrong on this idea. Most people do not work to build the assets necessary to build agency and ownership in the world. They pay their bills then distract themselves. They do not work towards owning cashflow businesses or other solid assets. At best they will match their employer's contribution to their 401k and a low percentage will ever learn proper investing. Financial ownership has a definition, it means to own assets and not solely liabilities. Someone can learn how AI agents work and use them each day to build value. Someone can customize open-source models for specific business workflows. It doesn’t take a master's in machine learning to do that; you can learn fine-tuning and agent integration from tutorials and documentation in a few hundred hours. I myself considered before to get into the business of selling custom AI models to small and medium enterprises and will revisit this idea next year, it's an extremely lucrative and future proof niche. People do not provide equal value to the marketplace and most communists waste their time with intellectual narcissism instead of solving problems. I've gone to many communist discussions and even private meetings and I met a bunch of smart and dedicated people who waste their time complaining about society and cannot feed even 1 other person outside of themselves. They'd rather talk about the evil bourgeoisie than start an organization that helps their neighbourhood, city or the world as a whole. No I'm taking this conversation out of the realm of philosophy and into the real world. If you can snap your fingers and make it so everyone on earth owns AI equally tomorrow Friday September 25th 2026 that would probably be a good thing, please do that. If you are a basic human like the rest of us I suggest you simply use the AI tools at our disposal to up-skill yourself for your future benefit and that of your loved ones just like I am doing and any other rational and motivated person I know is doing.

I got pretty depressed when I was dating my last girlfriend because it was a chaotic and toxic relationship. Some great times but it was fundamentally not getting me towards the life I wanted to live. I think it sounds simple but is deceptively deep but you have to flesh out the life you want and then achieve it. That's what will make you happy. Having a girl that you like hanging out with and that you fuck often will probably be part of that life but not the only thing that will make your existence great.

There are different parts to loneliness. What you mentioned about your friends is more about not being valued for what you have to offer than lack of people around you. Plenty of men with girlfriend/wives are not valued for what they have to offer and therefore feel lonely even in a relationship. What do you have to offer? What are your interests and skills? The best way you can solve this loneliness aspect IMO is post about it on social media and you'll start to get hundreds of views right away and soon enough comments about your interests. Now you have a way to express what you care about to a global audience that you can make a community out of, just like this one. Still get then girlfriend but going at this quest from a place of offering value and leverage is way better than "Nobody wants to talk to me, im lonely pls date me." I don't know what country you're from and if dating apps are viable there, please elaborate. Maybe that will work or maybe your best bet is to save like $5000 and move to South East Asia, the dating is pretty easy there.

@Sugarcoat Agreed, it's commonly used for a reason, it's catchy and maybe with the lack of lyrics you get bored of it slower idk. What's your favorite tracks?

Totally. He's also quite rude and makes $15,000 USD a day. I've met a lot of women in the nightlife industry that would make false claims in a heartbeat if they thought they could get some money out of it or I mean I'm sure some do it just to put down a dude that seems on top of the world. He could also be guilty but I'm providing the alternative explanation.

@oOo Demanding that everyone uncritically accept your self-assigned Stage Coral label while declaring any external evaluation "manipulative" is the exact definition of a closed ego loop. When high-stage claims can't survive basic inquiry or produce a single tangible real-world purpose, the diagnosis writes itself.

What are the odds that it's real vs someone looking to get revenge, attention, money out of him? I guess we'll find out more as the case progresses. Andrew Tate had a slew of evidence from multiple rape allegations. Clavicular hasn't had anything come out.

Yeah I think you're probably correct. @oOo Even in your "serious" breakdown, claiming you embody Coral while defining your relationship to Red with "though I could kill you" is a textbook example of the Pre/Trans Fallacy. It’s unintegrated ego borrowing high-altitude vocabulary, which is why when challenged, you instantly retreated into surrealist jokes and are still not answering simple questions about your real world activities and life purpose. When a person tends to deflect and hide behind irony and abstractions, it's usually because their real-world grounding can't support the weight of their spiritual claims.

How do you reconcile that with human will and especially in the future? Let's say in the next 1 year we face the possibility of Russia using a nuclear weapon in the Ukraine war. Unfortunately it seems like that's our timeline. It could or could not happen. Which path is God's will? Which part is Vladimir's Putin will? God doesn't make mistakes or is willing to accept everything and ultimately from it's position it doesnt matter? If you get in a car crash and you have infinite money and can't get injured I still think the car crash was a mistake, you just don't have the ability to suffer consequences. Yes I've heard him say some of that stuff before. I'm testing if you are regurgitating the content or if you've thought about it yourself and came to the same conclusions. I don't mean to offend you by pushing you on your statements. It's an interesting topic to deconstruct.

I think he's awake, it's only like 6 pm in Vegas right now. I guess in your view it means that you are always polite and never angry? If enlightenment is the realization that you are the whole universe and not just a sole human, why would that lead to perfect emotional mastery? I think it would certainly be a part of it but it seems like an outer layer of the onion. What about very calm people who don't really get angry and condescending ever, are they automatically enlightened? It's worth questioning but I think your argument against Leo is circumstantial at best.

Connection is not always a useful mode of operation. Conflict oftentimes has higher ROI than seeking connection with an incompatible being. Conflict can also force alignment, it's a misunderstood way of interacting with reality. It's one of the most successful biological strategies for a reason.