Aakash

@Serotoninluv i see so ultimately that means i am perfect whether i hold beliefs about certain things or i don't hold beliefs about certain things

@Serotoninluv yeah okay i don't want to enter the realm of choice, but i just want to talk about perfection, what i'm really talking about is this at its core, i couldn't get the words for it, but its this adding in imperfections to me the perfection is that there are no imperfections , so why does the notion of change "i.e, to add meaning of imperfection and desire to get to another place" be counted as perfection

@Serotoninluv I see so change is part of the time bound construction that is perfect as well, that ability to change our decisions, to go pee before we enter a sensory deprevation tank for example, so the decision to change and come back to a forum after saying goodbye. a mind can be aware of it or not, the implications are then as followed: that every decision made is perfect then would it not

@Mu_ I actually thought that you represented it quite good, it gave me a deeper understanding of neti-neti, thats exactly how it feels in order when you are performing it, the biggest problem is when you will reach a grounding of absolutely so, to say neti-neti too, for example, i've only managed to get to a feeling of "i", which i've now cancelled out and are back to ungrounded ground so as a seeker, how do i get to the next ground which like you said is based on my psychologically factors as a human, where i think ground is next

@Nahm @Serotoninluv so your both essentially saying the same thing , what ever is, is perfect . LOL that is quite funny, its fun to forget who we are, so we did lol the cosmic joke was i was complete all the time so really what i'm trying to get at is, you are perfect regardless of what is actually happening to you in actuality? your judgement, desires etc all things are also perfect too

i get where your coming from, why put yourself in that situation , but how can perfectness have degrees of perfect? this is over simplified in a way, the question would be why is it you want to lose weight when you are perfect itself, what need for the change and for things to be any other way

@mandyjw i see, finally where does changing of your deficiencies come into it, leo always talking about changing yourself to live your best possible life, but if its also whole then what the need to change it? change is apart of life, so how does change and you being perfect relate?

@mandyjw i don't follow, i'm not sure i can interpret it correctly as you mean it. if one who knows god still feels personally deficient , he is completely deficient meaning if i don't accept my ego as perfect, i will be completely difficient forever

@Serotoninluv Good you got my point, see my way of thinking is the cowbell can only ever be distracting when you think it is... nothing needs to be really changed and therefore that is self acceptance but the paradox is you can only really be self accepting when you give up the cowbell ring. but to be completely self accepting you have to transcend the idea of the cowbell being seperate to the band and therefore the cowbell and the band exsist together in perfect synchronicity likewise it is also possible to say the band can be much better without the cowbell noise which is also transcendental. so my question to you is, you know your perfect so are you perfect when the cowbell is ringing , or the cowbell is not ringing

@mandyjw lol i watched that , its so funny ... so your telling me you can accept your self as an ego is as perfect as yourself as an enlightened person and there's no difference

@SoonHei yeah i was so in the moment, i deluded myself into think it was over, actually its ironic it came at the best time, after i learnt my beliefs were only beliefs so it did happen perfectly. yeah i will leave it an open book! thanks!

@Serotoninluv @mandyjw thanks !! its so hard to accept that your perfect how do you guys do it !

Don't know if you already know about it, but rupert said its one of the two three books he says that pinnacle of non duality , he mentions it in the first 2 minutes of the video

the cosmic joke is the thing you are seeking is the seeker! LOOOOL! that is "i"

Thanks moderators and everyone i've had the pleasure talking too , leo.... when i found actualised.org i never realised how much my reality would change drastically, it had already been changed by a previous event and my way of thinking but after two years i finally , reached my two mini goals i had set for myself 1) i caught a glimpse of enlightenment to what ever degree it was lol 2) i found the first foothold in turquoise really these two years were so interesting and frustrating that i'm glad i can leave all this behind with a smile and laugh at how funny the world is and how amazing it is but you know i have one belief in my life which i have to follow through with that is: my parents gave me everything and allowed me to follow this path of enlightenment unwillingly, even though i never was able to focus properly on my normal life because i was way too interested in the true self, so they kinda let me do anything i wanted and i've let them down quite a lot in life because i'm always thinking about reality and how crazy amazing the world is, always distracted ahah so its my belief that for them i'm going to live a NORMAL life lol so they don't have to stress and worry that i will be able to survive and not think about this stuff. if it makes them happy then why not , not like they ever going to find enlightenment :') they actively probably hate it after i've been trying for 6 years to figure all of reality out aahaha Plus: i still have the belief that to define my success, if i make a million pounds, nobody ever going to question me about what i've done in my life i.e sitting around and thinking about reality ahah so far best two years of life life aahah but GOOD LUCK TO all of you trying to find enlightenment and with whatever GOD decides your life is going to be like ahah PS: JUST SAYING THE ONE THING I'M GLAD ABOUT IS GOING BACK TO BLACK AND WHITE THINKING, never going to engage actively in paradox's with neither answers being correct lol.

one last song hope you can all resonate with the song in whatever way you can, hope you all live your best life , PEACE

@purerogue this is an amazing video, i think everyone needs to watch this, thanks bro!

@Nahm loool to be fair this will be the first place ill be if it doesn't work out :') ill take your reply as its justified but you know i will do one thing and take that reiki class since i understand turquise a little now

@Nahm ahh man i stayed here so i could finish off the conversation, does my justification not work? in practical normal terms

THE FEELING OF I that feeling is present in each one of us it is shrouded by concepts of dualities these dualities become the way you see yourself and your identification to these concepts there after becomes your identity the ego concept as it may be likes to the confuse itself in these concepts and creating a boundary between itself and the universe concepts become stories, stories happen in time but the ego itself was itself the feeling of I the whole time therefore there is no distinction between ego and non ego this feeling of I THOUGHT it was awareness, the body, the mind, the brain, the hands, But this feeling of I is was itself not seperate from these things, but itself was these things dualities are what seperates the feeling of I , from the feeling of I with the thought of "this is i or i am" but this feeling of I is the god in all of us

@SriBhagwanYogi BRO LOOOOOOOOL THIS! THIS! THIS IS MY EXACT PROBLEM! THERES ALWAYS PERCEPTION OF THE THING THAT I AM CALLING I THEREFORE IT SEEMS LIKE I'M NEVER FINISHED NEVER NEVER EVER THERES ALWAYS MORE TO GO, I CAN'T WRAP MY HEAD AROUND IT THIS IS THE EXACT EXACT EXACT! PLACE WHERE I AM AT THERE IS ALWAYS AWARENESS OF AND THEREFORE I AM ALWAYS ASKING TO WHOM DOES THIS AWARENESS OCCUR AND THEN I FIND THAT ITS FURTHER ATTACHMENT BY THE EGO AND THEN I DETACH SLIGHTLY AND HAVE NO WHERE ELSE TO GO SO I TRY TO FIND A NEW I

@mandyjw @Aakash Can i just say while i spend my last day on here I'm still laughing at preetoms comment and intuition and its been two days "is your husband by any chance David "the enlightened master" Hammond" of all the enlightened people in the world and he guessed right uncanny

the lasting effect on me or the one thing i have learnt: NOT TO TAKE REALITY SO SERIOUSLY, SINCE ITS ONE BIG JOKE

I'm sure i finally got a glimpse of enlightenment and i understand without a doubt now that you can't help me become enlightened or that the very "nothingness" is beyond questions and words, you can only experience your true self so i wanted to say a really big thank you, every time i came back to talk to you i progressed even further down the path keep up the good work

@Serotoninluv after that glimpse you gave me yesterday, i just had to post this, i now see the value behind psychadelics and why 5-meo by leo to express the true self, that is an ingenious methodology Its by passing knowledgable detachment (KRIYA) , devotee detachment (DEVOTEE), its direct! detachment into true self how amazing is that