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@now is forever I'm probably just as much of a hippocrite as almost everyone else is But yeah, upcycling is becoming hipper and hipper (yeah ) - maybe these can inspire you?

I know I was just kidding ;-) I promised myself to minimize my pollution in effective altruistic ways, so I will do it here, too. As long as it's BPA-free ;-) https://www.theguardian.com/society/2017/jun/16/eu-moves-to-restrict-hormone-disrupting-chemical-found-in-plastics

Well, we have to be very very careful about the bag issue actually! A danish study showed that cotton bags have to be used at least 20,000 times to make up for the energy that is used for making it: https://www2.mst.dk/Udgiv/publications/2018/02/978-87-93614-73-4.pdf (you need to scroll a bit to get to the english translation of the study). The next issue is clothes really!!!

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/environment/2018/07/news-how-plastic-straw-bans-work/ @Leo Gura I will keep polluting "your" forum with post-modernist communist hippie stuff until I get banned...

Wait until it swaps over to the US Plastic straws are already being banned in the US, too - aren't they?

@tsuki degradable plastic comes with issues, too - look at these articles for example: http://zerowastemontenegro.me/biodegradable-plastic-bags http://www.europarl.europa.eu/registre/docs_autres_institutions/commission_europeenne/com/2013/0123/COM_COM(2013)0123_EN.pdf Yep. If anyone needs more scientific evidence, here you go: Geyer, R., Jambeck, J.R. & Law, K.L., 2017. Production, use, and fate of all plastics ever made. Science Advances, 3(7), pp.25–29. Available at: http://advances.sciencemag.org/content/3/7/e1700782 Rochman, C.M. et al., 2013. Policy: Classify plastic waste as hazardous. Nature, 494 (7436), pp.169–171. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/235620600_Policy_Classify_plastic_waste_as_hazardous Even the plastic manufactorers in Europe understand the problem, see: https://www.plasticseurope.org/en "PlasticsEurope is a leading pan-European association and represents plastics manufacturers active in the European plastics industry. The plastics industry in Europe is a vibrant sector that helps improve the quality of life by enabling innovation, facilitating resource efficiency and enhancing climate protection." And here is their reaction: https://www.plasticseurope.org/en/newsroom/press-releases/plasticseurope-welcomes-ecs-plastics-strategy

Chapter 4: CO2 footprints CO2 footprints are highest during a year at Christmas time. Not just because of all the gifts, but also because of the decorative lights. Researchers calculated that three days of Christmas festivities result in average to ~650 kg of CO2 emissions per person - equivalent to the weight of 1,000 Christmas puddings: https://www.york.ac.uk/news-and-events/news/2007/carbon-christmas/ Our presents this year are mainly Bamboo toothbrushes, soap bars that a friend of mine makes herself and nets that I crocheted myself (to use for buying fruits and veggies). They will be wrapped in either cloth (Japanese Furoshiki style): http://thezerowastejapan.com/how-to-wrap-a-gift-with-furoshiki/ or with (already used) wrapping paper that I saved over the last couple of years. We never had so many lights on and in our house, but still - this year we are reducing even that. I also think it's much cozier with less lights than with way too many.

Oh jeeze, this was so not coming from a place of abundance at the time I wrote this. Nowadays, I actually really don't care what you do. Go and produce as much waste as you want! And live a life as "un-green" as you want! I also understand that this journal is a "first world problems" type of journal and that I can consider myself lucky to live in a stage green/yellow country. I will still keep going and write this journal as I work on myself and implement changes that I want to do for myself. And during my retreat I had the insight that I should probably apply more effective altruistic principles actually.

I wonder, if and how the concept of Spiral Dynamics needs be adjusted once a significant number of people know about it. Of course, it probably speeds up the evolution but at the same time, almost every ego would like to put themselves in higher stages than they actually are. In the worst case, they might say that this model is just complete nonsense and ignore it or start ideologies against it. I would also assume that stage orange would tend to skip integrating green, or at least not integrate it properly.

So what else could we do other than sending kids to give speeches? This was a picture in a Greenpeace magazine a couple of years ago - would love to see this message in TV ads, in between all the "typical consumerism" ads ?

@tsuki Hi Tsuki, dear old friend! I love her metaphors ? So, no bending spoons. And no victim behavior either, lol ?

And yeah, all questions are only answered temporarly anyway... so there is actually not much else to say. Maybe the strong feeling that I should shut up here as I'm probably causing more harm than good with my green moralism ?

I guess I was suffering from ego-backlash even before going into it ?? So, guess how I feel now? No, actually, it's not that bad (yet). I'm embracing the fact that in the next couple of weeks I will get to make some use of all the insights I had. I always feel like I learn the most when I spend time together with people that have the ability to stir up my emotions ?

@now is forever ? hope you are doing well!

Do you know that REI is keeping it's doors closed today again? ?

I know nothing. Too bad, that "I"="you"="we" are only human. Or what are "we"? Maybe the upcoming retreat will help. Saying good bye for 2-3 weeks ?

It's getting better with time, lol. Sorry, "we" are interrupting "your" flow again @tsuki P.S: Actually, let me correct myself - it was getting better with time, then I had some serious mystical experiences and then I got thrown back somehow. All in all, it felt like taking three steps forward and two back.

Can you experience both at the same time?

Courageous!

Hmm, no but what an interesting synchronicity with your avatar ;-) I guess the question then becomes... if it bursts, how would we react?

@tsuki What is time? What is direct experience? Love contemplating with you "two" ?

Because you are your body and "you" are "nothing" - can you "be" both (and enjoy the paradox) at the same time? Hehe, looks like I'm still having trouble enjoying this paradox, otherwise I wouldn't be triggered to jump in here, would I?

Do you really need solutions? Oh that sounds like a nice question to explore: How could "we" get mind and body operating in sync / at the same speed?

@now is forever It was not very cold, but actually quite exhausting. Gotta practice a lot of self-care now Are you starting to feel better? Did you contemplate things down to it's roots?