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Drop everything!!!!

No way back!

Ok, that's a great argument, thanks!

There are things that can't be answered, I can tell you my idea of what you are asking, but it will be just another idea. Buddha gave some good advice about that and it was that there are some questions that should be put aside. Thinking about it won't solve it, because the mind can't grasp the concept of what's going on in reality. It will always conceptualize, "this is bad" "this is good"... but really. Who knows? Maybe what's bad in this "real three dimensional world" is very bad for the "afterlife". Just trying to You need to drop the idea that you are going to understand. I will suggest you to try to un-know everything.

@99th_monkey Did you try listening to your inner voice?

And where are the good things?

Ok, you win hehehehe

Pretty cool @Shantanu I like your journal. Good work!

Lol

@Mal Which one are your favs? Maybe I should post a thread separately...

Like Mooji says "I dunno" hehehehe

Cavalier perspective or One-point perspective?

If it is me, it must be a pretty monster, cause I am pretty

It is Will, aren't we you always arguing with our thoughts? Who is the one who says "that's me"? It is just a thought. Right? And then... Who says? "no... this is not me, I am something more permanent" Another thought, so we are just entertaining different thoughts... We are all crazy hehehehe... the only difference is we keep certain logic. When you think and think without stop you can go crazy, for real. That's how our mind works. So better not think so much, just feel comfortable with what you are. It's Ok if we just observe the thoughts, but then at some point we will need guidance, we have to learn how to differentiate which are just thoughts and which ones are our true self. And we will be our own masters. Otherwise we will just keep repeating what we have listen around there, we will just change our programming and that's all. The voice will be low in the beginning, but then it will become more clear. About free will, watch this. Very useful. And about listening your inner voice: And one last thing, don't believe me or any of those videos, just try to experience and understand by yourself, the idea is not create anymore beliefs and see reality "as is". :-)

That's really awesome Atom! I wish you well too!!!

That's a great definition @Emerald Wilkins

That's great! I wanna be "that" too

His explanations about free will are very interesting and pretty easy to understand.

@Atom did you watch Sam Harris videos about free will?

I got you, thanks again!!!

@charlie2dogs thanks Charlie! How will you define the difference between the two? Programming and beliefs?

Even from a scientific perspective, and applying logical thinking, free will doesn't exist.

@charlie2dogs I ended in a mental hospital to understand that there's no free will and that our ego-identity is false / fake. It doesn't exist. I am beginning to understand that the key is no beliefs at all. I understand it conceptually, but I still need time to process it.

That's what I was thinking. Thanks for clarifying Charlie. @Atom I know we have no free will. And the free will we will have if we are enlightened (as I hope we all will be) it's not the kind of free will we think functioning as an ego-identity, or human being.

But after enlightenment we can say we do have free will. We have no free will while we identify with the ego identity, right?