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Lol... true.

You are right is certain way @No-Thing In the sense that there's no enlightenment and nothing to seek. The problem is that the ego doesn't know how to find something without seeking, it doesn't know how to not seek something and that's the difficult part. I hear a lot of stuff from UG Krishnamurti and IMO he is enlightened even when he says he is not. And probably he says he's not because of what I wrote above. There's no enlightenment, no path, nothing... just be. But is hard to do that...

@Sevi Thanks!

I need to lay in my bed too... Lol

Thanks @nightrider1435 and @Leo Gura Very valuable to take into consideration.

Thanks @Leo Gura I asked you because I had an experience where I didn't know who "I" was. The "I" I am referring is my ego, my lower self, memories, etc... because now I realize I was there (during that experience), only without memories, just awareness. But at the moment it was pretty scary. I thought I was having a problem in my "brain" Lol... I was completely blind thinking there was a "me" at this time. I always had an strong sense of me, my soul, my identity, etc... I think I needed a shock to begin to understand. It was before I found out about actualized and I didn't know anything about meditation. I think that was one of the things that helped me to begin to search and investigate. Thanks again!

@Leo Gura At any point on the meditation did you lose all idea of your identity? to the point of don't knowing anything? All memories gone, etc...???

With the do nothing meditation I try to notice the resistance of the mind to be quiet, and when something happen, I ask to myself why there's resistance? And I try to find a reason or notice and insight. Every meditation is different.

You need meditation to differentiate and discriminate thoughts from the source versus thoughts from the ego or lower self. Your mind is not yours, you are aware of your mind and thoughts, you are silent consciousness, the observer. Try some mindfulness meditation.

@Prabhaker Osho is really good.

@Soulbass @Toby But when we see others, we see them distorted by our biases. That can help too to know more about ourselves. In fact, we don't see others, we see ourselves reflected on others. Everything is a mirror. Right?

The idea that consciousness creates the illusion of a body, is not real very far away of what I am finding out. What do you thing @AstralProjection ?

Consciousness is never asleep. Do you believe every thought you perceive?

I'm lost and the thread is too long!!! When is the next skype meditation???

You are a poet @Natasha

Spiritual bypass is a defense mechanism. Although the defense looks a lot prettier than other defenses, it serves the same purpose. Spiritual bypass shields us from the truth, it disconnects us from our feelings, and helps us avoid the big picture. It is more about checking out than checking in—and the difference is so subtle that we usually don't even know we are doing it. https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/emotional-sobriety/201110/beware-spiritual-bypass

@dice That's what's called Spiritual Bypass. Ego use the knowledge to continue being the one who runs the show.

Jesus

Jed Mc Kenna told me that, I went to his forums and I talked (chatted) to him about 5MEO and he said that I don't wanna do the work, that I have to stop avoid doing the work and being lazy (or something like that)... Lol He also said that drugs can mess me up, I think he's not too much into psychedelics.

I think that persons of low consciousness do harm because of lack of contact with the true self, or reality. If they continue denying reality, there would be no true self in them (or their link with it will be very weak) to discriminate what is good or bad and they will become prisoners of chaotic thoughts, craziness, depression, psychosis , and all kind of mental disturbances. IMO.

@Afonso It's not that the teachers aren't clear is that we can't see truth even if it is in front of our noses. It takes time and repetition, repetition and repetition for us to begin to understand a bit what they are pointing at.

@Loreena Thanks! We love you too!

@Azrael Ok, I got it. I was thinking that because I am reading a book about Buddha, the Buddha gospel and he said that if you eat more healthy (no meat Buddha said) you will see changes in your mind, etc... And about what you said about seeing people as creatures, not human... it is beginning to happen to me. But I see them as lifeless. Like they are talking but it's not them who do the talking. And the eyes look like without life. But I don't know... Maybe is my ego or thoughts, I try not to pay attention to anything or not get attached to any idea or thought.

Ok, this is something that I can relate... When it happened I didn't have idea what was wrong. I thought I was crazy too and I ended in the hospital in the psychiatric ward. Once there I met a lot of people with big depression and problems that made me realize that the problem is what we believe we are. I had a lot of insights there, but it took me like years to understand them and I am still processing them. Thanks for that, I think this is what is beginning to happen (the awakening of the body), because I was always trying to eat more healthy, but for lack of will or lazyness I never did it correctly. And now is happening effortless, I am eating more vegetables and healthy stuff and I don't crave for any garbage food. I think that's what's needed to awaken the body, and I realize that because you said so... I was beginning to do it unconsciously, just because it is healthy, but now that you mention this I think it makes sense.

This is a very popular comic strip from the Rio de la Plata in South America, mostly Argentina and Uruguay (where I came from). I think is something that everyone of us has experienced at some point, I translated from spanish to english, I hope it makes sense because I am not a very good translator. :-P