James123

Not ignorance, letting go. You think that both perspectives are true. No it is not. From that perspective there is no reason for you to become conscious of what you are, just have a regular human life. Otherwise enlightenment process stays as hobby and ego loves that. Entertainment.

Consciousness is way deeper than so called body-mind relation. Otherwise these talks just stay as an religion, belief or ideology. Directly become conscious of what you are is must. Good luck to you brother. Peace!

It is not , i dont know it is, there is no “i” or “anyone “ to know. Knowing is a belief itself as an “I” or “anyone”.

It takes to let go. Try to do is hard but not doing is easy. It is not. You think it is, thats why is. Thinking, evaluating or understanding never dissolve the ego, only love everything as you and let go does it. From this perspective, ego can take control of you easily, because you made it as something real or powerful, instead of thought process. Just love everything as it in any situation. Easier.

It is not the ignorant way. it is nothingness, which is not knowing, being.

Who told you that you are human? Is it them directly being conscious of it or something that they have learned? If you never learned that you are born, can you be born? Whatever makes you happy. However, ego is like a roller coaster. Specially at bad times, becomes so vulnerable. Operating from ego is suffering. But whatever makes you happy.

There is no going or coming back. You are already where you are and what you are as always been. There is no eyes. Rest is a thought process. Such as As you can see, you are Still naming and labeling.

Experiencing ego death is not enough for enlightenment. You must go deeper till to there is no “you” to think, understand, experience and evaluate, till just be. The reason why you become larger, after ego death you realize that eyes dont see anything or there is no eyes, you are this, the moment. However, thought process doesnt stop and you keep name and label what you are. However, what you are can not be name and label, understand, seen nor point out to, can just “BE”.

@neovox good for you. But enlightenment has nothing to do with personal experience, expectations, thoughts nor achievements. It is counterproductively, When “I” drops enlightenment happens.

@mw711 not knowing is the highest certainty. Absolutely true. Confusion is just a thought, not even. However, it seems too early for you. Go step by step.

For you. Hope it helps. Peace!

@Vision Best choice!

This is not words, nor you are in universe. Word of illusion is an illusion itself. Label is never being applied, have to mention as an label because you still think that you are alive and in universe. If you are aware that now is before birth, there is no such a thing as label, word, universe nor you. Saying labeling to labeling is a labeling itself.

No mind= No self = Nothingness =God =No duality = Now

❤️??✊Definitely. Loving whatever comes, the most efficient way to destroy the ego. Love is beyond the bad, good and self.

Bad trips have great benefits to surrender the “I”. Because, “I” (ego) is having a bad trip, not you. You are already what you are. Be witness of the monkey mind, which feels, talks, evaluates and sees during the bad trip or names and labels as a bad trip according to feelings or experiences. But, you can not be experienced, you can just “be”.

Anytime ❤️??✊

Including reality is labeled and constructed. Not knowing is all there is, as before birth. Knowing and belief of an “I” biggest illusion, including the word of illusion is the illusion itself.

Thats where you are stuck at. Including Birth of the child is naming and labeling, or knowing.

The real question is, if you never learned that you born, can you be born? You can say okey it is not a birth, but some action take place, as child coming. If you never learn whatever you say, hear, understand (even word of understanding) , what can you know? Forget everything that you have learned and try to find yourself. Anything you say is a thought process, comes from knowing and understanding. But the word that you cant even see, is it a sound, word, air or just movement of mouth? Is it direct experience? Don’t forget direct experience comes from directly being, not evaluating, understanding, feeling nor seeing. Anything you feel, see, understand, knowing comes from so called “I”. If there is no “I”, what is left?

Oh. Lol. Sorry. ?

If you think that you are alive instead of thought process, not even close to enlightenment.

@PureRogueQ you never born. Peace!

Thats not being in the moment. Being moment is being before birth , after death and now. Moment is way deeper than you can even imagine. If “I” is there, questioning is inevitable. Even if you don’t have now, 1 second later it will arise.

Yes, for questioners ?