now is forever

yes. it’s also about that - so how long will it take until science as a religion is gone? how long will it take until rationality as a religion is gone? i don’t want to offend you or put you in a corner or something i just try to open your mind.

did i say something about proving religion right? no. all i wanted to show you is that: „not to my knowledge“ is not enough to proof that you are not irrational, assuming there is any rationality in life - life is highly irrational! even mathematically.

i‘m referring to the point that it’s also just a belief system. you tell yourself you are rational and know you are rational while you belief you are rational being emotional. that’s irrational. now you know.

@Andreas because there is a difference between rationality and rationality.

yeah and how is this rational?

you can’t know what you don’t know, it was about that. the statement: „not to my knowledge“ is a self referring belief. it says: „i know because that’s all i know“.

if you still know then that is irrational in itself...how can you know if you are irrational or not and reference it with not knowing?

@Rilles you are not referring to this? are you? is this very irrational?

no that’s not it. it’s really not a mindset problem in that classical way. that’s what most people maybe think. you know i live in the country where punctuality is still a legend. everything here is supposed to be really on time. except for the train. maybe i developed it out of boredom. because everything is so regulated and in order, i created chaos for the kicks. and now i can’t get rid of it anymore. although it‘s a family thing. (actually if it’s important it’s really sometimes worse) mostly i guess at the moment it’s really a lack of being organized sufficiently. still not focused enough. so it’s more about building habits.

recently i realized that i have this really bad habit of always being too late to most of my appointments. even if i schedule it right i always think of some things i still have to do before leaving the house and then i forget something and have to run back and before i even had time to look at the watch i’m already 15 minutes late sometimes even more because the subway connection then fails. i had this rule of calculating 45 minutes for every trip i make throughout the city but now it doesn’t work anymore. every time it happens i think: wow, next time you really need to prepare earlier but then it happens again. if i remember it never was much different it just got worse, it’s a family thing. i’d appreciate any advice on how to change that, i’d prefere some habitual training more than a mindset, but am open to mindsets, too. i mean you can tell me how irresponsible i am towards others and then i would feel really bad maybe, but it won’t change the situation - i already feel really bad about it every time. also wonder who has or had the same problem and what works for you best.

mhh, it’s a little bit of a women’s thing i guess. some women really try to even open and close doors with the feet even if their hands are already full

you mean it could have been a problem of generally having to handle too many things at the same time? or do you mean it is more about the high pressure, of wanting to handle everything sufficiently perfect. i’m sure it has to do with organizing things in my world, too. as it’s often about gathering things in my case... or having still to do this or that.

@mandyjw leadership is not always about a leader - democracy is not about kings or queens heaven not about gods or goddesses love not about superior or submissive and still it is. true leadership is not bound to one alone it is bound to the most wise decision. that‘s also the most wise way to lead oneself.

@Commodent your profile pic is awesome ? thanks, i‘ll try that! i also thought about trying to set myself some regular appointments where i will meet myself somewhere. trying to show up for myself on time, well 15mins earlier. maybe that could help, too. there was a time when my clock showed always the future in 15 mins. i lived 15 mins ahead of everyone. that’s really good because my inner clock is 15mins late... so i always saved half an hour. @DrewNows yes, thats a big problem... so yeah responsibility and punctuality are certainly top of the list. mind knows but does not know as there is a lot of important stuff to do and think of.

found this also very interesting - stumbled upon it while reading about the black stone in mekka. it’s kind of interesting i wonder why religious people get so angry about it? is it so bad? i mean christianity has to coap with the bunny at easter... happy easter by the way - well it’s already for tomorrow. i‘m a heathen a pagan a barbar. i believe the moon is female. long live ostara. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allah_as_a_lunar_deity

it’s because you have never known it differently. you can surrender without submitting. leadership falls naturally. i‘m far away from that still - but i know how it could be. have experienced it.

i‘m not anti religion i‘m anti inequality in everyday life. there are natural differences between men and women but i doubt that a lot of people still know what these are. i am goddess there is no god above me.

yes it’s ugly. it’s really ugly. and it’s so deep in our culture you can’t step out of this part not even really if you are outside of religion.

and thus spoke marie magdalene? don‘t get me wrong, i believe there are beautiful parts about religion but in some sense most of them are very dogmatic. the truth in them is sometimes what made them truths. my church was nature.

do you know what he means with kaaba? the kaaba or the kabah... i just realized how interesting the history of this place is. and how symbolic the spiraling around it. but he refers to an inner space doesn’t he.

yeah of course alcohol and drug abuse are the hard cases - the other ones are the invisible ones. i would also say it has to be a program that is run by psychologists and pedagogues and voluntaries but state supported, decreed and financed. the problem is really that people don’t get it, they are their children, that’s why. they don’t see that they don’t belong to them but to the universe.

a lot of abuse cases exist because people are overwhelmed/overstrained by situations they don’t have the right coaping mechanisms. meditation alone could be already helping them to stay more calm. i suspect that most cases are out of affect if it is about punching and hitting.

yeah schools are really hard to implement - also driving licenses etc. also universities. it doesn’t have to be run by the state... yes of course it’s hard to implement that’s why it’s a challenge.

well if i had something to say i‘d prescribe every parent psychological training. i‘d build a school for grown ups. but as i don’t have anything to say it will take on forever. abusers are not always creating abusers as non abusers not always create non abusers - it’s not that simple.

maybe they need to be taught to use a toilet properly?