Aakash

OHHHH MMMYYYY GOOOOODDDD I FINALLY UNDERSTAND THE QUOTE LOOOOOOOL! ITS NOT LITERALLY ABOUT CUTTING WOOD AND COLLECTING WATER TO LIVE A QUIET LIFE its literally about living how you would normally do as if NONE of this even happened

everything in reality is reality itself there can not be anything separate from it including any thoughts of being an individual self its not that its Illusionary/ imaginary VS non illusionary/ imaginary it exists within reality but to transcend it, is to realise reality incorporates ego! reality incorporates anything and everything there possibly is and you are all of it you are the murderous villians and the mighty super hero avengers WHY? because the SELF is not biological, that is an idea it is simply everything

@zeroISinfinity I feel the love bro, thank you to myself ! i'm going to live the best life lol! just like normal man! nothing has changed

@Jkris FORM IS FORMLESS MEANING YOU ARE ENLIGHTENED THERE IS NO ENLIGHTENMENT EVENT ITS REALISING FORM IS FORMLESS AND FORMLESS IS FORM THEREFORE YOU REALISE YOU ARE EVERYTHING IT CAN'T BE ANY OTHER WAY dude i am you and you are me, thats crazy LOL

@purerogue LOL DUDE YOUR ME, AND I'M YOU! WE ARE THE SAME PERSON TALKING TO EACH OTHER :') WE ARE REALITY O M G

@purerogue But this is an impossibility in my new understanding? yeah it seems the motivation gets sucked right out of you, if you detach completely from duality but it kinda leaves you in pieces itself, not able to do one thing or the other because your always stuck in between the paradox

@David Hammond HOLD UP A SECOND I CAN SEE FORMLESSNESS, its everything! holy shit, i am the whole of reality of form yup i did think this, but this is a false assumption, i understand now OMG there is no going to absolutely nothing, its just going back to form/ formless non duality but i'm not understanding "nothing to do, nowhere to go" also don't understand the karma part but omg LOL i see formlessness LOL!

@David Hammond so your telling me theres no actual enlightenment experience :C LOL

@David Hammond wow that actually was an amazing line!! that makes so much sense ahah it all makes sense, so the individual self is limiting life and not limiting life because it self is doing life at the same time and therefore enlightenment exists and does not exist

@purerogue I see because they think that 0 means nothing and to have a 0 life but its actually the opposite really, to be honest i can't understand what else you would do with your life now besides live it to the fullest but really is there a problem, not spending it to the max

@thesmileyone well its open to interpretation by each individual. however, i would ask yourself this one simple question TO YOU would you be living life to the fullest if the answer is yes then i don't see any problem its not an issue not to be social. its just a preference really

@David Hammond I see i finally get it, the whole dance is zen because everything in reality is reality itself. It is, so there can't be anything outside of it. so if i want to create a million pounds by doing inception its zen LOL

@purerogue Yeah i get that, as it happens to many people on this forum but after what david said i kinda have no issues living my life to the fullest because if that is enlightenment lets say then how could you not try live your life to the fullest?

@David Hammond okay so its okay to then make the best possible life for oneself then because thats god itself doing that im guessing you mean not going to back to the finite "i"

@David Hammond but that literally means theres nothing to do in the universe at all, no improvements , no downgrades , nothing

how so

Done some more research, it is the difference between problem solving and problem finding and creating a problem i would say that finding a problem is being able to identify a problem that existed but you weren't conscious of but what i'm trying to understand here, is how to create a problem out of thin air. @Leo Gura is there any insight you can provide me about the duality between "problem vs solution"

So let me give some context to this question i propose i started questioning the existence of reality to find a business venture to make a million pounds; it was a green spiral dynamic venture to simply make money off finding a product or service that will solve a major world problem like poverty, renewable energy etc.. since joining the spiritual community i understand that materialism can not solve the world problems and therefore i would like to ask do business products solve problems or create problems lets take innovation for example or entrepreneurship. Its creating a new market demand for an idea or concept that does not already exist, we can look at this in another way, as creating a problem that wasn't there to begin with and finding then creating the solution to it itself which materialist will now be addicted to, indirectly leading to more world problems ., which is different to looking at a world problem that already exist in the world and creating a product to solve the solution but really did the product create the problem or solve the problem, because in TRUTH, the problem is a metaphysical understanding of reality that solves each persons desire and selfishness. EXAMPLE cellular phones did not solve a problem because, it created a problem that telecommunications weren't cordless and portable. There was actually no NEED for cellular phones, landlines were perfect exactly as are. Opiod addiction was never a problem to begin with, but the venture to use them for medical properties created this problem I've noticed , its easier to get rich of creating a problem and providing the solution , then it is to find a solution to a product that already exist A) not everyone has the problem B) even when people think its a problem they may have, some people may not be responsive But lets say i had a vaccination that gave everyone in the country HIV and i had the solution to it- Id make way more money. Its like your monopolising the idea of "HIV" since its obviously just a concept just like the stock exchange market is a concept, and money is an agreed concept of value. INCEPTION I'M telling you, you are ugly! ugly as ugly can be here's a dress that will make you feel beautiful for the first time

https://www.amanet.org/articles/want-to-innovate-create-a-problem/ an extract from this website "Good managers solve problems, but great leaders create problems and then empower others in their organization to solve them. Creating problems leads directly to innovation. Of course, deliberately creating problems is counterintuitive; we’re wired to avoid problems. Culturally we’re trained to get rid of problems. " AS GOD WERE TALKING ABOUT CREATING A PROBLEM THAT EXISTS ITSELF AS AN IDEA. USING INFINITE INTELLIGENCE TO CREATE REALITY AND SHAPE THE CONCEPTUAL CONSTRUCTION. not finding a problem and creating a problem statement about the issue

the feeling is always caused by a belief, you are not trying to hold onto the feeling but you are trying to let go of the belief, its like you are pulling a trolley with string to stop thinking the way you do, you keep trying to pull the trolley in all sorts of directions to get that exact angle to break the trolley itself but haven't realised that cutting the string itself is the most efficent way. so you have found that you feel broken and worthless but have you gone deeper and understood what your opinions of yourself make you feel this way .Thereafter to heal you have to learn to accept yourself completely in your present moment, wishing you could have muscles or a million pounds is only half truths of healing, or they are ways to break the trolley, not break the string. To break the string, you have to accept your self as perfect by letting go of the belief that you are worthless as it is not true. you are worth is actually the wrong question, the right question you should ask yourself to break the string is what does it actually mean to be worthless and contemplate what it actually means, find that boundary or line where a person goes from being worth something to being worth nothing and realise this is a boundary we all distinguish in our own heads, what makes you feel worthless is not what makes someone else feel worthless and therefore

@Serotoninluv great this brings me to another point absolute perfection can only exist in the now whether its imperfect perfection (change) or perfection itself (unchange), this perfection always needs to be accepted in the now, which i've learnt is basically accepting reality always in the now, for what it is and never wanting it to be anything other than what it is but this is where i got confused between change and unchange in relationship but its a 2nd order phenomenon because its splits into duality , that there wasn't really such thing as change in the first place because change requires a notion of time the absolute is that the perfection is the present moment accepted and loved always but i couldn't understand how change related to first order phenomenon or the now. this is what i call self acceptance and loving yourself its loving the present moment and everything including yourself and holding it as perfect and nothing else or home, which as you've said home doesn't exist in the time line

@Serotoninluv thanks now i get it, this what i was trying to get at, that the imperfect-perfect is the result of a need for change to result in another imperfect- perfection which the body-mind holds as absolute. but this change is also perfect and therefore its fine for me to want change but also accept things as perfect, the ultimate absolute is nothing/ infinity as you said but i am unable to get at this yet and therefore my second best option is to take everything as perfect and imperfect-perfection therefore absolute perfection since the duality between imperfect/perfect collpases

@Serotoninluv right i'm trying to get rid of the relative and only find the absolute, simulatenously i'm accepting the relative as truthful but not entirely truthful, as per the word relative but the absolute truth must incorporate the relative itself and therefore i am finding "ONEtwo" not "ONE PLUS TWO"

@Mu_ i felt like i was open and looking into a mirror that was accepting me for the length of the video, i would think, my back got tired, it accepted those things because it was to accept all , it left me with peace overall but the message i got from it was you are unconditional love itself loving one and everything

first of all this is quite funny, thank you for saying i haven't developed a proper nervous system, much love secondly, its not about feeling that you are the floor, or the chair its about understanding that the fundamentals of what the chair and floor are made out of is what you are made out of what you need to understand is are you the neurones firing electrical impulses to all cells in the body, does the you who thinks its the body also the dna in the eyeballs that are able to see ? do these things also count as you ?