now is forever

actually not really, because we should really understand this, i posted it already in @Zweistein journal. think it’s a basic for all dragon riders, to navigate. in the center is the body/mind/society/home if you want to make changes you can always navigate with it. you could also bring them in different order and find out what mirror’s what the best. if it’s about the mirroring. maybe you have to do some zooming first. in the end i suppose it’s about holding the balance. even thought about some kind of tool - for the wall. but i suppose i won’t have the time to make it... could be a coworking project 1.how to find love 2. how to keep love alive 3. sticking with it or going 4. how to develop potential in creating something (here it‘s related to career) 5. how to develop self-confidence 6. how to fail 7. how to develop selfawareness 8. how to interact/deal with others 9. how to be serene/composed 10. how culture can change your life 11. how to enjoy life 12. the meaning of life found it basically on the streets like a fallen leaf from a tree. if it’s recontextualised, think there would be no harm in using it.

i really would like to open some more windows - but zweistein is right. maybe mañana.

@tsuki yes of course i got that. ☺️ but isn’t it also missing the conversation then. english is just such a wonderful language to play with words. there is a middle matrioshka tsuki - always in everyone. as long as there is a little thunder left in the heart.

what kind of missing do you want to imply? sometimes you sound so arrogant tsuki and then again you are so selfreflected that it’s difficult to say anything against it. it makes it difficult to crack the nutshell. ?

mh that’s so dubble standard i better say nothing. i mean ambiguous, just didn‘t find the english word.

no it is the wheele that’s throwing them. it is the stillness in movement. it is matter vs hands together they are oneness with.............

@tsuki i‘m sure @Zweistein will give an answer, too. what about you are right, but you are not right? what if it’s all a matter of inclusion. after all reality is a paradox, we are born to die anyways, in the sense of we are trying to coap reality with the phantasy realm without even knowing to fly a dragon properly. why is it a vs anyways? you just subtracted all of us from your view. intentionally or not. i know most people communicate like that. but in zooming in you need someone who is willing to let you zoom. and all you get is a perspective. the difference between a teacher and a student lies in the way of communication. yes of course you can always take the counter perspective. and then you get the broadest „knowledge“ but you can also take both perspectives and just let them stand as they are and sink in. and get some kind of wisdom. isn‘t that the unity of opposites? speaking of tao. just referring to shaping material, where all learning started how does the art piece speak to the artist or the object to the designer shaping them at the same time? how do we learn from matter and still put our spirit into it without resistance? of course you can do icesculpting with a chainsaw... if it’s the given material. but you can also use the ceramic wheele. of both perspectives. what’s more tao? so what is a blockage of learning? a paradox? depends on where you want to go. is it a „belief“ that the world needs some kind of healing. might be if you have given up teaching. so i suppose it‘s almost the same view we are taking, with some differences in how to fly dragons.

@Zweistein ? mirrorplane - maybe we can support everyone with „fertigpizza“ ? soon. christallography, inversions etc. sounds interesting. after all this zooming i get also hungry for this topic. another day. ☺️

@tsuki hahaha so funny. the dragon also stands for the dream in general for inner difficulties of alignment - energy flow. i‘m just a little tired and then it gets messy. i see how the same might have happened to you. i mean dragons are also challenges inside your inner world. and yes it‘s better to fly one dragon a time or stick with one. two dragons are also a symbol for feminine and masculine. so i see how messi it can get if the symbol is not aligned with the context. maybe tsuki - you should find out what your dragons are.

@tsuki if it’s all just one, anyways, you can always put a mirror in between. if it‘s just your inside view. and yes there are boundaries for me - they are different dragons some of them are very concrete ones and sometimes i walk away from them or i try to stand them or i try to disconstruct them. and i just discovered the boundaries between heart and head. but there are boundaries between heart and hands or head and hands and hands and matter. between chaos and order etc. it’s better to take one problem a time but usually they seem to come all at once. i‘m also an selfactualizer you see - i‘m not a superwoman maybe in my phantasy. and i‘m working on it.

i already started to set it free, don‘t you see it, it’s just a spirit in this world.

that’s a compliment. who ever said i‘m flying alone? and mine is almost always staying at the phantasy world. it’s a creative dragon. the dragon is not the mirror but it can pass through the mirror.

first of all it belongs to the world of phantasy and leaves enough space to dream. but there are luck dragons and angry dragons and flying dragons and small dragons and huge dragons and sleeping dragons. it depends on how the dragon is tamed - but you know dragons are never really tamed. because it’s not really in their nature. don‘t ask me how to fly dragons - i‘m not there yet. but maybe it’s about the technique.

@tsuki not yet ? - hope it’s more of a dragon. and yes i can still see an elephant as an elephant when i walk through the mirror into reality.

@tsuki hmmmmmmmmmmm - but the elephant means a little bit different things in different levels... on one level it is democracy and on another level it is community and on another it’s ganesha and on the child level it‘s the protecting hand of a mother. so the elephant was there from long ago - and it’s a plant eater, i mean all elephants are plant eaters. and who needs dinosaurs, when we have dragons.

@now is forever what about you? do you feel more like a student or like a teacher? or do you change perspectives? magical zooming glasses, hehe.

@tsuki did you not find your inner child? or the stillness within? i just imagine it as zooming in and out - sticking to mirror metaphor. a little bit like alternate nostril breathing. from one world to another. the mirror is inside but there is also silence. hahaha - now i got it... you see i try to be clear water. but it might be impossible if i want to be a mirror at the same time. i was never a good student in that sense my mother always encouraged me to be a teacher.

@tsuki hahaha, yes sometimes, but i buy trash usually only when there’s at least some meaning in it. the dinosaur is not me... i‘m the elephant you see. so i nourish the elephant not the dinosaur. it’s evolution. inside dinosaurs you can often find elephants who have evolved backwards because they got so hungry they want to be mammuts.

@tsuki it was a positive response in the sense of how to approach the dinosaur. figuring out what’s junk and what not is a very good tool to communicate better with objects. not with people...well maybe with their context. you see we are talking about different zooming ins all the time. my perspective of zooming in is this:

guess what - yes. i studied at a very good design school, even though a small one. where the human is still at the center of the workspace. be it student or the people who are being addressed. i studied form until it’s deluded in many directions. i even know of solutions that would never see light because of that shadow. they just spend their shadow lifes in some cupboards. i know how hard it is to fight against that. and still often feel overpowered by it. for my personal life i often try to subtract the shadow side to hang on. if you can‘t breath you have to create space to breath. i just see that shadow space as a neglected space. it‘s a space to be reshaped - and that’s possible on a horizontal level. a level of significance. when i walk a supermarket or a shop i don’t see the trash anymore, i just see what’s good. often still buying stuff with shadow sides. so neglecting the big shadow is one of the best methods to just let it go hungry. think the rules for communication technology are a little different, because it’s a dream factory, so it’s more important to know the shadow there, but still not feed it by not using it. in a social network, thats different though. it’s an elephant vs a dinosaur.

just tried to get that... you know tsuki i’m a designer for products and i learned to work with all kinds of material - i know exactly what i’m talking to when i talk to an object. so maybe that’s why i don’t get what you say or ask here. from that perspective all information is made by people, everything is constructed by people with their heartblead. with their hands their health in the line using more or less of their dreams to get to that point where they can survive on it. in a book that starts from a tree and the writer - to the people who work on the text like editors, the people who build the machines to turn the wood into paper, build the machines to print, binding the book by hand or with machines. even the glue that’s used to bind the book. and i also know that i‘m just a tiny part of all of that. but i sit at one end of that process one of many with dreams. i don’t know what to make out of the mystical experience yet if that’s what you want to point at. i sometimes don’t know what’s real and what’s phantasy though. and how it works, and what it’s substance or form is. i just acknowledged it as process until now. i just know it works through symbols as well as through loose associations and some kind of explorative child like mindset. but what kind of real substance there is to it without putting it into form or visual inner experiences. i really have no idea. all i can say - we have a cinema inside of us, that’s driven by emotion. where that comes from or if there is something paranormal about it. and what substance it is made of is something i try to discover. until that it’s phantasy - you see i try to stick to the significant level, to not get lost in space.

oh the fool is just such a nice symbol, too. i‘m always proud to be part of that species.

hmmm... i don‘t know if i get all of it in all it’s meaning. but understanding the infinite loneliness part. on my side is not something new, just wasn’t so present anymore as an experience. we are sharing that in parallels. what‘s still difficult is teacher vs. authority.

@tsuki yes but that was when everyone else was me and i was them ? it‘s the question where in what world you are in, where you make the boundary. don‘t forget there are people who embody chaos. who says there is no order in chaos.