LordFall

What about incels in their basement with a job that don't wipe their ass like you said in the other thread. Are they well on their way to finding their perfect partner that won't use them? Or could it be that the other game involves a value exchange with others? Life is mostly boring and painful, you being a well put together man and having surplus resources, energy and time is gonna alleviate the suffering of the people that are in your life romantic or otherwise. The animal kingdom is the same way, peacocking in literal peacocks is a sign of value as it shows they can survive predators and the environment and thus would be good mates for females. How is your own dating life and business/career going? Seems that you're bypassing possibly because you don't feel up to par? Feel free to share and we can help you fix some blindspots perhaps. We all have some it's part of life.

Which part doesn't make sense to you? A 700 lbs dude is an extreme example not really worth addressing. I basically explained why softmaxxing makes sense here. Most men do not maximize the features of themselves that would be considered looksmaxxing. It's a great enough proportion that people have argued enough about it that's its on the wikipedia. Some people take it into a neurotic level and refuse to take action and because pickup and redpill are now outside the overton window the hardmaxxing part of looksmaxxing has surfaced in mainstream media because it's shocking to people. Shocking stuff makes for easy headlines. Dude smashes his face with hammer and gets famous vs 30% of men aren't dressed and groomed optimally nor workout enough.

No now you're projecting because your ego is hurt that I called you out on it. It has to do with improving your appearance to attract people. Stuff that is surgical is generally considered the hardmaxxing portion of lookxmaxxing. It's literally on the wikipedia.

What form did the disaffection take? Was it more like she wasn't helping you fulfill your goals or just in general you didn't enjoy her presence? I loved having a girlfriend last time I had one but she was BPD and made my life a nightmare so when I was with her I wished I was single but it wasn't the experience of having a woman in my life in and of itself that was lacking; that part was awesome. I think your instinct is correct that recentering yourself and knowing yourself better will answer a lot of the questions. Having an exploration phase afterwards makes a lot of sense especially if you've only dated that girl and she's your main reference point for women. You say you don't want kids now but later right? That makes a lot of sense. A lot of the world is stuck in an enforced monogamy framework where any dating has the implication of long term relationship and kids but that's a bit silly. There's nothing wrong with sharing your life with someone for a few months/years and then going apart. FWBs are great for that I had a few since my breakups. It lets you experience women and see what you like and dislike in a partner without the pressure of going all in. For example for me I disliked having FWBs where the woman was working on goals that were too separate from mine. It felt our lives were siloed or just being independent and then just getting together to fuck, hangout but working on different missions. Especially as an intellectual if I don't understand her pursuits and think on it with her I felt very disconnected from them even when that was the case with my 1 year GF. So for me developing general business skills/the money that would help my partner(s) achieve whatever goals they have is very important. @Hojo You're literally making things up, this is part of the community and the term. Google/AI it. I dislike when you butt in topics that you have no knowledge of, to me it feels very egotistical and like you're wasting my time writing stuff that has no substance. Especially with some certainty on things you clearly don't understand.

Thank you my friend. What does an ideal dating life look like for you? Clarity helps so much I find, the more I define mine the more my brain irons out the patterns to make it happen.

What you're talking about is very esoteric, it's hard to make sense of. Can you share some of your journey so we can better understand what you mean?

Both, they're pretty similar. A market is an interplay of wants and needs being met for a certain price. For someone to date you they are spending their spare time on you so you need to be valuable for them. The degree to which you wanna please people and who you wanna please is up to you my friend. Self-awareness is figuring out what you want and what's gonna get you there. I like sleeping with hot women and dating many of them is my goal as I've laid out in another thread. For me to do that and have a fun lifestyle travelling the world looks is a small part and being financially independent with a large disposable income is a bigger part. Ideally I want to find a corporate sponsor or a rich client that will let me lease their Sunreef 100 for a year and sail across the Mediterranean, Africa and Asia while I host events in multiple countries, network with cool people and start a polycule with the coolest hottest women(and some cute guys) I can find. I have a high drive towards sensuality and aesthetics and I like the fashion and media industry and find politics interesting so spending my life raising my status and thus access to interesting, hot and powerful people is fun and interesting to me. This will take a few years to accomplish but by this winter I want to be out of Canada and be able to live in South America/SEA as a digital nomad full time. That's doable on like $5K/month remote income and when I scale it up I'll head to Europe to actualize that dream above. Most people don't spend the time crafting an appealing and custom life vision and purpose they just react to their limitations and get mad at people living a life better than they do. That seems silly to me.

Pickup artists were doing softmaxxing, most of them talk about refining your appearance as much as you can. They also did peacocking which is trying to wear unorthodox stuff to grab attention and see if it works to their advantage or not. It is genuine science and truth because hypothesis cannot account for all unknown variables so you need to test it in a real environment to get accurate results. For example most experimental drugs act one way in a sterile petri dish and a whole other way in a live organism. It's the difference between a complex and complicated system if we use systems theory. I agree you improve yourself by 3-4 points very easily with all the things I've mentioned in this thread. Why not? The only way that you're separate from your spirit is with your material form and life. Being able to accomplish goals in a separate form is the gift of duality we've been given. To default back to the shield of the perfect higher self is coping and spiritual bypassing IMO. You can also say that the people of the opposite gender are here to experience what reality has to offer. For you to deny that to them and be offended to have to improve yourself to give them a great experience is selfish and egotistical. The whole point of materialism is that it's hard and presents challenges. If you cower from those challenges and call yourself spiritually superior as some people do on this forum I don't think you understand spirituality at all.

Okay I understand, yes the anti andrew tate video was good.

I don't think they traded brazilian and mexican support for the venezuelan operation. It was separate. Seems like Trump is going for the technate i.e. monroe doctrine 2.0 and for Mexico the main issue seems to be threats of intervening on their territory without their approval.

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That's going over into black pill territory bro. You can fuck really hot girls without worrying about your facial ratio. It's the classical being scared to take action so you overanalyze on theory. You could also call it bad science. The whole point of science is to TEST YOUR THEORIES. If you're making a bunch of theories that you're not testing you're not a scientist you're idk bro coping. PUA had issues but it was actual dating science. Read about a theory or an opener on the internet -> go try it a few times -> it worked or didn't work -> go report back-> try someone else or double down. Rinse and repeat until you have the dating life you want. "God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, courage to change the things I can, and wisdom to know the difference." - The serenity prayer @Hojo Wrong that's hardmaxxing vs softmaxxing. I agree with most of your points otherwise but looksmaxxing has many areas. @Jannes Sure you should accept and love yourself unconditionally. You live in material reality with the rest of us though and I'm sure you have goals in life. Use your life to fulfill your goals. Your ultimate perfect self will be waiting afterwards regardless. If your aim is to develop an autosexual relationship with yourself go for it no one is stopping you. If you want to fuck mates of the opposite or same gender taking care of your appearance is gonna be important. The problem with blackpill/hardmaxxing is that PUA/red pill got demonized so much that now this stuff started to take root. Social skills, status game, social circle and social media are the way. Black pill is cope; it's literally sitting in your room ruminating on why you can't go and fuck people instead of going out and fucking people. Leo's post on Clavicular is a perfect recap on black pill/hardmaxxing ideology I'll re link it https://www.actualized.org/insights/the-clown-world-of-looksmaxxing

Are you good with women or you're just imagining what perhaps might work? What's not fun about status, fame and money? Anti-materialism for the sake of it is quite anti-intellectual and spiritual bypassing IMO. Status is just a group of people thinking highly of you in a group you're in or in society as a whole. Fame is just starting to be recognized for what you do or what you are in a city, industry or globally. Money is people liking your work enough that they reward you for it. Usually your work solves a proble for them and makes their life better. Which of these things is bad? There is wisdom in not being attached to markers of success and accomplishment because it can become an endless pursuit when you are at the top and when you're the bottom you'll not enjoy the journey. Being against them as a blanket statement is just coping for lack of success though and sour grapes ultimately.

I deconstruct my suffering. Pain pretty much only comes from problems so we need to understand our problems better. Once we do usually it's not so bad. Most things are fixable in life apart from like dead loved ones. Also weed in the immediate short term.

It's a good point I like the idea of lifemaxxing in general, looks is just a small part of maximizing your dating life. I think everyone should write down a page of their dream life and then work towards it. If you're feeling like you're getting good response from the people that you really wanna date then great you probably focus on looks less. Most of it is like science you make a theory and go test it. It seems people get stuck at the theory part and never test it because it hurts to fall short of your own ideals. The only way to reach them is to go out there and try and fail and improve on your thesis and try again. So many dudes think they can get hot women if they tried and it will crush them to get rejected but it's not personal it's just a market. What in your life is gonna be more important than your dating life apart from your career/business/life purpose? If you're happily in a relationship then obv looksmaxxing is less important but even then plenty of relationships that end up in a deadbedroom because one or both partners let themselves go. People think self-improvement ends when you start dating someone but in a lot of ways that's the start of your problems. It's also a positive flywheel, if you workout, your partner/members of the opposite sex start liking you, you start caring about life more, you then put more efforts in those areas. Looks are also just the most immediate factor in appearance and presentation. Then you fall into one of my favorites, statusmaxxing. Now people are gonna say status is shallow. How dumb, our whole society is based on it and a lot of it are honest signals of competence and value you're offering to the social groups you're in and society as a whole.