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For years, I thought I was at the Orange stage of Spiral Dynamics, but after some deep self-reflection on my thoughts and behaviors in the real world, I’ve realized that most of my psyche—about 70%—aligns with the Red stage. Here’s what I’ve observed about myself: 1. Manipulative Behavior: I’m highly skilled at manipulating people to get what I want, with no regard for their feelings or how my actions affect them. 2. Dishonesty in Relationships: • I talk to multiple women (more than five at once) and make each believe I love them, without them knowing I’m seeing others. • I cheat in relationships and pretend to care about my girlfriend when I don’t. 3. Workplace Deception: • In my sales job, I often lie to my manager to get what I want. • I manipulate clients into buying from me, acting like I care about their needs when my only concern is making money. 4. Short-Term Thinking: • My life revolves around finding shortcuts and playing mind games to achieve immediate gratification. • I live day by day, hour by hour, with no concern for long-term consequences. • Planning or thinking long-term feels almost impossible for me. Although I’ve been living this way, I sometimes feel like I’m playing the role of a villain in life. It doesn’t seem like a fulfilling way to exist. How can I evolve and grow beyond this? I want to transition to higher stages like Blue and Orange, but I’m unsure how to break out of these patterns. What steps can I take to truly evolve and live a better, more purposeful life?

@El Zapato I was born into an unhealthy Muslim household where my parents constantly fought. My mother was abusive, often insulting and hitting me over the smallest things, whether it was studying or simply completing tasks. Fear of punishment became my primary motivation. My parents frequently compared me to others and punished me if I wasn’t the top performer at school or in swimming training. It was an extremely strict and abusive environment. As I grew older, I became an atheist, but eventually, dropped out college, I explored consciousness and embraced spirituality, thanks to Leo. I left my family home and now live independently, working as a sales agent at a travel agency. Just a summary about my upbringing.

Recently, I watched two episodes by Leo. The first one was on solipsism, which was a real eye-opener for me. The second episode was on infinite gods. I find these two videos to be quite contradictory. In the solipsism video, Leo discusses the idea that there is only one mind (one God), but in the next video, he talks about infinite minds and infinite gods. If Leo could elaborate on this apparent contradiction, I would greatly appreciate it.

@Leo Gura I’m glad you pointed that out because, to be honest, I don’t have a lot of empathy for other people’s feelings right now. I was literally considering sending all of them a message and truthbombing them all at once. But after reading your latest reply, I reflected on it and realized I was partly doing it for personal gain to feel like I’m being truthful and evolving to a higher SD stage without really considering how it would affect my girlfriends’ feelings. I have to do some more deep self-reflection honstly.

Got it. So the plan is to start small—stop lying about the little things first—and gradually work my way up to bigger truths to avoid any ego backlash along the way. That makes sense. I’ll start working on it and share updates about my progress weekly in this thread. Let’s see how it goes! I really appreciate your advice and the great work you’re doing, Leo.

I feel like I should start by being truthful with the women I talk to because that’s the hardest part for me. The thought of facing the consequences—like possibly losing all of them once they find out I’ve cheated—is overwhelming. And here’s your chance, Leo, to take some of them off my hands (just kidding). But seriously, they’ll see me for what I am: a liar and a cheater. I think being honest about this would be a huge step toward living truthfully. The question is, do I have the courage to do it? What do you think?

Great advice! I find the Spiral Dynamics model to be a highly accurate representation of consciousness development and psychology. It resonates with both my personal experiences and the people around me.

I remember a time in my life when Jordan Peterson started going viral. His advice about discipline, cleaning your room, and not lying really resonated with me. I tried applying those rules for a while, and it felt good—it gave me a sense of structure and integrity. But no matter how much I tried, I always seemed to fall back into my old behaviors and manipulation techniques whenever an opportunity presented itself. If I saw a chance for personal gain—whether it was money, validation, or even attention from women—I couldn’t resist. It’s like the temptation of immediate benefits always outweighed the long-term values I was trying to build.

That got me laughing ... maybe true tho, who knows !!

I’ve always considered myself the best liar I’ve ever met. I can act and lie without getting caught because I calculate everything so carefully. The truth is, lying and manipulating have brought me a lot of success in life. It got me more women, a promotion to team leader in my sales job, and even more financial opportunities. But despite all of that, I want to stop living this way. It leaves me feeling empty and untruthful. When I decided to come here, be real, and show a bit of my true self, I felt a small sense of relief. and from now I will start being truthful to my self and others as much as I can. Thank you for your advice—it really means a lot. Love you, Leo.

I want to express my deepest gratitude to Leo. Although I’ve never met or directly communicated with him, his work has profoundly shaped my reality and mindset. I started watching Leo’s videos at 17, and now at 25, after over eight years, I can see the immense impact he has had on my life. A bit about me: I’m an Egyptian who was born into a religious family in a conservative, Islamic country. When I first came across Leo’s content, it was the usual self-help material—how to stop worrying about what others think, tips on weight loss, and insights into relationships. These videos were transformative, helping me shift my mindset during my formative years. Thanks to Leo, I was able to better cope with childhood abuse, family trauma, and even overcome depression. As Leo’s content evolved, so did my understanding of the world. His videos on religion vs. science and the nature of reality made me start questioning my own beliefs—a dangerous and taboo subject in my culture. But as I delved deeper into these topics, I began to explore meditation, the nature of the universe, and concepts like infinity and consciousness. This journey led me from atheism to spirituality, and ultimately to a deeper understanding of religion, including the true nature of Prophet Muhammad. Today, I am a completely different person. I have a healthy ego, multiple awakenings, and a better grasp of the illusion we call life. Leo has been a true mentor, fundamentally shaping my psyche and the way I perceive reality. I am incredibly grateful to him for everything he has done for me.

@Husseinisdoingfine Based on what I’ve read about Mohamed, he seems to be an enlightened individual who achieved some form of awakening through years of meditation. It’s possible he may have also used psychedelics, but either way, he appears to have gained profound insights into the nature of reality and consciousness. It seems he realized his own divinity, similar to other spiritual figures like Jesus and Buddha, who are revered by many.

@Leo Gura Glad you read it, Cheers!

I’m 25 and feel like I don’t know much about how money or investments work. I’ve been working in sales for a couple of years and I’m good at it—one of the top agents at my company. While I’ve been making a decent amount of money, I have little to no savings. I tend to spend my commission as soon as I get it, and I don’t want to continue living like this. Where should I start to learn more about managing money and investing?

This post is written by me, for myself, because I am all there is. Everything that is being infinitely created in real time is simply me, as there is nothing else. I am imagining the words on this screen, which are also me, being created intelligently, frame by frame, in this moment—only this moment—deceiving myself into believing I’m living a life as a human. But why not? There is no “why” or “how.” Logic itself is something I’ve created, just a feature of this illusion. I am logic, imagining logic. I’m not actually writing; I’m just imagining fingers, hands, a screen, and letters—all being imagined right now. There is only this moment.

I’m 25 and have been in a relationship with a wonderful girl for a year. We love each other deeply, and she’s incredibly loyal and an amazing person. We share similar mindsets and values. Recently, she’s been talking about getting married, and while it feels like the right step, I’m hesitant. I feel like I’m still young and focused on building myself, and I worry that marriage might hinder my personal growth. What do you think?

@OBEler There is only one bubble of consciousness; everything else is just a mental image. There aren't multiple bubbles—just one, which is the reality you experience now.

@Keryo Koffa It doesn't work that way!

@OBEler Everything happening now consists of the visual, sounds, smells, sensations, mental images, and thoughts you experience—nothing more, nothing less.

Is going hard into street cold approach , like for example , approaching 10 girls a day in the street , going throw the fire of rejection , is it really worth the time and energy ? cause this shit takes a LOT of energy , so is it really necessary to do in my journey of development as man , or putting this energy and time into something else is better ? I want to listen to your opinions on this ? I'm 19 years old btw !

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this thread is a masterpiece !

Absolute Infinity !

Great video !