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Not to say I'm not against it if it's true, however I think that people are making a bid deal on something that if it's true is not even close to the slaughter houses. But not problem having a burger right? I'm not a vegan or something, just happen to see some footages. I find it to be pretentious to go stop paralyzed people from finally having some freedom in their lives and then happily going to buy some beef.

@Leo Gura if your goal is to understand, what could possibly be more important than the source of all experience, or the Truth. What if the levels of consciousness you are talking about is something completely different from what traditions are pointing at, and if that is the case how can you say you are above it?.. Above something you may never been serious enough to happen ?

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@Nahm @allislove thank you for the food for thought. I appreciate it

first of all i appreciate you all for responding @Roy indeed.. @Luciphene The truth is i'm more attracted to aspects of consciousness that has more to do with personality change. i'm not yet ready to die, (even though the perfect moment will never come), the desire for transformation is stronger within me for now. but thanks @Nahm when i have this symptom i know i'm facing my shit. its easy however to distract my self (which is mostly what i do) by self indulging, or other things like setting goals and strategizing about things which are irrelevant to deep changes i want to make, yet they are in some sort beneficial which provides a satisfying feeling of i'm doing something'. @allislove i see your point. sometimes though (At least for me) is necessary to face my self, because i know i'm running away.

i want to learn how to take the wisdom and insights from a book, person, or life in general, and live it as principle. To grow from it, embody it, breath it and literally become it. Not just talk about it and then do nothing (which is the tendency and the easiest thing to do). i notice myself becoming dogmatic and preach it to others, and then when you stop and look at your life nothing is different. Only your beliefs and filters about reality. Maybe isolation or seeking life experience guided by the insights ? i dont know.. Do you live the advice that you'll give me ?

Letting Go: The Pathway of Surrender Book by David R. Hawkins

i guess eventually you will have to figure it out. eventually you dont have a choice. for me personally unplugging from the ideologies promoted here helped a lot. its hard to distinguish what is real from what isn't with all that noice in our heads. Hang in there man

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There's a lot you can learn from this guy “Be more than motivated, be more than driven, become literally obsessed to the point where people think you’re f*cking nuts.” David Goggins

perhaps you are feeling that consiousness work is something that you should do. once i felt this way i completely dropped it. there are thousand ways you can grow outside of enlightenment. If enlightenment is something you value perhaps you should first outgrow other things in your life. And then once you really want it you can get back to it 100%, which is what will get you closer to it. i In the end there is no right way to live. we chose the way we live our lives. The best we can do is to know we had that integrity and we didnt let ideology, beliefs or our avoidance of suffering to guide our decisions. best of luck my friend

you do not become enlightened. its a waste of time trying to understand what has left after you got rid of yourself.

It's actually funny how people here think pursuing spirituality is less selfish than giving a punch

@James123 I allways enjoy seeing people like you trying to explain to them

@OmniYoga also not everyone are willing to go through the process to get there. Its tempting to go the easy road in life.