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@Pouya Definitely brother i have a question for you. During the direct non duality, i am having very clear direct experience with being as nothing but aware. Additionally, i cant feel anything, there is nothing something as me but all is me. But after the experience, my ego feels hurt, non duality comes to heavy on my ego, because it is seriously nothing. Feels like i am directly killing myself. Lol. I stay focus at that moment, recover myself as non dual and get out from ego. Do you have similar experiences after non dual experience?

Cool brother. Thanks for honest answer.

@Rilles your question was, what is thought made out of from? Which is a direct and clear question. The answer that you got satisfy with is the type of answer as saying nothing or I don’t know. No one maybe knows it. But if you did get satisfied with this answer, you shouldn’t ask the question in the first place. Waste of time. We are here to learn and discover.

Hi my friend. I have a very similar experience with you. I had a direct non dual experience through meditation last month. In my mind, i had only one sentence that “i want to go back”. As soon as I told myself that i am nothing, and surrender myself. And suddenly hit non duality. After that i felt that there was no one to talk to, here is nothing and didn’t think to tell anyone, because there was nothing inside of me to say. i have never felt love through meditation (only felt when i am on psychedelics). But i had 2 direct non dual experience thorough meditation with the feeling that nothing is inside of the body and this place is huge emptiness. There was nothing to feel and noone, who can feel something. It was too deep that I forgot to think. I was functioning like a robot.

@WHO IS I was about to die 3 times. As you said thats i said myself “something is with this life, it is not supposed to be end this easy way”. Because the answer is you are not even this body and not here. You dont feel pain but body does, and you did associated yourself with the body. Additionally, if there was no evil, how can goodness, if you cant get sick, how can you die? If everyone knows that they are god, hoe can duality be existed? If human kind dont die, it will be end of the world or human civilizations. Everything needs each other and balance itself. I am telling you this stuff not because i want to convince you to feel that i am right. I am just telling you patiently because you are me.

@WHO IS bird is god too, bird can fly. The person who killed someone or who got killed is god too. Thats why it is equal, and everything balance each other. The symbol that snake eats its own tail. Universe is god too, it cant get old, it is expending non stop. additionally, god created this so called world only for feeling of loneliness and love. From infinite (anything you can or cant imagine) because of 2 feelings this world is exist now. You can imagine the rest.

@WHO IS because, it is infinite. Whatever you can or cant imagine is god . It can be looser, winner, enlightened, alien, sun, all powerful or the girl that who just get raped. God is god and devil at the same time. Because, it is INFINITE.

Thoughts are used as a tool by the ego, but they are not made by the ego. Identification with thoughts is what creates ego. We Are both talking about same thing. Only the difference, survival instinct is created the first ego and after that thoughts. Because, any creature or animal has a survival instinct, which let them to create them own ego (Or natural instinct created the purpose of them life). But in these examples, we cant talk about they think or not. And according to biology humans are %100 animal. So we comprehend and named this situation as thinking that is an assumption of humans, even saying that we are human. Lol. Or we are behaving with our natural instinct, and we call it as a thought. Thats what i believe.

Thought is made by so called ego, which is an illusion. If you have no thoughts, there will be no you or life.

When i close my eyes, i created the apple in my thoughts. But it is existed within nothingness (no color just nothingness , if you imagine the color, which is created by and within nothingness). So, I believe, thoughts are not there. Thought is like a stupid sound.

There is no thoughts. Just the body itself.

@Osaid you imagine them you cant see them. I cant find myself in the body. Where are you? Not in the brain. And you can find your thoughts with your imagination? Lol if you stop thinking, no thoughts will be left and you will be gone.

Im talking about your thoughts. Look at them. Either theyre there or not. Its about you not me. What are they made of? Lol. Great question. I believe, They made by survival instinct or ego. Because, thoughts are about being worry of future thats the root of the ego and survival instinct. Ego is an illusion, therefore thoughts are not there.

This place is a dream. Only a sleeper considers it real. Then death comes like dawn, and you wake up laughing at what you thought was your grief. But there's a difference with this dream. Everything cruel and unconscious done in the illusion of the present world, all that does not fade away at the death-waking. It stays, and it must be interpreted. All the mean laughing, all the quick, sexual wanting, those torn coats of Joseph, they change into powerful wolves that you must face. The retaliation that sometimes comes now, the swift, payback hit, is just a boy's game to what the other will be. You know about circumcision here. It's full castration there! And this groggy time we live, this is what it's like: A man goes to sleep in the town where he has always lived, and he dreams he's living in another town. In the dream, he doesn't remember the town he's sleeping in his bed in. He believes the reality of the dream town. The world is that kind of sleep. The dust of many crumbled cities settles over us like a forgetful doze, but we are older than those cities. We began as a mineral. We emerged into plant life and into animal state, and then into being human, and always we have forgotten our former states, except in early spring when we slightly recall being green again. That's how a young person turns toward a teacher. That's how a baby leans toward the breast, without knowing the secret of its desire, yet turning instinctively. Humankind is being led along an evolving course, through this migration of intelligences, and though we seem to be sleeping, there is an inner wakefulness that directs the dream, and that will eventually startle us back to the truth of who we are. RUMI

I believe, main question is how can we know that thought is exist. It is an internal dialogue that we can never see or prove to someone else. I am not talking about non duality. Even in duality, thoughts are impossible to see or recognize by other or even by yourself.

Thats the reason why i am saying that they are us, who find access to speed of light, which makes it possible to go to other dimensions, and to live in the same world as us but they are just coming from future. If they are us, definitely they know %100 percent about emotions or theories. Because they are our advanced model. They are just analyzing us, how we do for homo sapiens.

Lyon cant eat apples or vegetables, they have to eat only meat to survive. According to biology humans are animals. Maybe it is our nature and our nature is like a virus? I believe human race is a virus.

I believe, If you consider theory of relativity, gravity, time travel and dilation, and space and time, we are them ancestors. They are the human beings, who could access speed of light. According to theory when you reach at speed of light, you can realize that past, present and future are happening at the same time. Alien technology has definitely something to with anti gravity, which is the theory of tesla. They are coming from future but they are our grandchildren's. Additionally, they look like human beings. They are highly intelligent than us and communicate with the telepathy, which is possible even as a human being (me and my ex gr did it when we were on shrooms lol). Look at homo sapiens and us. Alan watts says that homo sapiens ate shrooms thats how they transformed themselves. And look at us, shrooms changed my life (I couldn’t expend my brain in a 10 life time as shrooms did in 1 month). Additionally, i had a direct experience with your profile picture. Lol

@WHO IS definitely. In the experience that you will have, nothing, god, creation is all love. Unconditional love. Only way to reach there being selfless as prophets Or as enlightened people thats why they brought religion here, and try to make people selfless. Thats the only way to reach the truth. As result of this experience, you are me, i am you, you love yourself thats why you love me, because you are everything you love everything as you do yourself now. And all creation is love, we all love and one. How can you have better world than this? Everyone Lives for each other because when you look at me, you will see yourself, can you have any selfish or bad behavior towards me (which is you)? Thats why it is called as being unity, and you are universal mind.

If no one told you, can you know that you are exist? Why all the prophets, enlightened people or most selfless people talk about same conclusion as us? Check sufism, buddhism, lost 17 years of jesus or kabalah. How can answers be all the same?

If you realize the truth, you will realize that you are the consciousness, only thing can be exist and not exist at the same time. You created me but you are me and i am you. It is not about sensing, it is about directly being as nothing and everything. If you dont die as a ego, you cant take shape of other forms. We dont have direct experience with the truth as ego. Ego, which is you must be die to become the truth. If you ask me how can you die? Because you are alive in your thoughts. Lol If you dont think can you be exist? Thats why meditation is so important for awakening. You have to what the monkey mind is. You cant understand derivative if you dont know simple and basic transactions. You should start to meditate.

@WHO IS i had non dual experience through meditation 2 times and the last breakthrough was last month. I couldn’t talk to anyone, because there was nobody to talk, nothing within the body to talk and nothing to say. Conclusions are the same. All is one, nothing and everything. Just tell me where are you in the body? you cant find yourself, because you are nothing and not in the body lol

Damn you haven't had any mistical experiences of the real Self before that? That have been brutal recognizing that truth in a 15 hour high dose trip. Jesus! I did 2, 4, and 6 gr shrooms before 10 gr. I realized everything with 6 gr too, but 10 gr was timeless ( 1 minute passed like a year). I was in non duality for 3-4 hours non stop, shrooms peak must be max 45 min and in 15 hours passed like thousands of life times lol. It totally pierced me.

@blankisomeone If everyone knows they are god, nothing, and all is one. How can you duality? Everyone will be it as non dual. No one will tell you that you born, are girl or boy, you will have no name, no future, no past, no desires and goals. You wont even have a goal to be god or change the world, because everyone is it.