now is forever

@Jack River maybe i just don’t get your language. but there are people who sit in really heavy bullshit and choose to not choose - and that’s a complete waste of energy for them. not choosing is also a choice. especially in your time/fear hybrid.

not choosing is also a choice.

learning to choose is not a waste of energy. if you have too many choices it’s just entropy going nowhere. learning to choose means learning to learn.

it’s a matter of definition what is waste energy. there is no way giving something that hasn’t been nourished before.

@Telepresent , it’s not only energy for work. ora et labora? i‘m sure you can guide energy in a way you become a more loving person though or a more aggressive one.

@Telepresent at the moment i don’t know exactly. because i don’t do the practice so i don’t know how it would be now. and i am really careful with the statements on what they really are.

yes so it would be good to know what you are connecting to, don’t you think so

@Telepresent i‘m not exactly sure what they are. i only know they are part of a web of belief systems, what is based on a cosmic order. since yoga is and was always linked to the belief system it’s kind of obvious that you need to know the belief system to fully understand the meaning of the chants and practices. it‘s something like a language.

@Jack River whom are you addressing the question to? if it was at the last post, i‘m just trying to connect the dots. what ever that may sound like to you.

@okulele wouldn’t the chant be very dependent of what kind of energy you want to raise? i‘m really a beginner in hindu mythology an more so in kriya/kundalini - but i would guess for women it might be interesting to sing something with shakti. maybe even for men if they want to connect to female energy? maybe? and what i learned in india, shiva is part of a trinity, that would be brahma=creator vishnu=preserver and shiva=destroyer/renewer you could also sing to ganesh for happiness. it depends on what you want and need at the moment. the possibilities of chanting are quiet many, more then there are gods. the same as possible mudras you could hold. at least know what you are chanting for

all this lemonjuce all over my face, i really don’t know how to hide it. ? i‘m just a fool on a fools journey.

going deeper doesn’t mean to go deeper into the emotion of the depression while neglecting itself, it means going deeper in understanding where it comes from and then starting to change the situation and own patterns that keep you there. depression consists of multiple factors. naming them is a good start. doing the shit reflection? maybe? and then reflecting on how to work yourself out of it? actually we got all the tools for it in the latest vids, you just have to walk the videos backwards like a scarab. what doesn‘t mean the scarab is hiding the shit. and also not just rolling it around for no reason, it’s not a sisyphos.

there is a joke my father always laughed about. i‘m not sure if he fully understood it though: there is a ghostdriver on the highway, he sees a car coming from the other direction, he shouts out: a ghost driver!....another one! one, two, three, so many!

so what could you change about what‘s actually true here in the moment? so you wouldn’t feel that everything is a lie? an enlightened person will change truth into truth, not stick with the denial. but that means turning nothing into something and that means working it out of nothing. so what is actually true. and how can you change it? and what would you need to do to change it? what feelings would you need to nurish to have the power to change it? you have to step outside of mourning the ego for being so sneaky.

i just realized, why i‘m not doing god/ess or temple serving practices, rituals anymore. i was afraid of these feelings blinding me from what really is because i went into some crazy addiction like mode, so i stopped all the heartwarming practices. what surely is nothing bad but serving our own temple to give love to others and serve the universal temple, also means having beautiful rituals. i noticed that in india, it’s so beautiful to bring flowers to the temple. in sri lanka at some ayurvedic places they put flowers in water bowls every morning, sometimes they pluck them from the trees while they walk to the bus - going from home to work - a busride can take one hour or two. just doing something like this, with love and then doing expanding love meditation. maybe i should start to do that. alternating with mindfulness practice. i‘ll see where that takes me. because flowers are not shit, they just grow on it.

@NoSelfSelf maybe meet someone outside the forum, or do a retreat. maybe you need someone who can guide you. you seem to need some direct experiences so you can have the beautiful experiences that are not just a facade. i don’t say we are facades i just say you experience us is a facade if you never have an experience aside from facades. you meet facades in reality and meet uncovered facades on your screen. so meet an uncovered non facade.

@SFRL is it? how do you know?

@SFRL because you use the game as a model, but that’s just a tool. there are different games and different solutions to every game. and some games you can even play differently. does the player play the game? or does the game play the player? and who made the game?

@tsuki

@tsuki or just to find the meaning of meaninglessness itself meaningful.

this morning i wake up with these thoughts: >>shit is a matter of taste<< and this shit poetry: a lot of shit is shit, but not shitting the shit out of shit.

first general insight, quote from mari kondo: „as an organizing fanatic and professional, i can tell you right now, that no matter how hard i try to organize another’s space, no matter how perfect a storage system i devise, i can never put someone else’s house in order in the true sense of the term. why? because a person‘s awareness and perspective on his or her own lifestyle are far more important than any skill at sorting, storing, or whatever. order is dependent on the extremely personal values of what a person wants to live with.“ it doesn’t mean we can’t try to help if another person runs into bullshit, but where is our own limit? that depends on being aware of our limitations in helping. there is just one exception - standing up for anothers life if it’s at stake. we use to overlook that, we use to look away. can we see what’s lifethreatening to ourselves? to see what’s lifethreatening to others? we can only organize ourselves, we can’t count on others to do the work for us but a helping hand we can take it or tell politely: it’s ok, i‘ll do that for myself. reaching a helping hand is only an offer that can always be denied, sometimes even if we try to help ourselves.

i‘m starting my manual bullshit cleaning with crossreading condensed chaos by phil hine, and mari kondo‘s the life changing magic of tidying up. i‘ll restart reading both books and try to do whatever comes up. physically that‘ll mean i‘ll start sorting out my stuff - so i‘ll feel lighter. every object we own cost‘s us energy, to clean it, to think about it, it maybe produces dust or is full of chemicals. and it will cost us work and time if we are not clever. not that i won’t own any of them anymore the unhealthy stuff, but i‘ll just let it go. (it will be not the first time but i didn’t do it for 3years now and that screams for actuality) after i clean out my physical nest, i go on with my digital nest. same with unhealthy thoughts, emotions, reactions and behavior. trying to watch them as much as possible. journaling. i can’t start working on big life projects if i don’t start with myself. i‘ll also research for a mindfulness meditation, to do all that. to stay in the present. this is morning program, in the afternoon - i want to start on my projects. it‘s a lot of work at the same time but i don’t need to do them all at once on one day. i‘ll try to modify as i need it, because i know everything that’s too strictly organized will just be bullshit for me, because i‘m alive. and because i‘m spending too much time on procrastination/creative thoughts my body also will need to go deeper into the attention span problem because if i watch the mind wandering around, my body does so too, because it is unfocused then. (it should go away with mindfulness practice but maybe there is more to it) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attention_span goldfish poo

someone knows him? first picture i got with: bald zen master research. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kōdō_Sawaki if you go for the keywords, there is a lot to learn about zen. we use to see only the mushrooms who stick out their head.

mhhh asking too many questions destroys the fun.