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Thanks, Leo.

Is 5meo-dmt oxalate smokable or do I have to change it first? If so how?

After almost doing 50 trips of 5-meo and DPT. Like 40-10 ratio, I have come to follow with a lot more heart the tantric yoga and tantric Tibetan Buddhism. All these psychedelics trips have shown me from ***Personal experience*** that enlightenment is the goal but I will not achieve through psychedelics as they are not permanent. I would suggest my good friends here to research *Kalachakra* from Tibetan Buddhism. This book " Chakras energy centers of transformation by Harish Johari " is a great book on showing you visualization on each chakra. I am going to take it easier on very powerful psychedelics but forever thankful for the opportunity on having such mystical experiences that made me more hungry for actual enlightenment like Tilopa and Naropa and Padmasambhava and Jesus and Buddha and many others. Many Tibetan masters have gotten enlighten through the practice of Kalachakra which comes directly from the Buddha when he was giving lectures on *Vulture Peak*. I have also come to learn part of the *Dream Yoga* which is 1 of the 6 Yogas from Naropa. Everyday learning more and more. This is not the end of the trail my friends. I have yet to know of anyone that got fully enlighten like the Awaken above mention. He who seeks should find.

This thing of needing to add water is extremely unnecessary! I have done 5meo close to 50 times, There is simply no need to add water. What happens is that the person enters the state of Sushupti where the conceptual mind doesn't naturally exist when the prana concentrates on the heart chakra. We all enter this state when we go to sleep, we call that state, the state of sleep without dreams, REM state where we have dreams is called Svapna where the prana concentrates on the trout chakra. Is clear that no one has told Octavio this.

I have oxalate form too, I have only plug it and every trip has been positive and beneficial. I would not snort oxalate! I could maybe in the future smoke freebase to see the difference but no need for snorting.

@khalifa I have done more than 45 trips and never had a bad trip on 5-meo or DPT. Every single one of them great and beautiful experience. Keep doing other spiritual practices and come back later to psychedelics I guess. You have to learn to let go.

Shavasana posture is so good for 5meo-dmt at least for me is so much better than sitting. The body is for me A LOT more relax and I can go much much deeper than sitting. You have to listen to your body, it knows so much. Just try Shavasana and sitting guys whatever is better for you. We are all different. So motivated again!

Yes. I personally have done more than 40 trips and have never vomited per se. On at least 2 I vomited "something" which I could not see. Others heavy dosage I had basil leaves on my stomach and didn't even have the urge to vomit. All my psychedelic trips I waited at least 4 hours from the last meal (and I have very good digestion as I exercise on a road bike and I am Vegan/Plant-based).

I would say start low and slow. 1st trip just 5mg and observe and take how many days you want in between. I have done 40 trips in the span of 2 months of 5-meo and DPT. Every single one has been positive and higher and higher understanding. The last one, for example, my consciousness got crystallized to the point that I got to celestial realms and much more on that trip which was 75mg of DPT( I am pretty sure I am less sensitive than Leo but not a lot). I started to understand things at higher dimensions. We are all different. Leo at the beginning took months in between and I took days in between from my medium to large trips. The majority of times I have taken at least 1 day in between because of various reasons like ego backlash or other reasons.

Start with the recommended dosages. From 5mg to 30mg ( 5meo) . I always use plugging. Works great for me.

Last night I heard the sound of the opening of the chakra Anahata (it has happened before a few times). And every time I get scared and because of it, it closes down.

I would have to suggest 5 Meo 1st because it opens you up to the light and then DPT so that there will be little chance to get bad trips on it. This is the way I did it and I have never had a bad trip. (close to 40 on medium to high dosages.)

My short trip report of 50mg DPT: amor more amor amor amor more amor... till infinity.

For you @Leo Gura is DPT just superior and no need for 5-meo anymore?

Just out of 10mg of DPT. Before this, I never ask existential questions. Basically never. That was 2 hours and 50min of existential questions in the 2 languages that I know. DPT is really something special. Love it. Always aiming to go deeper.

The biggest bliss states I have had in the past was always previous by a deep purge of vomiting. Soak in blissfulness, incredibly beautiful.

Yes. The first time into infinity I laugh really hard (every muscle in my body was hurting basically) and then I went back to infinity and then came back and was stupefact and went back to infinity and when I came to the body then I was super gracious holding my hands together. I will never forget that. I don't remember the infinity but I completely remember what the body did when I came back to it.

Last word is merci. Enlightenment!

@Leo Gura Do you always use 1/4 of tsp Even with oxalate? How do you make sure nothing stays on the spoon if you use oxalate which doesn't dilute completely?

I have done a few eyes closed and a few eyes open on 30mg. For me, they are just different. Some on Shavasana, some sited. One I did completely eyes closed in the middle of the night and on top of that I put the mindfold mask, at the end of this trip I felt like the rotation of planets or something around my face and a few other sensations. Once I plan to do on Shavasana ON EYES OPEN but I gave in to the sensation of needing to poop and went to the bathroom and I went infinite in the toilet and after the peak I went to the shower and was "vomiting"( nothing physical) for some time and after that I was 100% on the bliss body that Sadhguru speaks on this video. That state of bliss body is absolutely incredible. I have attained it 2 or 3 times. I will keep doing them with eyes open because I feel them a lot more profound.

If you watch this video and have use 5-meo-dmt in the past then you know what he is talking about in this video. At least 2 times I have drenched in the "bliss body" It's so much better than an orgasm. 100 times better.

Insight on 5-meo-dmt. I have a lot of respect for Leo/Martin/Octavio etc for introducing me to 5-meo-dmt. Guys, we have to remember that this is a technology ( basically pure prana.) Is *NOT* (pure powder consciousness). We have to use it to open the chakras up to the third eye. The reason this is a temporary enlightening experience is the fact that we haven't developed the chakras enough to withstand this energy. Enlightenment only happens once. We have to use it to open the chakras. Listen to Sadhguru. 5-meo-dmt is like Dhynalinga in his temple of Shiva is a technology. Don't rely on 5-meo-dmt for enlightenment because it will never give permanent enlightenment. That is something different. The reason we vomit and stuff with this is again because the body can't hold so much energy/prana. Everything is energy. As I am writing this I see the full circle, is a paradox. I see more now the need to eat positive pranic food and really stop eating the negative pranic food and all the other advice that Sadhguru gives. The reason we get hungry after the trips is for the fact that we have spent so much energy(calories) is because I just introduce a lot of energy to the body and a lot of calories got burnt trying to hold that energy. There is a whole science on how to get enlighten for a reason(Yoga). 5Meo is a technology we have to understand the science! If you are not careful 5meo will fry your body! During all past trips I always Open up the body and relax and I did with this up to a point, when I started to feel the need to vomit I decided to use my will to say no and went and move from fully open to sitting meditation posture and withhold the need to vomit with my will ( controlling the prana surging in the spine). Is science! Try to be conscious through the whole experience. After the breakthrough experience work with medium or low dosages. Plugging is much better because the smoothness is great because we have to develop the body and be gentle with it. Be conscious of your spine all the time maintained it erect. Also, a tip on plugging if you need to plug it sideways for some reason *just* plug it sideways and then move all 4 doggy style. That way it drips where it needs to be and you don't get the very unpleasant sensation of needing to go to the bathroom right before going into Infitity (that is a great tip right there). I also notice the need to sit on full lotus but I couldn't do it (not flexible) enough. I will start doing this practice to be able to sit on the full lotus. I don't care if it takes a year or more. This position is really good to have the spine perfectly erect. I remember when I was a child I use to sit in full lotus posture on my grandmas house and meditate! More than a decade ago I didn't know anything about anything I was 7 or 8 years old OMG this just came to me now. I am crying.

@Serotoninluv You had problems with sleep before using 5-meo-dmt?

Yes! For me, the last one is always the most profound and beautiful. And for me, I have to have more than 6hours. Experimenting with fasting (24hr) and for me is so much better (no body load, and basically it becomes a minimum of 10 times better experience). Basically is easier to die on a fasted body for me.

I have read about the difference between the methods of administration. And also about the lab made vs toad venom. But I haven't read about oxalate, hcl and freebase is what I haven't heard that much about the difference in the potency. That is what I am curious to know.