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not so sure if you guys got the distinction thing right. you don’t just see distinction. distinction is also not separation and it is also no difference. either distinction is just distinctive or you make distinction up.

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/the-whispering-trees-180968084/ well there is a guy in germany who wrote at least one book about how sentient trees are. and this one is also really nice: http://www.bbc.com/earth/story/20141111-plants-have-a-hidden-internet in that sense they where really way ahed of the time. much higher developed intelligence than us. they even have insects and mammals and spiders and birds doing all the work for them. too bad some of the mammals developed a separation machine. you can’t winn against the tree. https://www.ted.com/talks/suzanne_simard_how_trees_talk_to_each_other/up-next#t-810618

distinction as a way of decision making is always being distinctive about what we want and what we need and what is actually good for us as a personal growing factor.

@Mafortu because something inside of you doesn’t know the difference between killing for real and thinking it is an illusion. when did you last time play a game that wasn’t about competition? or a game where you would help someone without killing someone? a surgeon who sees his own blood might faint. an ego shooter who holds a gun will shoot without blinking an eye.

@Eyal Bor acne can also be a problem of sugar metabolism. if you want to try fasting, why not do a raw week or two or even three. eating more vegetables than fruits - if it’s sugar metabolism you have to take care of the glycemic index. (and why removing the skin from the apple before eating?)

@Outer how do you know they are not sentient? it is also not about morals. it is about respect. well maybe respect is morality. how long does it take until a tree notices you?

@kieranperez you could pick up a job where you learn some decent cooking or one where you have to chatter the whole day with a lot of different people, you could pick up a job where you learn something about different ways of logistics or about how to storage fresh food. you could pick up a job where you learn something about medicin or about sports, or a job where you have to do sports while working. you could do two different jobs in the same field, but different spiral levels and look how it feels.

@omTom is distinction a difference? maybe if you close a door and walk away. but what if you stay in distinction?

i killed this thread.

i don’t want to hijack this thread - but maybe it’s better understandable with reflecting on our ghosts or on the dead. how their souls died and why. and how parts of our soul might be a ghost. it‘s really serious and tough work - but afterwards [ ] can always watch the halloween outfit again. sorry forgot to ask: trick or treat? maybe we just take both as a lollipop treat. ?

regarding the halloween edition:

did he say we should see it as beautiful? i guess he said we should see them as love and we are them. but i can’t do that, i see where love was lacking though or where it was directed and where the suffering came from and how the suffering was handed down to me and not only to me that’s where i see. and thats where you break the handcuff and the infinity chain.

also found this (sensors cortex is a little vague here, the occipital is the visuals in the back - so it’s a little vague) as there is no brain, i just use the brain as a relational symbolic language/belief system.

i realized i get the nicotine craving also related to creative stress. what is supposed to be a different kind of stress than the pressure/fear stress. so now i am at the point where i want to understand brain waves. and how they feel like - to understand when i need what kind of wave to produce what kind of mood for myself. so i could switch between the different me‘s depending on the situation, if it is not in some kind of interaction communication flow, where i react to external/internal input. instead only by getting aware through awareness of what solves an actual problem faster. these observations seem now possible, because i got a lever on one of the brainwaves through l-theanin. it’s supposed to be producing alpha - waves. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpha_wave so what i have to figure out now, if it is a 4wave or a 10wave alpha wave? is it from the occipital lobe or the hypocampus? i suppose it‘s a 10 wave suppressing a very loose association, (i need those for exploring new factors though in mind expansion times). or did i get that wrong... another interesting point is, that alpha waves induce errors? i also really need to find out about that... maybe i need to get relaxed about making errors. but i never thought about it while being creative because it’s more about the doing than the thinking. https://www.ucdavis.edu/news/brain-wave-patterns-can-predict-blunders-new-study-finds/ i get that the alpha waves come from the occipital lobe, which is the visual center of the brain, so if i close my eyes it should make the visual imagination more intense or is it the opposite? so these studies just say that the mind gets distracted with visuals before it makes errors in prediction related tasks? so now i have to test it under meditation with a high visual note - and during a creative manual work. and compare it to the same without l-theanin. it‘s called cross experiment... well not really, because the population i‘m testing is „me“ and the controll is also „me“ so it‘s more a 2x2 but it doesn’t really matter i just want to find out for myself and not do statistics.

yes @tsuki but you could also say everything is out of order when it’s not hushing but numbing.

@Bryan Lettner why we are here, mhh? i thought to lend each other a helping hand in the backyard? and for other stuff like how to bake utopia cakes with yeast. and maybe how to knit 22shawls out of strangeloops. some that hold us warm in winter. and for the good company? well there is a questionmark.?

@Bryan Lettner ? leave chaos some room to organize itself. i wouldn’t want to create cast systems on intelligence or eq or other skills or something else - it would mean some people are more equal than others. for me every voice should have one count. who doesn’t vote has already voted, i wouldn’t say that’s high conciousness.

@Bryan Lettner and who would decide on the conciousness level? i would give that recommendation a 0.001 back to blue or even lower. but who would decide how many points i get? but it doesn’t matter because i could vote that anyways. you think turquoise doesn’t vote? then i guess you don’t know what turquoise is. and if people would get a chance to really decide over something related to money and innovation - they would vote. but i am somewhere else maybe it’s an illusion.

@Bryan Lettner could be interesting if there was a limited amount of money someone could own or use on him/herself. it could work in the sense that there was something like an obligatory foundation. the money would not be allowed to be used in the same field of expertise from where it was derived from and only used on real innovation and bulletproof against corruption through transparency and democratic voting systems. the founder would have some saying into what direction it might go in the preselection process but not have the last saying. it would be a new status symbol if someone could say i made it, my money is already running a foundation. at the moment private foundations are mostly used for turquoise washing. i find it difficult to create a new cast system based on the spiral, connected to income. as all cast systems can get abused and have been in the past. so i prefer same starting conditions for daily supply as a foundation and everything between the top and the ego as a free zone for experimentation. (who would judge someone’s stage on the spiral anyways? are we able to do it without getting corrupted?) that‘s just speculative design - and only a starting point.

ok - there is data that suggests to take the l- theanin together with coffein rich nutrients. because l-theanin is mostly a stress reducing subsatsnce (what explains the reduction of craving cigarettes as stress reducing drug), it is supposed to calm the nerves without making tired. what doesn’t mean it makes more awake in sense of tiredness - it just means it makes more attentive. so if used against anxiety it’s supposedly more against stress induced anxiety (like anxiety coming from performance/group pressure or like the dude and faceless say time/fear) can’t say anything about that (except for the craving). the dosage can go up to 400mg. so i‘m already in the upper level with 300mg.

@Moreira no that’s bullshit - no elites ever did that. or is it therefore, vegan food is available everywhere. and it’s so easy to live a healthy diet. elites support massproduction and sugar. that’s the reality. people who are clear in their mind try to find solutions. sorry i got annoyed and carried away. but where to start, with all the so called studies and opinions? there is a reason why a doctor used to analyse every case for its speciffic symptoms.

yes but a tiger is not a monkey from the trees with anal cancer (what happens to the monkey if it doesn’t know how to digest fibers anymore)

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@AMS i‘m not getting on a high horse. i‘m mostly aware of the fact that we are living mostly on cost of something or someone. you can’t only live of thin air. if you want to boil it down that direction. and i also think it’s impossible to let the whole world go vegan - but carnivore diet is ego minded and just dumb. and i even explained before that - not eating what makes you sick for a while might make you healthy. but it’s not the food that’s the cure - it’s only a side effect of what’s the real cure.

took 300mg l-theanin this morning did a short meditation and got tired again. so i slept for another hour. not sure if the l- theanin makes a difference in feeling more awake maybe not in comparison to regular tea or coffee? at least not yet. i‘ll see about the craving - have the feeling it helpes for that.