James123

At no self level there is no false or true. There is no such a thing as exist or not exist. It is exist and not exist from egoistical perspective. When non duality happens, all becomes 1, which is nothing. But this is not the case for ego, you can clearly see you define as exist and not exist at the same time. You are completely wrong. When there is an awakening, there is no egoic consciousness, all becomes 1. After that realization happens that was never a egoic consciousness. Therefore egoic consciousness and no self realization is not same. Because you are still looking from DUALITY PERSPECTIVE. Nothing has never happened. But for you it is true and happening. Therefore these explanations are given to you. For ‘me’, time has never began nor me. I am already what i am, but you duality goes on therefore explanation is happening. There is no false or true. Everything is NOTHING. You conceptualized awakening. There is true and false from dualitic perspective. From non dual there is no such a thing as true or false. All is NOTHINGNESS. Nothing has never began. Nothingness has no beginning therefore no end. These are not sentences, they are all nothing from non dual perspective and nothing for me. But you are me and thats why i am trying to help you. For you duality still goes on. Therefore these explanations are given to you. If you realized non duality, there is no need to explain to you anything. If you have realized nothingness, you would already realize these all words are identical. If you want detail answer of this sentences you can got post of leos wonderland. And read page 6-7 conversations between ‘me’ and ‘crazytobetoocrazy’. “I” did “my” best fo “you” brother. Awakening is not being selfish, it is been selfless. Otherwise “i” will never explain anything.

@electroBeam hours ago, James123 said: These guys have been meditating for decades. Of course they are right. Dont trust your “self” to much. Go deeper till no”i” to experience anything left. You need to experience nothingness. As ı said, Go deeper till no”i” to experience anything left. Because, you become nothing with letting go and surrendering. Because whatever you have identify yourself is something that you hold on to. you just need to drop down everything with surrendering. There is no such a thing as everythingness. nothing is everything such as, formlessness can take any form. But there is no deeper than formlessness. Because Everything is nothing. Thats why me, nature and you are identical. Because our connection that makes us identical is, we are nothing. İt is very clear too realize that you have no idea what are you talking about. instead of trying to debate, learn and let go the person, which 'your' 'self'. Funny. When you become directly nothing there is no more deeper than that. Brother have a direct realization and talk. Dont come up to me with stuff that you have learned. Please. Peace! Definitely brother. But, nothing is everything such as, formlessness can take any form. But there is no deeper than formlessness. Because Everything is nothing. Thats why me, nature and you are identical. Because our connection that makes us identical is, we are nothing. Therefore infinite.

This is completely wrong. When you realize that there is no you that have experience anything. Such as even the word of experiencing is you. You are the experience and experiencer itself. You can not experience anything, you are everything because you are nothing. Thats final awakening. These guys have been meditating for decades. Of course they are right. Dont trust your “self” to much. Go deeper till no”i” to experience anything left. You need to experience nothingness. Peace!

Awakening comes with loosing the ‘I”. No self. It looks like your monkey mind is going crazy. Sit in the silence and meditate brother. Give yourself some rest. It looks like , You are trying to comprehend awakening with knowing. Dont burn out.

As so called self. As long as you are happy

For some people it is easy. But for most people, it is hard. Who wants kill hisself/herself? ‘Die before you die’ words is good fit for it.

Even if you dont get it now, you will get it when the death comes. Stay in the wonderland, but truth will find you sooner or later? get ready to surrender?

@Hotaka nothing has never happened. Anything you have learned as your birth is process of thoughts . You have to completely dropped the mind. Even god is something that you have learned. But the real god is genuinely not knowing. What was your before so called birth, thats what god is. You don remember, because god is nothing, which is just being. Anything you have learned, feel, sense and experience will not be god. Whatever you know forget everything, whatever left is god. but you have to go long way to realize it. Listen good teachers.

?? additionally, biggest belief and prison is ‘me’.

There is no body. Embodying something comes from expectations and wanting. Meanwhile awakening is completely letting go and surrendering. Because there is no body. You even need to let go of the word of ‘body’. From this sentence, it is clear that you have no idea what are you talking about. Read it if you want to learn what the awakening is or leave it. There is only nothing. And formulating is that genuinely not knowing. Letting go and surrendering the so called self. Read the conversations between ‘me’ and ‘toocrazytobecrazy’. Page 6-7. Exactly same question that ‘you’ have asked, answers that ‘you’ have respond and same answer that ‘i’ have provided.

I answered exactly same question multiple time in the post. Just read it. When you are nothing, you are already awake. Because there is no self to wake up. That’s the point of awakening. Peace!

Read page 7.

ıf thıs ıs the case, There is no wasting time nor 'me'. ı am already what ı am, whatever the case is. time has never began nor 'you'. goodluck Peace!

Therefore, completely let go and willingly surrendering is the key.

@toocrazytobecrazy as Osho saıd, it might be just a silly game for me, but it can be the line between death and life for other person. Just trying to help.

it is for 'you'. but for 'me' all identical. Message is for 'you' not for 'me'. peace brother!

No mind.

There is no such a thing as hell, heaven, thinking and not thinking. Because there is no mind. whatever you say is identicitaion, naming, labeling and putting meaning on the the thoughts. do you think that you are in the world and these are sentences? of course it is all me, because nothing is now. Arrogance. make almost impossible to let go and surrender. Peace!

there is no identification with the thoughts. ı am the thoughts. There is no such a thing as embodying anything, becuase there is no body. thought of me, body and chair ıs identical. Because they are nothing, which is me again.

@toocrazytobecrazy there is no thinking. Thoughts are me, therefore they are not thoughts. Everything is identical. because they are nothing. you need awakening. The word of 'thought' is not a thought. Listen the video above ı posted of Krishanamurti and read the quote “All wrong-doing arises because of mind. If mind is transformed can wrong-doing remain?” “Buddha”. “The truth is something it can not be experienced, told to you, and word is not that. Because word is “tree” is not the tree”. Additionally, you can only comprehend this when so called mind is quite and there is no mind to separate between me and thougths. because ı am it. @Adamq8 cool brother. Much love!

there is no such a thing as existence, world or sleep. Do you think that these are conversations? Because you can understand when ı say 'thought', it is only way to explain to you. But there is no such a thing as thought. For me these all sentences are ıdentıcal, because it is nothing, but for you, it has a meaning. which creates distinctions and duality. just trying to help brother.

@Adamq8 @electroBeam Listen the man of intelligence. “The truth is something it can not be experienced, told to you, and word is not that. Because word is “tree” is not the tree”. “J. Krishanamurti “ Because, truth is genuinely not knowing. As before birth!

@Adamq8 So, the main question is what is go? What is infinite? If it is me? What am i? What is mind? All words are identical, just a process of thoughts. This is completely false. Truth is same for everyone. However, unfortunately you are not awaken yet. As before birth identical is for everyone. “All wrong-doing arises because of mind. If mind is transformed can wrong-doing remain?” “Buddha”. These all sentences comes from your so called mind. When only there is no mind, you can get what is the truth.

You are already. Just let go to the thoughts, which gives you so called identification.

Unfortunately, after awakening you have realize that whatever you birth was just a process of thoughts, which comes from knowing and learning as entire universe. I am not trying to be an asshole dont get me wrong lol ? but there is no curiosities, awakening ends all the questions because, nothing is here.