James123

It seems, you are beginning of this process. Just contemplate, meditate, let go, learn and love for right now. ? is there any water or anyone here? Good luck!?

You created, because “you” “think” “ the word of creation “ and the rest. If you dont think nothing never happens. If you dont think you realize you never come in first place, thats why going or coming back is impossible, because again they are still something that you have learned. Enlightenment is just being where you already are, as always been. Thats it. ? Additionally, when you think, firstly you thinking yourself as real. ? and after that rest of thought process comes. Such as when you say universe, you exist as human being and have thought about universe. But “I” is an illusion itself. So thoughts are thinking the thoughts.

These all stuff actually you dont have but something that you have learned. Who told you that, how can they be sure? Is something that you directly become conscious of it or something you have learned? Anything you know and learn is a thought. Dont take it necessary. Naming, labeling and giving meaning the words so called create so called reality. Forget everything that you have learned, whatever left is what you really are as always been. So called Knowledge can never take granted. Even “I”, or “universe “ is an knowledge itself.

What is me, everything, experience or memory? Where is your experiences, memories or everything? Eyes dont see anything or there is no eyes. Big bang is a nice theory. Just imagine big bang has never happened, it is only and can happened because of thought process. Including theory of Big Bang is thought itself.If you dont think you are before big bang, Now and nothing has ever happened. Again being exist or non existence is a thought itself. Whatever you speak about is something that you have learned. But you and now can never be learned or experience, can just be.

If you think, it gets real, dont forget real is a thought itself. If you never learn anything, including yourself, what could be your reality or you? Universe, record, experiencing is a thought or ego itself. If you realize what is the identical point of between deep sleep, before birth and now, you realize anything comes from so called mind (including word of mind) is an illusion itself. You are what you are and where you are as always been, not even moved nor began.

@Javfly33 nice!!! Love is the biggest superpower. Try to love everything as you, big damage to ego.

Birth has never happened. Birth, death is just a thought itself. Now is before birth and after death (if you dont think). Nothingness is now. There is no such a thing as going or coming back. Instead of thought process. There is no such a thing. Anything you say is something that you have learned, including yourself. Knowing is the greatest illusion, including knowing the word of “illusion “. These stuff just comes from so called knowledge, if you never learn yourself , including birth, can you born?

@Someone here whatever you think thats what your reality (ego) is. If you dont think thats what You are is.

Definitely. ??

Additionally, after enlightenment, you no longer stuck in thought process, day dreaming or future expectations. So called mind transforms and no longer operate from the self. You still control the self but not stuck in the prison of the self and free as the moment. You operate from the source no longer from ego. Ego is just a so called device to connect to duality. Thats it. Such as , entire duality or world becomes a thought process, like too small, world no longer bothers “you”, because self is within that “world”, “thought “. You become the moment and just thought arises, you are not the self that think the thoughts. Thats what enlightenment is. “Permanence” or “impermanence” become just a thought as “tea”. All wrong-doing arises because of mind. If mind is transformed can wrong-doing remain? Buddha

You are nothing. And that’s permanent.

No. After nirvana, no more. If it is not permanent it is aint enlightenment. You have no idea what are you talking about.

“i” and “thought “ is a thought itself. When there is no “I” (including anything you learned and know), you directly become what You really are. As always been. Not even moved and began.

@bibek678 live in darkness and silence at least 3 years. Just go out when it is necessary. Dont do anything. Thats the shortcut. Otherwise it will take decades.

Thats not enlightenment. After enlightenment realization occurs that dream has never happened. You are where you are and what you are as always been. Dream or everything is just a thought.

@neovox like you too??

As @allislove says give it time, relax, love and let go. Letting go of the memories, future and loving the moment whatever it comes the key. Good luck!

What about when you realize that you never did, and now is before birth, you are already what you are, not even moved? Dont make a big deal. As much as you make big deal it gets bigger, whatever you think thats what your reality (ego) is, and if you dont think thats what You are is.

@PureRogueQ directly become conscious of what you are. Dont waste your time, if you are dedicated about enlightenment. Let go and love. Peace!

Not ignorance, letting go. You think that both perspectives are true. No it is not. From that perspective there is no reason for you to become conscious of what you are, just have a regular human life. Otherwise enlightenment process stays as hobby and ego loves that. Entertainment.

Consciousness is way deeper than so called body-mind relation. Otherwise these talks just stay as an religion, belief or ideology. Directly become conscious of what you are is must. Good luck to you brother. Peace!

It takes to let go. Try to do is hard but not doing is easy. It is not. You think it is, thats why is. Thinking, evaluating or understanding never dissolve the ego, only love everything as you and let go does it. From this perspective, ego can take control of you easily, because you made it as something real or powerful, instead of thought process. Just love everything as it in any situation. Easier.

Who told you that you are human? Is it them directly being conscious of it or something that they have learned? If you never learned that you are born, can you be born? Whatever makes you happy. However, ego is like a roller coaster. Specially at bad times, becomes so vulnerable. Operating from ego is suffering. But whatever makes you happy.

There is no going or coming back. You are already where you are and what you are as always been. There is no eyes. Rest is a thought process. Such as As you can see, you are Still naming and labeling.

Experiencing ego death is not enough for enlightenment. You must go deeper till to there is no “you” to think, understand, experience and evaluate, till just be. The reason why you become larger, after ego death you realize that eyes dont see anything or there is no eyes, you are this, the moment. However, thought process doesnt stop and you keep name and label what you are. However, what you are can not be name and label, understand, seen nor point out to, can just “BE”.