now is forever

@tsuki looking is 3 plus movement is 4. take it as i was air. exept if two dimensions means drawing a line from dot to dot.

@Flammable then do understand without the „i“ involved. if that’s the stumbling rope.

i realize how strange that sounds - as spiral dynamics seems to integrate every perspective, is it able to integrate the concept of disintegration?

@Flammable if you understand dependent arising.

self inquiry is watching the thoughts/emotions in movement, clinging to thought. while meditation is inviting to arise whatever might arise, while letting go.

hä do i need to understand that now?

well at first i just got the feeling i need to disturb you. it was not really an egoic feeling but at the same time it was. it was just an intuition - maybe the wrong one? let‘s just leave it at that ok. i‘m maybe not the right person to reflect on your mind stuff - i just saw some emotional stuff.

@tsuki because it’s not my MIND stuff. is it easier to talk about my non mind stuff than your non mind stuff?

@tsuki yes i‘ll stay out - but then why does the ego want to engage in conversation?

@tsuki no tsuki this is my space! you can talk to me here but i won’t comment on your mind stuff here. i‘m the devil tsuki - everything i touch gets touched by chaos.

that’s where i intruded.

@tsuki what is this? i mean you slam the door - because you don’t want someone to interfere? is it that? or is it some kind of invitation? what do you want to pin down tsuki? or is it the opposite?

@tsuki ok - but you need me for that?

@tsuki then go back to where you think, you‘ve lost it.

@tsuki mhhh - why do you think that? i mean why do you think you are nothing? of course you are no THING tsuki - you are extremely cool and a really nice person ♥️ and your math is kind of cute. i don’t get it all but who could write like that? question is what you want to pin down?

@Zweistein „kin“ sweety, have fun, regather your spirits ?

just thought about the gentrification and the constant discussion about integration of foreigners in germany. and about the concept of disintegration. and somehow i thought what is the shadow of the spiral? and how to integrate that: spiral dynamics disintegral.

spoiler alert: have you pined it down yet? or was it this one? ulysses to radical?

@tsuki do we need to understand that? mine was at least funny. i can’t see it. well with a little phantasy.

i‘ll shut my wifi off for today. flight mode - hope that’s metaphorical for productivity. mhhh and i‘ll try two apps to controll phone addiction: scrabbit and moment - review will follow. (even if it will not resolve why i hang around here)

@tsuki find the simplexes kind of interesting and how they evolve as polytopes. especially 6polytopes and 8polytopes - notice, the space in the middle is mostly empty. i‘m not sure if that brings you further with the ego though - this is maybe more bauhaus thinking. in general we often learn to let the space in the middle empty, maybe that’s why we often don’t look what exactly there is in the middle. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentellated_6-simplexes https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/8-simplex

oh mine as well

@tsuki that would be a dual perspective in a nondual setting? if you perceive the „gross“ senses as dualities (as a neutrality)

@tsuki somehow you are getting cute.

@tsuki why are the senses gross? why don’t i have a sense for irony without a sound.