James123

When I look at the animal, it is pure survival mechanicsm, like perfectly programmed as movie matrix. Humans are attached with thinking, therefore, it seems to them they are special species. Yet, enlightenment reveals, our body programmed same as an animal, flower, just to survive. Yet, many people assumption is this stuff is being a robot, negative way. Actually, it is completely opposite, life flow itself, and any living creature that contains life, is based on survival, it is how water is programmed to flow. And combination of all these love itself. Because, water has no purpose, if there is no living creature to drink it, living creature has no purpose if there is no survival. Yet, it seems separate for so called separate self, but, Everything combined and mixed with live together, and that what Love is. Only way to free live is lifting the veil, stop listening the mind. With this way, mind becomes simple living creature with body. And mind has its own / perfect knowledge of itself.

Find yourself in that body, But not as I am the energy in body, or molecule, or in brain, literally point out that is you. then we will talk. I tried, but really can't help you. Mind conquered you. Good luck.

İf you really believe that observer doesn't vanishes, that i was right. You are not even in the beginning of spirituality. You can not be open the source, because You are already. There is no distance, therefore, no need to act, just Being is enough. It is most difficult for you to do, because mind is too active. You will waste entire life. Instead of try to preach, be brave enough to die, then body will teach itself.

Different methods, but path is only one.

@Ziran Moreover, many people say that I talk like an asshole, meanwhile not to You, I am talking like to one who get defended.

Guys, I really respect all of you who are putting effort and time into this path such as god realization, the infinite, nothingness, etc. But why wasn't there a god before physical birth? Ok, let's say that physical birth is an illusion and you experience everything via consciousness. Why does an experience only take place while the body is alive? Or let's say that you experience infinite times, or that you are everything. some of you call it infinite consciousness, why are you, and why were you, only conscious of this specific reality while the body is alive? Why do all these realizations come through only when the body exists? Including reincarnation, it is learned through the mind, which belongs to life. So when the mind dies, what will happen to reincarnation? For instance, 99% of you consume psychedelics and realize what god or the infinite is; the body consumes a substance and you have a realization of this stuff. Why were you never conscious of these things before the body existed? So when the body and mind die, what will be left? The mind invents these lofty concepts to try and escape its own expiration date.

Your god is a concept, based on knowledge and experience. Tell me an experience that you did not realize trough the body and mind. Psychedelics: body consumes psychedelics, dreams: body is in sleep, being awake: body is aware. So just fucking tell me an experience, that doesn't happened with in this life, I say this life because of the body and mind. Otherwise just shut up.

Absofuckinglutely. You are 💯 percent correct. Let the mind flows the direction as life - force. That's what all i am saying. By the way, when there is no identification with mind, context of thinking and frequency of thinking dramatically changes. Thinking becomes like breathing, or liver functioning. I am not defending whatsoever. I just tell directly for the people who are in the path, are they being bitch of the mind or not.

Not mine, yours 😘

İt is the same as not attachment to thoughts, which is diets. But you can never control. Try to not to heart beat or liver function for 2 minutes. (As your mentioned to make it slave) You guys have no idea what you are talking about. At least, just listen.

Trying to control the mind is, like trying to control liver function.

When I look at the animal, it is pure survival mechanicsm, like perfectly programmed as movie matrix. Humans are attached with thinking, therefore, it seems to them they are special species. Yet, enlightenment reveals, our body programmed same as an animal, flower, just to survive. Yet, many people assumption is this stuff is being a robot, negative way. Actually, it is completely opposite, life flow itself, and any living creature that contains life, is based on survival, it is how water is programmed to flow. And combination of all these love itself. Because, water has no purpose, if there is no living creature to drink it, living creature has no purpose if there is no survival. Yet, it seems separate for so called separate self, but, Everything combined and mixed with live together, and that what Love is. Only way to free live is lifting the veil, stop listening the mind. With this way, mind becomes simple living creature with body. And it has its own / perfect knowledge of itself.

This is the key. Now real path begans @Mellowmarsh 😘 😊

Absofuckinglutely. Absofuckinglutely.

İt is neither important nor not important. Experience belongs to body, that's all. When one realizes that experience, knowledge, thinker belongs to body and mind, what is left?

No, you are not the observer. Observer is an action, like attachment to thinking. Even observer vanishes. Be witness till witnesser vanishes.

Or realization that what born and will die is body or universe, and You are always what You are, not even moved nor began.

Enlightenment is, not only for me, but for everyone; Simply Being where You already are.

Mind is like a small child, gets bored from stillness.

@Breakingthewall you are not even close to enlightenment. For enlightenment, you are not even beginner. Just stop talking man. Just fucking stop.

Logic belongs to body, there is not a person in body. Anything and everything arises and falls within You, but you are none. Body experiences sun too. You are not the experience, if you are, shine like a fucking sun. @Breakingthewall @Nemra Forgot even experience, even if you are attached a word, you are a little bitch of the mind.

Understanding, intelligence are all minds function. It seems like you wont realize it till death. Good luck to you.

Experience is temporary, and belongs to body. Whatever you experience, doesn't matter.

All what you said is bullshit. If you really think that experiencing doesn't belong to body, hold your breath for 3 minutes or put a big stick to your ass. And the see how your perception changes 😂 😆 😂 😂 😂 Definitely. Yet is not an experience. All experiences are temporary, because it belongs to body. And that's all this thread about.

Of course it is a memory. If there is no memory, how to remember the words? 😂 Let's give an major electroshock to your mind or put you in anesthesia , or cut your head, let's see will you remember anything 😂 Bunch of fucking retarded here man 😂 I can't handle it 😂 I am out 😂