James123

I respect that. But, there is a point that not even appreciation appears, entire story dissolves. Much love.

There is not a self that goes or comes back to source. There is always source, yet attachments creates the story as yours.

Where is it?

İmagine that not remembering anything, what will be you?

You=remembering.

No.

Yes. İmagine before physical birth, that's it. And it is actually still and always. Truth is sky, universe is clouds.

İt is not exist or not exist. Any given name is not it. No there is no me that goes beyond mind. İt is not a state, not an experience. Just imagine before birth, that's it. Literally there is nothing there. No words or experience can pass. Disseappearing for ego, simply Being as/for Truth.

As names, yes. But, Be, no. Because, it can't be named, known or experience. Mind can't grasp/enter.

Anything you know of, speak of, experience of temporary.

İt is actually so easy, the most easiest thing. When one actually understands the way to defeat ego, one doesn't act, spend effort or trying to understand something, one just simply watches, effortless. This is just actually resting, even deeper then sleep. Therefore, it is so easy, therefore we cannot "do" it. And by the time sometimes as a flash light, maybe firstly 1 second, after 1 minute and after 1 hour, body is it's own (and you disseappear ) only you appear when there is an attachment. That's actually what living as enlightened being is. Not something fancy, glamorous etc... But completely disseappearing.

İt is exactly like this: body moves, earth rounds, birds flies. Life has it's own movement already. As me trying to involve or control, then suffering starts. İf you do not involve, you disseappear. Dropping all ownership, including a having an idea. This is little bit complex. İt is actually this: what you gain since birth, loosing everything, every peace of knowledge (and that's what is you, created you or accumulation of you). Ego is form of knowledge, which is created by experiences, feelings etc... Actually, body feels and experience yet breaking point is when there is no owner, your universe dies, only universe continues. So, You always what You are. Universe arises with body and falls with body.

Enlightenment or awakening is realization of you are not the body, mind or universe. Then whatever left is what You really are.

Listen, so simple. Body borns and will die, eyes sees, fingers writes. And any knowledge and experience is belongs to body itself. Because, when you look closely, forget even the functioning of the body (liver, heart etc..), you can't even control your thought process. So, it is not not thinking, empty mind etc... But it is leaving the body and mind alone. How can one do that? Simply observing, not reacting to any thoughts or experience (not as body, but as attachment to thoughts). Let thoughts appears, mind goes crazy, body hurts, gets hungry, just simply watch. There is a body, mind and universe, but temporary, comes and goes. But You never.

That's what enlightenment is. Being not dead, but not born. Do not try to understand, be witness, who tries to understand. Step back of the body.

İf I never born, how can I know anything? But, body born itself, breathe itself, know itself and live itself. Where is your place in the body? Just try to find it, point out.

Exactly. İt cant. Therefore, imagination belongs to body and mind, not You. Not even dead, You never even born. What was before psychical birth, You are still that, only body is born. You are always same. Body will die, You are always same. Therefore, reincarnation or after life is none sense.

No. Ask this, who knows?

How body born itself, learn itself and dies itself. Same goes for knowledge. Did you choose to body to born? No. So, even claiming as knowledge that knowing or knowing as being belongs to control or ego. Just imagine body is dead. What can you claim or know?

Body is body, apple is apple and orange is orange. Knowledge is knowledge. I don't need to see them, they are there without me.

İt doesn't need it. You claim something doesn't belong to you. Therefore, you suffer, so give back you.

Yes. Therefore, firstly question who is asking. No. Yet, they arises and falls within You.

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Find yourself in body and forget these all energy or layer stuff. Reading, learning, experiencing, all comes and goes. Peace.

İf you learn, what are you gonna get? More ideas? Peace.