abrakamowse

I had a reason to quote Jesus, it wasn't just because I wanted to do it. It is on topic. Sorry if you don't get it.

Ok, that was a discussion I had with some people who is from vedanta. They say that you are aware of nothing. Because there's nothing that's what you "remember" when you wake up... no thing. But... I don't still have a position on that and I don't know how to know it, because I think I am a person.

@Outer I think everything is on topic. We were talking about Jesus because he said things that have to do with this topic. I watched the first episode and you can read my post here:

I am BEING MANIPULATED by fork-tongued Devils

A Jesus Fresco is coming!!!!

In deep sleep awareness is aware of nothing... not-a-thing. Awareness is there without any object, just aware of itself. IMO.

Jesus is my "partner"

That's Jesus opinion about this: For John came neither eating nor drinking, and they say, 'He has a demon.' The Son of Man came eating and drinking, and they say, 'Here is a glutton and a drunkard, a friend of tax collectors and sinners.' But wisdom is proved right by her deeds."

Watching it right now. :-) I watched the first episode. And I was going to say that is good to see it with an open mind. At least the first episode shows that Osho's idea was really good. There's testimony of people who were with him, they are the main "actors" in this doc. They went to talk with Sheela that was her most immediate secretary, helper, advisor, etc. She is telling us her version of the events. I don't see something biased against Osho in the documentary, at least in the first episode. What I am trying to say is that everyone will have his own interpretation. I am seeing it and I don't see nothing wrong about the Ashram Osho's did. I wouldn't go to a place like that, but because I don't think is my path to be there in a commune. But for others can be good. IDK. There's parts where they show Osho handcuffed. You have to options... one is to think "Did you see? I was right! Osho was an impostor!" Or you can think... "Ok, maybe he was a threat to society and someone made a trap to send him to jail" You don't have to assume without even watching it that is something bad against him. It is not. And I wanted to add that I think Osho's teachings are really good and mindbending. But I also want to know all aspects of his life. Because is really an awesome life that he had. I didn't have idea he was such a powerful leader.

Ok, that makes a bit more sense to me... anyway is a topic I would like to understand more deeply. :-)

Lmao!

I don't agree with the idea of Evil Enlightened people, but I may be wrong.

Exactly what I was pointing to, thanks @SFRL

That proves nothing. Anyway, I am not condemning him or saying he's good or bad for having a Rolls Royce, I just say... DON'T FOLLOW ANYONE.

I don't know if the media misled. I don't know if he's greedy or not. I find his teachings good, I often listen to them and I go to his website. But... I don't believe anything the media says or even what he says. He can say that he did it to make fun of materialism, if that's true, great for him. The only thing I say is don't believe in anyone, don't follow anyone. You can see the video with an open mind and see what others have to say about him and draw your own conclusions. You never know.

So, are you saying that the media "created" or "fabricated" that video where you can see him entering the ashram in a Rolls Royce?

One more documentary about him here: http://watch.opb.org/video/2306839650/

Okey, here you have it!

I have a more deep connection with the new Leo, but IMO there's no big difference btw the "new" and the "old".

I think if it wasn't for "suffering" we would never look for "God/Reality/That... "

That's the essence of the Matrix (reality)