now is forever

@kieranperez finding a new home away from your parents might be the most healthy thing you could do at the moment. solo retreat aside. i’d really prioritize that at the moment, a bird starts to fly by leaving the nest. i have experienced many shared housing situations along the way and can only recommend you trying to find a healthy shared housing - if i wouldn’t have had these, don’t know how i would have survived some situations. or why not find a green community for some months somewhere where you can work and live at the same time? i really think you need to be surrounded by loving people! if i would be your sibling i would tell you: get some distance from our parents asap - they are selfresponsible grown ups, their mess might have become our mess but you need some distance to sort it out for yourself, they won’t, as you can’t change them. don’t feel bad about leaving them in their mess, you are not ignorant about it, thats enough - be egoic for once and survive. ? love from your sis in crime wonder if they only accept people from abroad: https://www.workaway.info/hostlist-US.html?region=california

yes mikael and we are watching, we are watching how they leave love die. we will maybe watch yet another genocide on the kurds. but does it change love? does it change anything to cry like a baby how bad and ignorant the world is?

@Mikael89 there is no fantasy except the fantasy you live by. love/conciousness is like cleaning, you sometimes don‘t reach the darkest spots - but it certainly is worth reaching out for them. if you don’t want to invest love/time ok, don’t try. just give up and surrender to the content of conciousness, but don’t conflate both.

it doesn’t matter how you call it - if you call it anything you are attributing it. if you neglect it as what it is you are just suffering more. accept it - conciousness is love.

maybe you used the @ to often, now it’s sticking like glue? there where posts from you with now is forever @ now is forever (less confusing but still confusing) don‘t know about love as a dimension - yes, why not if time is a dimension love certainly would be one, too. given the rice experiment...it would not be only one experiencable by humans but could be a real dimension. but then hate would have a dimension too. neglection would have a dimension (my plants don’t like that) about your experiment, how who compensates for what, don’t know or if it even is compensation - sounds plausible in a way, though. but for example if it is nervousness it certainly is a dimension of nervousness triggered by maybe a dimension of criticism before or a dimension of being shy? i mean psychology uses to just subtract or controll these dimensions if it’s not wished for the outcome of the experiment, there is no other way in quantifying them. so it would be possible to say these would be other dimensions to measure at the same time - the nervousness dimension then would be blocking the love dimension, if the hypothesis is right. or did you mean the compensation in another dimension maybe really different dimensions like the dimensions for example one has a high score in love and another one in time? or are they even separate maybe it’s about love/time.

@Mikael89 the lake would also be duality. it also doesn’t depend on who says it if it’s duality or not.

wonder how that works out with rainbow socks

unfortunately that black and white thinking/looking is rather going in the direction of turquoise to orange. in this case you can’t choose what colour who is.

@Hellspeed be careful the ice is thin there are other things to criticize than the possibility to walk over water.

ok, so now we reached the maximal entropy ? still these lists seem to be a really good method to get aware about how spiral dynamics teachings/role models are represented in individuals of different gender - you will find that women teachings/role models are often more part of group teachings - and group teachings are often more holistic.

if love is a lake, are we the drop or are we the lake?

@Zigzag Idiot hahaha?? thanks funny as it is my dad yesterday told me: there is also the trinity of alexandre dumas.

this is where christianity gets stuck in misinterpretation what god died for.

if seen from a christian nondual standpoint the father is part of a trinity. from a non catholic point of view the trinity in the holy family - father/mother/child. doshin nelson roshi described the trinity problem as a problem of the interaction between rescuer, victim and scapegoat. a vicious circle. the statement/prayer: „father forgive them as they don’t know what they are doing“ includes all three - but it is also the perspective of the watcher. the video is a little off topic but he talked about the principle in this video:

why isn’t it: mother forgive them for they do not know what they are doing? or mother forgive them as they know what they are doing? - there are other ways stepping into the reflection of this sentence in a nondual direction, but this is one that’s often not the next one to think about.

a balanced list would include cultural and communal ethnological group teachings. the list is imbalanced, too, because it has a focus on individuals.

the mountains don’t run away, they have been here for thousands of years.

generally speaking diy material reuse or repurpose is still a really nice form of art getting people directly involved and i really like handmade tinkered stuff. so diy upcicling courses or maybe zero waste courses and events are some of the best methods to bring people from orange into more green. so if politics and industry are to slow it’s always possible to make people more aware of the topic on a significant concious level. it’s possible to make a buisness out of green upcicling courses or fab labs (also in brazil or any other country) like that. for me the direct contact with material is still the best experience. (maybe not with high explosives or uran, not only for spiritual reasons)

@Zweistein mhhh diy upcicling is nice - but in the end it is just another hobby, it’s a nice starting point though, from orange to green and certainly can be fun - but it’s far away from real upcyicling. it’s a matter of circular production and upcycling/recycling like the cradle to cradle principle. but yeah back packs made of shreddered old bottle yarn or car wheels - stuff like that, there is a lot trash to get creative. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cradle-to-cradle_design

today i moved between visual floating lines. but in reality i moved between grey clouds and landscape, flying by like a movie, small rivers and hills and villages that look like from a christmas carol - only the snow was missing what made it look less like christmas and more like moving into the past. some kind of melancholic german tristesse. but overall i was just tired.

what’s the problem with the cake? did you get a cake facial?

why again? have i been away? i didn’t notice... it’s such a big cake you know, one strawberry easily get’s lost.

what kind of cake is the lie? is it cheesecake or strawberry cake or lemon pie? or is it christmaspudding? i wonder which one is the lie - i guess it’s the one that is not there or it’s the one that is there... confused. if there is no cake but the lie cake, but it is not there because if it was there it wouldn’t be a lie cake, what kind of cake are we baking then? are we baking anyways? and who jumps out of the cake if there is no cake? maybe then there is no one to jump out of a cake because no cake no one! or is it no cake no ego?

@lmfao an autistic “brain” type is lacking on mirror neurons, as one theory - actually i read something about experiments with oxitocyn to increase the mirror neuron capacity recently, or was it growth? but you are talking about conciousness not the L word are you? so the sensitivity to what do you want to test? i don’t think autistic people are not able to love they just love differently and they just don’t really recognize the difference between a person and numbers (cliche) for example. so how do you want to induce love experience? showing pictures of people and numbers? did no one ever do that before? and i wonder if it then would only be the brain function you would measure or what else on the body? for example how would you measure what body functions are involved - and you would need to define love very limited, so you could compare it and you would need to define conciousness, too. as a function... the question is always a systemic one, also one of encoding - although there are energy knots, if you want to find something like emotion or love or conciousness or the soul in a person, good luck!

a lot of south american shamanism is rain forrest shamanism, i’m sure you can find shamans there if you go search for them, i even guess they will teach you a very direct nonduality. i guess it’s different as the ancient big cultures of south america like aztecs, maya and inca didn’t make it until now, the old cultures are subconsciously more suppressed even, they couldn’t transform their knowledge in the same way as india or most asian cultures did, due to historical reasons, so they never developed in that sense “mainstream” sages or techniques. i started to read carlos castaneda quotes like fortune cookies... in my experience the “sages” from south america i heard of - if you can call them sages, are mostly story tellers, like clarissa pinkola estes. and there is a lot to learn from ethnological research of stage purple communities and family living and how they interact with nature.