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I would suggest meditation observing your thoughts. This gives you a very good practice and awareness that you are not your thoughts and it helps you to ignore them fast. Just sit and observe your thoughts without interfering on them. With time you will notice that when you have negative thoughts you will think inmediately "that's just a thought" and it will disappear very easily. At least it happened to me, I couldn't believe how easily thoughts can be ignored and how much power we give to them. http://www.swamij.com/witnessing.htm

Cool, it's an exciting topic.

Yes, no problem Socrates. This is my opinion based on my experience. I am not saying that I am right, and I am still studying about it, but everything I found out it confirms me the same thing. In my opinion is not true that Jesus said that he had to die for our sins and if we believed in that, we will be saved. If you read the bible you will see he didn’t say that, his apostles said it. He said that god and him were one. That’s what Buddhist say, and other true religions say like Christians mystics, (not mainstream Christians), Kabbalah, Zufi, Zen etc… When Buddhist say you have to kill your ego, Jesus says “deny yourself”. Everything that is written in the Bible has a more deep meaning than the one that we can see with our materialistic ego mind. For example, the Bible says that we can’t do an image of God. The Protestants say that you can’t do an statue of anything in heaven, the Catholics don’t interpret it like that and they do statues of Jesus, etc. But the point is that most of the mainstream churches see it in the physical way, they think about not doing an statue, but I was listening to Alan Watts and he said something that it makes a lot of sense. We should not do an image of god in our mind. That was mind blown for me. And I think is true. You can read the Christian gospels on so many levels, they are so deep and full of wisdom, but it can reflect too the worst of you if you are full of ego, like the mainstream churches that they are only interested in creating an empire and not to explain the real truth about God. There are a lot of more examples like that, I will write about them soon in my journal, in the journal sector of the forum. Let me know if you want to find out more, I am really an admirer of Jesus teachings, and I think the apostles didn’t understand most of the things he taught to them. Note: I don't know about this Church but I found this googleing and I think it is interesting. I have some videos too about this. But maybe we should open another thread to not hijack this one. :-) http://thechurchoftruth.org/jesus-did-not-die-for-your-sins/

@Natasha Sounds obvious but it's true. We really don't know

@Natasha You are a guru... hehehe...

@Henri @Philip I was thinking that Jesus advice was pretty inefficient, at least for most of the people who listened to his message and misunderstood it completely. (I was one of them )

@Henri I know.

Earn 1 million dollars in one week and tell them you made it because you were enlightened, that will do. :-P

I think is just consciousness talking to itself, when you talk with anyone, that's why I say whatever it comes to my mind. I don't see if the person is prepared or not, sometimes I feel not to do it and sometimes yes. The other thing is that I agree that it doesn't matter if we don't understand at the moment, because we always tend to remember that kind of things, I remember as a teen I read a Zen book and for me was crazy. And now I am like... "ah... that's what the book was referring to". You see? Now things that I didn't understand long time ago are beginning to make sense and they are like a support that I feel is helping me on going further on the seek of enlightenment. And I tend to go a lot to Christian stuff and the Bible, and I really believe what the Bible says, that everything that we say has a purpose. It doesn't matter what we do or say, everything is under control by the universe, cosmos, consciousness, god, etc. Isaiah 55:11 "so is my word that goes out from my mouth: It will not return to me empty, but will accomplish what I desire and achieve the purpose for which I sent it."

@Henri I think you hit the nail right on the head

@Philip I am going to write it on my journal... I am still in the boring part hehehehe And probably it was me who was shocked because I am a bit dumb Lol I let you know when I write about it... This is the link to my journal, right now it makes no sense yet hehehe... and it's a bit crazy but here it is. I let you know when I post the "shocking" part.

I'm learning @Socrates you are right. I was listening to mooji and I was thinking about that too. He doesn't say some things, sometimes because he is afraid of giving some advice that will be then a concept to the student. And so, more difficult to grasp. I really don't thing I am at a high level, my ego probably thinks so hehehe... I have other thing to add, I am not saying that I am on a high or low level but sometimes people feel like I give advice very advanced. I am really a bit new to all this, but I was searching since I was a kid. But without really understanding anything about Buddhism or other philosophies. Now I came back and I feel that everything makes sense, but I really feel like a know nothing. I am really saying it, not because I read it or anything, It's how I feel honestly.

My opinion has changed a bit now because of @Philip , I think we learn all the time from others and I think he's right sometimes is too much information for people who is beginning. The thing is that I discovered those things in a traumatic way and shocking way too hehehe... so, I am like sometimes I go to try to shock others the same way I was shocked. This thread is going to be awesome.

I think is a good idea, I am learning all the time. And I think you have a good point on that. I am sometimes a bit impulsive.

hahaha... no problem, I was thinking too in posting something about it. Interesting, we both had the same idea. We are one hahaha... Later!

Don't get pissed off and enlighten us with some jibber jabber. I honestly think it would be good. There's not really a right place to comment, just do it. I was reading a Jed Mc Kenna post this weekend, and I agree with him. We should be having fun from life, it's all good!!! I really liked what you said about reality, it's so true.

I had when I was getting awake experiences of nothingness (I didn't have any identity, I didn't know who I was) and oneness, very short. But it got me thinking about what @Leo Gura said about going back to the source. I also heard Eckhart Tolle saying the same thing.

Maybe I didn't use the correct words, it was my ego talking lol... I did that before, I just hide them... and that's worst. It will come back worst. I had to learn to let them be, just recognize what they are and that they can't affect me. I could reach that point with meditation, that was the only way I trained my brain to let them go. Mindful meditation and just meditation observing my thoughts. They become powerless. Not like I was doing before, in the past when I tried to hide them, or repress or deny them it was worst, they came back stronger. Meditation is the solution, at least it worked for me.

I remember now, I also said it because I have some similar disagreement with my wife. And I thought that was the problem, we invest too much in ourselves. So I didn't pay attention to what she said, because it was her ego (not really her) talking, and I wanted to say something, but it was going to be my ego too. So I keep quiet. It would have been a clash of egos. And I don't want that in my life anymore.

Anyway, in my opinion it was good. It would have been bad if it didn't get any reaction. We know more about ourselves now, so... I learned too from that. Maybe I am too much obsessed with enlightenment.

Well, when I feel that impulse I normally think is the "higher self"... but I don't know for sure. Maybe is my ego hehehehe... you never know until you are enlightened... I think. And I am not yet there...

I just got an impulse to do it without thinking too much about it, when that happens I know it's a good thing, so I just do it.

Don't be sorry, it's Ok. I don't share your opinion, but it is Ok.