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Exactly! I shared because some of the things he said resonated with me, but I am one who benefited a lot of meditation to be more calm and think better. And much more. I agree a lot with what you say about peace and bliss from the personal POV and from the awareness POV.

Meditation isn't as sold --- Posted by u/Mister_Bitmouse on reddit (Original post here: https://www.reddit.com/r/Meditation/comments/ba8qb1/meditation_isnt_as_sold/ ) So I am not sure how to write this and not come across like a dick. I have fallen into many if not most of the pitfalls on the spiritual/meditation path. I am not perfect and I don't claim to know everything. I am feeling a bit concerned having read a lot of the recent posts on this sub now that it has made it's way into my google now news feed. Basically my concern is there is a lot of using meditation to bolster a, "successful life," to, "improve oneself," or to, "feel better." While I think this is the aim of meditation, in a way. I think people have a very false expectation of what meditation will deliver. Meditation is not a tool for peace, it will not make you feel better, and it is more likely to make you less, "successful." Why? Sitting in stillness while focusing on the breath will dredge up you unconscious. Therein lies 3.5 billion years, at least, of unprocessed baggage. Meditation is like a meat grinder with your personal version of Las Vegas sitting at the front, go in and get ground. So why meditate? Chogyam Trungpa used to say unless you were interested in enlightenment in this life time at the cost of everything you know, then run the other way like hell. A lot of the threads I have read recently are written by people who have about 1-2 years of meditation experience. That is no small thing. However, I am here to tell you that it isn't what you think. It isn't bad, but embracing all of reality means just that. Usually all the fun stuff is upfront. I have been meditating for 25 years. I know myself to be Self. I have no doubt about it. I am not the man writing this, I am not a nationality, a race, a gender, I am that which is. I stopped meditating as much as soon as practice was moment to moment. Every moment then became mindfulness. Now everytime I walk down the street all the trees look crisp and clear like I was on acid/mushrooms. However, I don't sit daily. It keeps increasing though. My practice now is introspection and I get to see all the ugliness my family never dealt with. Spiritually it is great. In life it is fucking hard. My meditation teacher was a man who left to meditate; found himself in Thailand in a monastery and found that every person there was hiding from something, career, relationship, children. One by one they all left to face those things. Meditation will make you. I just need you guys to know this stuff. This isn't sexy and it doesn't sell, "yoga butts," however it is true. Meditation isn't a toy, it isn't a successory. It's not going to make you CEO, it might, but being CEO won't mean shit to you.

I just found a post from a user confirming what I have discovered. Things begin to appear, ideas that I had never contemplated are coming to me. Anyway, I know everything is just a story.

We hallucinate the whole reality. What we think is "real" is hallucination.

Some insights that arose when meditating and being silent, mostly in my mind. I realized that awareness (God/Reality) is the doer. The jiva or atman doesn't do anything, he thinks he is the doer. But everything he does is a reflection from the source or Brahman or Iswara. So in reality is Iswara who does everything. I wasn't sure about this insight so I googled it to see other views on this point. Because I always heard that awareness does nothing. And I found this: "A being enlightened to a certain level knows that he or she is not the doer, that God is, Sri Ramakrishna tells us: “Do you know the attitude of one who has realized God? He feels: ‘I am the machine, and Thou, O Lord, art the Operator. I am the house and Thou art the Indweller. I am the chariot and Thou art the Driver. I move as Thou movest me; I speak as Thou makest me speak.'” (4) If God is everything, then we are God and God must be the doer. But what’s lacking is our realization of that fact." https://goldenageofgaia.com/2016/12/08/god-alone-doer/

Very accurate

Who is not crazy? You have gone crazy too... I am crazy... Everyone is crazy, the president is crazy, the therapists are crazy, scientists are crazy... the whole world is deluded. what's the problem?

@Highest Sufism is not very well known. I want to read more about it, really. Thanks for sharing!

I demand an explanation!

Nice

Hatred is lack of love.

That's similar to the teaching from Hermeticism that says: "That which is above is the same as that which is below" Or "As above, so below"

Spirituality can become a mental health problem if you don't understand well spirituality. I say this cause I know now. My psicosis and depression was there because I thought I was the thinker of thoughts. Once I knew I'm not my thoughts, Boom!!! No more depression, anxiety or psicosis can affect awareness.

Thanks for sharing that. So powerful. I'm in a level know that I doubt a lot about talking of spirituality, and most of the time I feel is better not sharing and continuing acting as a person. Lol... Thanks again!

In my case I wanna know who am I

I would stay focus on one thing. I think that if you let them roam around, that would be like doing something, right? IMO

I'm curious about Salvia

You can read his ideas about UBI here: https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/87aa2z/iama_andrew_yang_candidate_for_president_of_the/

You are not losing your mind, because your mind is not "yours". Meditation what it is supposed to do is to make you see that thoughts, mind, etc... are not you. That you are bigger than that. Observe an object. Think about it, you will notice thoughts that say "I like it, I don't like it, is blue, is boring, is yellow, it's nice... etc" All those are concepts created by the mind. Look at the object again, this time try to not pay attention to your thoughts. Observe the object as it is. Look at its texture, don't think is good or bad, or if you like it or not. Just observe it, touch it, feel if it is soft or rough... That which observes without judging (this is good or bad) is awareness... Did you notice that at some point?

The devil is just a name. In Christianity people realized that we were not seeing reality the way it is and they say that it was the devil, that God gave the world to the devil... that works, because we really create our personality from the world. The ego (what we are not) is created by our environment, the world. So, everything that comes from the world is a sin and devil. Buddhism called it Maya... etc... Basically what they call 'devil' is what doesn't allow us to see reality the way it is, so we don't really know what we really are. We believe that we are a body, who was born in a world, etc...

@BjarkeT It's Ok... no problem. I understand.

That way in my experience creates another self that is confident. What I wanted to do is not to create another belief systems that is a "confident person"... I think is more powerful to be aware of what you are. What you really are is much more confident than anything. And it doesn't need a "personality that is confident" or create a belief of confidence or thinking you are a "confident person". It's confident because that's what awareness is. It knows it IS. The website you posted says "Self-confidence is believing or being sure about ourselves in some way." In my opinion is not the same "believing that you are" self confident than BEING self confident. But that's my opinion and experience...