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@Mu_ Journey is somewhat an inspiration, right on I want the game to be a spiritual exploration, hence the meditation/inner world is actual meditation. So it´s quite niche in that way. But the desert world is more similar to survival type of game. But yea you make a really good point that it should be calming "gameplay", which it only partly is. Thanks! @Kuba Powiertowski Thanks, If you like it who are not into computer games it means alot

Hi, im making a Spiritual Fiction, "Spi-fi", "game" about the archetypical journey of seeking isolation to find truth within. Obviously set in a desert ;-) Please have a look at my steam page and give critique: https://store.steampowered.com/app/2703140/?snr=1_5_9__205 Im posting because im not sure what direction it will take and would love some ideas Im not sure about alot of things, even the name so any ideas are welcome. Also im not sure where it´s going to go story wise. I want the game to apeal to alot of people even thou i know that at the base it´s a very nieche game, so I´ve introduced the ego as some sort of nemesis. The player navigates two worlds, the desert and the inner and at some point the ego of the inner world will seep into the desert and there will be some sort of confrontation and "the night of the soul" will come into play somehow. But yea im not sure, so any ideas are very welcome! Also Im doing this part time and hopefully this is a ticket out of the boring job I have and I don´t have much money for advertisement so please please if you want this to become reality spread the word <3 A demo will be available soon. Also sorry if this is the wrong section to post this, wasnt very sure where to!

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Hi, long time no see Precursor to my question: I am asking this cause I feel like the answer could be one of main the reasons why I so stubbornly identify myself with ideas of myself (ie the ego) rather than my awareness? And if I want an answer first thing is to ask the right question While meditating we try to not get carried away by our thoughts which is easier said than done as we all know here. In meditation I can seperate "my true self/awareness" from my sensory experience. Like if it tickles in my feet I can feel the tickling and simultaniously feel the pure unaltered awareness of the tickling wich allows me to seperate the awerness of the tickling and the tickling itself. Ofcourse this seperation is in the end only imaginary since there ultimatly is no seperation but im getting ahead of myself since I am still in everyday life identifying myself as this body this is where my focus is before I can continue my journey. The question: Why do I get so carried away by my thoughts? It´s like I start dreaming and forget even where I am?! Other senses like the tickling in my feet or even emotion like anxiety I can seperate "myself" from. So what is the difference between a thought and sensory stimuli? Why does the seperation of awareness and the physical world dissapear when i start thinking deeply? I mean it´s like this: im meditating and all is fine, I can feel the tickling, the anxiety and stay grounded in awareness and sense it come and go while I remain. But as soon as a thought comes along I loose control! like I loose my conciousness and am taken for a rollercoaster ride and not until the ride is slowing down I regain my conciousness and realise that "I" have been taken for a ride. When I am very deep in meditation sometimes I still can stay grounded when deep thoughts arise but that is unfortunately rare. Do you know what I mean? is it similar for you? and why do you think/believe that is?

@RickyFitts Nice, good question @BipolarGrowth "The thought that there is a difference attached to a story which reinforces the interpreted differences is the only difference." Thats an interesting thought. So Maybe its because there is some sort of a loop where the thought reinforces itself that it is so engaging and I loose myself in it. Like the thought is based on so many thoughts that are the basis of my Ego so the thought is much more important to the ego than a tickle in my feets or the feeling of angre. @Osaid Well im also used to feeling stuff in terms of survival. Like pain. And that is quite interesting because if the pain is strong enough i loose the conept of "I" in similar ways that I do when thinking. @WelcometoReality Yea I get the practice of basic mediation. Im just exploring what differentiates a thought from other perceptions.

Thanks! That´s a great basic meditation technique and I have those. My question however is more to gain some insight in what makes thougths different mainly in how captivating they are as opposed to sensations and even emotions. It´s hard to put into words ;-)

In my experience sitting/lotus is crucial. Thing is with meditation is that you want to be relaxed and alert at the same time and for me I can feel how my mind lean to day dreaming when lying down. Walking/standing meditation can be good because you are more alert but since you are not resting you wont sink deeper into meditation. It´s the middle way. You should rest your attention on something while meditating, not trying to hard or to little. Do not push it but also do not let it go. Do not seek but at the same time explore. Meditation is non dual, it´s the middle way. Lotus position is the middle way and the most effective (for me)

@WaveInTheOcean Wow thanks for that quick summary. Actually we seem to follow a similar path and values so I will just keep walking on it and see where it takes "me" Yea that runners high is so nice: when you feel exhausted and have a uphill coming at you and your body tells you "oh no, why are you doing this to me? and you answer - "no shutup you can do this" And you can feel all the muscles working and just pushing ahead. Yea it´s great

@WaveInTheOcean What other practices did you do prior to this awakening? Meditation? Yoga? what kind? how often? For how long have been on the path. Reason for my question is my own frustrated feeling that tells me just stop this spiritual bullshit, no matter how hard I try i will not get there, people have meditated for half a lifetime has not gotten there so why should I? Edit: Oh and I have tried psychedelics, including 2cB which has given me some kind of awakenings but they always wear of as I cannot integrate them fully it seems.

Well yea I wish it was that simple (which it is if I would just stop getting in my way, but I cannot help it ) Part of me still is Orange stage in Sprial Dynamics (even thou I don´t want to admit it) and that needs some persuation, which Hoffman does brilliantly and he should not be looked down upon in my eyes. He is just explaining the same thing from another point of view. And you have done to Leo. That part of me is a product of most of my life having society/culture tell me that I am this body and it exists in spacetime which probably produces a sense of self. That part is not helped by the Truth you speak of, it simply doesnt apply to that reality, that illusion/headset/nonsense.

@StarStruck ...Which is one of the main points/issues Hoffman is exploring....Sorry have to ask: have you even listened to more than 20 random seconds to the interview?

All moments can lead to spiritual awakening, and that doesnt exclude drunk moments i guess. You could have the same with pain, you feel it and then realize there is "someone" feeling it and so it might stop to hurt. Guess its some sort of naturally occuring self enquiry. Or like eckhart tolle who felt his depression and was so tired of it he gave up and realized he was not the depression but someone who experienced the depression, and that someone was in fact and could never be depressed. Like @Bjorgan Said alchol is bad for you so I would take another inspiration for my self enquiry if I was you. But to answer your question, yes in a way it was a partial awakening at that moment as far as I can understand (which isnt very much ;-) )

@Jacobsrw Wow thanks for your long reply. Interesting to hear your take on it issues/questions you have Hoffman obviously have a different aspect coming from mathematics than a sage such as Rupert Spira, maharishi etc but they really do all point in the same general direction and that is soooo interesting! Not sure if "spirituality" can change the world by itself, maybe many egos (mine included) needs some scientific proof to really let go and embrace our true nature.

@Saba You are def right that there are some cultish tendencies on this forum. Im not so worried thou. Now Im almost finished with it and gotta say its not fundamentally wrong the way Leo judged it to be. I can only guess what Leo is reffering to is: using science that is a part of the whole to explain the whole. And Hoffman talks about exactly that.

I have just watched half of it and wow, this is exactly what science needs to get its head out of its butt! Thanks so much for sharing Saba. I do have a aspect of myself still stuck in Orange and this helps alot

Hi and welcome to the forum! and thanks for sharing that story, I can really relate. Especially that alot of spiritual people are saying you have to forgive but honestly its not that easy and it´s ok not to forgive if you don´t feel like it. It can be a poweful and much needed lesson to the other part that you cannot forgive. And not forgiving doesnt mean you cannot be friends. And in time, forgivness might come. This is really where psychedelic shines, it can really be a tool for healing i believe. Not sure about allergies and stuff but who knows? go find out!

The brain is a prediction machine. It tries to predict the future by combining the present with the past. Thought might just be a memory merging with the present. A thought can be purely visual but mostly come in words. They might do that because the brain uses language to communicate with other brains, so it communicates to "you" via the same language. Several thoughts can combine into a new thought that is made of what those thoughts have in common, and so a new thought/concept is created and becomes a part of your ego and a thought architecture which is your map to the reality. I have no idea if this is "true" but it is what my experience and knowledge tells me.

It´s great. I´ve listened to his podcast for a long time...and this is basically his podcast with a weird visual story in the background. Check it out at duncan trussel family hour He has some great guests and topics while duncan is really funny yet down to earth and relatably human.

Exactly. And some say they try to force a certain rythm, make it slower (usually yoga) and some say keep it natural, as it is and I think thats the way to go. Some people say you should focus on the the moment the breath turns from going in and out, and going out and in, Id say just keep your awareness with the breath. Some say keep focus on only the nostrils (Vipassana) some say other things. It´s a djungle of opinions really... No need to complicate things...thats just the mind wanting to think instead of being present ;-)

Focusing on the breath is one of the most common and most simple practice. You can´t really go wrong there. You should however try to not count your breaths if you don´t need to. It can be helpful if you feel very distracted thou but makes you concentrate on counting as well as breathing and you want to concentrate on one thing. Here is a link that might be of interest to you:

I do really think this topic is important enough to take some action upon. Updating the forum guidelines or whatever. Even thou it might not be picked up by newcomers it would plant a seed and shorten the time wasted drastically...and result in a higher quality of the forum overall. Unfortunately @Leo Gura is gone for the moment and not sure if mods can do something. But it seems I am part of the minority here (?)

@TheAvatarState I agree with most of what you are saying. Which is why I try to not not to spend much time here, althou the drama of reality can be fun to engage in However doesnt the forum guidelines and even more "non duality wars not allowed here" warn about this stuff? But maybe it should be added to that how this forum can be a kind of trap since nonduality cannot be expressed in language.

Just wanna show my support to @Mongu9719 for this topic and the people defending him/her. It´s a well needed point of discussion and it does worry me how its met with force. Because of this this topic has now degenerated and no learning will take place

So if I understand correctly you put Martin Ball as a fully enlightened being such as Ramana Maharishi and the like? If so I can understand your position better. My question is still, if psychedelics are what so many of you praise them to be, should not more people get enlightened by them? I mean it´s not for a lack of trying is it? Sure more people are on a sober path and that counts for something, but not all. Martin might be the strongest case if he is enlightened, and lets say he is, should there not be more? You can´t rest the entire case upon his shoulders.

As close as you´d get id say apart from Terrance. In my eyes I don´t feel He is enlightened being. But I can be wrong ofcourse, I gotta admit I havent read enough about him or his material to be sure. But enough to not equal him to people such as I mentioned.