now is forever

just realized: unconditional love is not unconditional it is conditioned - it is something we can learn but only if we are teached. love is not just a belief it is experiencable, watchable, touchable but one thing it is not: calculated - it never can be.

@Good-boy that was creeping under my skin. the problem online mostly is the anonymity and missing out on a hug or a smile. so if it gets really serious what else is there to do than writing? if our mind goes wild we still need to feel our body because it remains - if there is no one to lead us a way back to the body we are so disconnected to it we might want to leave it behind. without understanding it as a home, or a temple. our greatest good. some people only keep it alive to drift away. and some fly because they learn how to treat it and use it wisely. it‘s really sad if someone ends their life - because it’s hopelessness that ends it. it’s not the death itself, who really fears that? but the facettes of hopelessness - and suffering. oneness means in one interpretation unity of body mind and soul - so if we find to ourselves and find we have left one part out of the game we have to reconnect to that part to be truely one, how can we reconnect to love if we miss out on it - love is only found in the most subtle form of existence. how can we prove it is real if not in a human touch?

@Faceless what about observing our selfs-self in the relationship of ourselfs-others?

maybe if you didn’t pursue it in the first place? maybe if you just stumble upon it? maybe if the cause is the cause itself.

fear is if we move from A to B without knowing about C,D,E,F,G... false control is moving from A to B without considering C,D,E... false control is also moving from A to B without acknowledging the possibility of interdependency and a possibility of ....X,Y,Z. control over fear is giving up the ambition to control A,B,C,D...X,Y,Z in the moment while still being aware of it.

contradictory

wait a minute, that’s hundred years ago - and then it might have been the worst (except for the middle ages) guess thousands of years ago they had their beliefs and their shamans and healers (some more some less) mhhh but they had other blind spots, as we also have our blind spot: online - that is. while the body needs some physical help and support in a social context. (well at least online, is the other perspective). this is still survival mode.

@Feel Good hey - what about this aggression. no hijacking here - this thread is far too serious.

when i had my last spiritual experiences i went to a marma massage specialist, because i had the experience that it helped me to get rooted. the therapist told me the same - you need to come down, ground yourself. feel the earth. feel the limits, and then you can make sense out of it. and maybe start to explore again in a slightly slower speed. i would recommend you something that makes you more aware of your physical body - maybe some art therapy or working on a farm or something that makes you reconnect to life in a productive way. feeling the body after you’ve worked in nature makes you understand your limits - and potentials.

no - children are more important, especially if you are guiding them. they love you and you love them! (also, i miss you from the heart, but it’s ok it‘s not possessive so we are not stuck in this)

i guess this thread shows entropy of meaning. in this it shows what it was about.

now it seams like we are teaming up... @Ingit i don’t think he wanted to be rude, at least not to you. he is just a little distanced, devided. because he wants to control the conversation.

mmmmhhhhhhhh - critics not welcome? if you want to talk to yourself why not retreat to a journal? don‘t get me wrong but it’s kind of aggressive and possessive as well.

@Faceless dito

@Etagnwo no. he just is confusion. or more: contradiction.

@Faceless hopeless indeed! hoplessly hopeless.

what is the difference in being choicless and not being a choice? what is the difference in choosing to be hopelessly in love and not choosing to be hopelessly in love when you still are? with life that is. what for, all this speech if he wasn’t a dreamer? pursuing a dream implies hope.

@Faceless again, that’s so easy to say, there is different hopelessness. hopelessly trapped in prison, hopelessly trapped in a situation, hopelessly trapped in fear, hopelessly trapped in your own mindloop? are you not contradicting yourself? of course there is also: hopelessly in love with the world, hopelessly in love with the hopeless... but what makes this hopelessness different than the other one? or even the same?

live might be a maze, but subconsciousness is like a magic forest. when we are entering it it’s better going prepared. what really fits, because i‘m at freiburg at the blackforest right now.

today i was reminded once again of the fact that life indeed is a game, but not one just to be watched and controlled like a video game or a movie. it is there to be acted upon and experienced in it’s true nature - only this way we can be healthy in body mind and soul.

@Gryner for the moment i wouldn’t experimenting with just any even slightly hallucinogenic drug at all. manipulation with substances should be given into an experienced hand. weed can be especially fatal for people with psychotic disposition. anything you need now is more grounding (sattvic) work - you experiencing a melting of your phantasy world with your reality world, you just stepped through a door that links the both with each other. if your phantasy world was linked to games mainly, you’re body feels like it is god because all it ever needed to experience this, was to hold a controller. there are other ways to experience god. i would greatly recommend you to do something in nature with people - something more related to physical productive activity in a social therapeutic or shamanistic context. something like cooking, gardening, building something. you need to relink your phantasy body to your physical body and set some of your concepts right through direct experience of nature or the pure world. it‘s basically as if you flew away without having a mechanism to bring you down to earth again.

so what do i mean talking about stigmatization? if i talk about stigmata i don’t talk only about the visual stigmata - i talk about the voluntary or involuntary separation of one person or group from the herd. the separation sometimes happens because of just visual differences but also in differences that emerge from behavior. to not get the whole thing preconceptive loaded in a bad way - i thought about the artists stigmata, it is a self chosen one. a stigmata we choose because we want to be different and create a difference. it’s a little bit similar to the stigmata of youth cultures. i chose this because i find it to be a stigmata that’s not negative or political loaded and mybe it can help us separating cultural or descendence stigmata from behavioral stigmata, if we reflect on it. it‘s so mutch about group dynamics, too. but i don’t want to talk about groups at the moment. as i can’t change them, i can only change myself.

@Strikr wow, thank you for showing that side, too. did you ever try aswaghanda? it’s supposed to help with adhd and can also stimulate memory etc. it’s an adaptogene so not working psychoactive - so if you just went for the drug... maybe not it?

mhhh, if it’s the only way to handle one addiction to replace it with another one that doesn’t affect you - guess it’s the better alternative. but keep in mind it could be maybe just another addiction. usually there is mutch more to the addiction than only the addiction - what do we compensate? to handle that it’s the mutch bigger part under the surface. i found it quiet helpful to use strong brewed ginger tea when i was stopping smoking - it’s said ginger is stopping the craving. read something about tamarind helping to control alcohol craving - i found the fruit in asian supermarkets. maybe you could make some lemonade with it... don’t know.