now is forever

living it differently, what else is it than an experience itself. only the quality changes.

just setting that up as a topic to reflect on: utopia vs dystopia. what are the pro‘s and con‘s of ai vs humanity. it‘s more a matter of: will we allow some things to happen or will we resist?

mhhh in what is creation different than action and movement? if it‘s a process? it‘s all about theory aligned with doing and embodiment, isn‘t it. how to get there is another theory though.

well but that’s a point... too. being free - if you are truely free you might start taking non might start creating the wrong, might never find at least some and get lost on the sea. @Hearteker so at least find yourself a star that is bright enough to guide you a way. old greek wisdom

@PhilGR just get really good in that job and find exeptions from the mainstream. if you are specialized back to the future, that means also finding out about niche nutrition, you will always have a job. i almost predict you, where you catched that up, they didn’t have a christal ball. if they start to exchange lawyers and doctors into ai i would leave the country.

@tsuki i‘m not sure what you want to say if i found stillness in motion, and motion in stillness. could you explain? did you find motion in stillness, and stillness in motion?

i guess if nothing is holy nothing is holy, if nothing is holy there is nothing wholly. something has to be holy, we are lost if not.

no you didn’t give a sufficient answer. if you give up answering you make yourself the one who is not worth answering. it’s the right question and the right answer, that forms unity. if you predict the answer while someone is answering accordingly to the wish it‘s of course not the right answer, because then you could have answered it yourself. so if someone intuits the right answer and asks a question the question will not stop until you figured it out by yourself in a self sufficient way. but what about getting the right answers when it wasn’t even initially you asking the questions? who then did answer the question? still you because you figured out to ask for them. but it’s still a unity that made it happen.

the feeling of being responsible for something we couldn’t prevent. maybe foresee, too.

you know that it means you corner yourself. because you corner others.

@tsuki no i didn’t want to corner you... you cornerd me yourself. i surrender to questions every time. why do you think children are the best teachers? thank you @Zweistein i use to forget asking questions.

@tsuki no logic is not a feeling. it can be but you have to place the heart over the head.

@tsuki realize how greedy you are. you are still playing chess. you are still playing the game of logic. as long as you are a stone hunter, kali will eat you up.

@tsuki you are playing check. but don’t forget the king can’t move. do you think it will make the world better by removing all queens from the field? i wonder how many you want to throw until you are sattisfied. it’s a warning.

@tsuki i don’t feel strong enough for that, maybe yet. and somehow i like naive art. and i like staying a child. not knowing is beautiful, i’m just reciting. i don’t want the world tsuki. i want the world by not wanting it all. that’s a way of centering, that’s surrender too.

@tsuki no for me it’s the opposite. i’m loosing more and more during this conversation. because i already arrived there. so all you do is taking it away. until there is no emotion left - as long as you are not able to distinct between the two anymore. because there is a golden thread. of knowledge now - it’s the infinity thread. if you take it away it will be gone forever. you see not just for now. it’s not me who has to surrender, men have to surrender to that fact.

i don’t want to not feel anything at all... that’s a choice tsuki. and that’s the last pointer.

truth feels connected, lies feel disconnected.

maybe i should have stopped zooming... it all turns out to be like a lie and still it isn’t. that’s the heart vs the mind boarder you just closed the mirror for a moment.

@tsuki bugging could mean different things.... it’s some kind of weird though and my head is like a ? right now if its as ambiguous as i’m thinking of it. quiet manipulative. maybe i don’t want to know more - but at the same time... that’s the problem about knowledge vs. beliefs. what would mean in zweisteins words knowledge =belief i maybe don’t want to zoom into that. i would rather stick with believing in buddha.

@tsuki unless you see them

@tsuki yes they are same in rejection of the human non healthy alignment with nature. maybe i’m missing something. maybe i use to miss everything else. hahaha it’s the non linearity... maybe...

@Zweistein mhhhh i don’t know. it’s difficult, thought about waves at first - but then we would have to name them differently - you know something like a spiral with two strings. with the time axis in the center. + is conscious and – is subconscious 3d would be better maybe and maybe the spiral axis is a curve, too. ..... just a thought.

ok tsuki i see what you are pointing at, if you want to refer to the human body itself - but i’m talking about the significant level. stop trying to delute that, because i can tell who didn’t stop zooming on the heart and who stopped. so always concentrate on the heart. that’s real growth. you can always zoom back to the heart. but it’s not the shell it’s the only thing that holds it all.

mhhh yes - originally solid green rejects status - look at the hippie’s they lived in caravans and in communities. so solid green rejects status. well they had their tribal symbols, but it was not about statuts. so you got me right. but green in germany is really different than in the us. the greenest of the green are the escapists/dropouts of society who live in the forest. mhhh just realized escapist and dropout and breakaway in german is the same word.