Aakash

@Leo Gura i see, then i guess my magnitude of awakenings isn't as powerful as i thought, were talking about even deeper experiential experiences with the techniques. which now makes sense, why you said i've seen deeper than monks that have meditated for 20 years. thanks

@Anderz GG nevermind bro, but as a pointer, fear itself is apart of reality, it exist for a function. it will always exist for a newborn.

@Leo Gura i see , i'm not really in dispute that the difficulty of this challenge has already wavered my curiosity which largely comes from the expectation i had that as soon as i became enlightened all the information would be downloaded into my head and in a single instance everything would make sense. however, i've seen now that this isn't the case. i figured that even you had to read arcane type scriptures to understand this and piece it together. which is why everything you say from my interpretation sounds post-logically sound especially with my awakening experiences so far. but the bit i don't get is: reading the books and cross referencing a story lets call it for now (before verifying it) how did you go about experiencing it in your direct experience for you to verify it as true. i agree that you can create a situation in which you can claim it can be no other way and that would actually be the first step this automatically means its true given all circumstances but is this alone, enough to truth it? my understanding of it, is that you looked at reality itself and found live examples, for you to truth it... and the missing bits were filled in by awakening experiences like infinite love and infinite intelligence. but again, is this alone enough to truth it?

@Anderz even the way you speak now as if its a positive thing, it shows a clear lack of understanding from the societal reality we find ourselves in, none of what we speak about is justifyable to the average person. the very fact we think like this is crazy and not okay by any societal standards the wider community doesn't think about the cosmic perspective

@Shin well no arguments here! your right! but you seriously need mental masturbation to understand duality i think otherwise you just skip through straight to non duality

@Anderz i'm telling you, your a conspiracy theorist thats fine! and perfectly sane the people on here are INSANE AND CRAZY SHIN! watch out for that guy man! HE'S BAT-SHIT CRAZY MOST people on this forum are crazy! i'm trying to make them aware of it! (ps i'm just joking but i'm also being serious that the stuff we talk about here is not even crazy to normal people, its insane so conspiracy people are actually sane here)

lol tell the truth, 2nd understand when your fearful and don't give in to your fears , do the opposite without whilst being genuine talk about the truth to people because its the only truth you know but simply put you have to understand that you create your own reality and only then will you be forced to be honest with your self and youll get to things like terrorist are only bad because I think they are bad etc ..

@Shin you put such a stigma around mental masturbation, unfortunately its the only way to understand the complete depths of reality that logic can provide. otherwise you just by pass through all of it and go straight through to enlightenment lol, as fine as that may seem! you've been doing this for so long that you don't even understand your a crazy person whos a lunatic ahha

@Anderz LOOOL turned into a conspiracy theorist in a second, love it mainstream science has not been able to unify the laws of physics because they have not found concluding evidence to do such thing, if they did they would, unfortunately the laws of physics do not apply to reality and therefore can't and as such can only be deemed random and material. as a result the best attempt can only be a theory. saying its a hoax is exactly that, its a theory. its fine you understand that, but on a material level! the theory still works otherwise thousands of people won't buy into it ultimately the reason is because even if the truth was discovered the mainstream population wouldn't believe it and hence we are such a small group do you know anderz that you are actually crazy right now?

lol this is going to be my theme now, calling people crazy whenever i have the chance welcome to the understanding that you are a crazy person and for your own wellbeing, you must understand that you are crazy to 99% of the world lol

you know when you become enlightened the concept will drop and you will probably be no time, a suspended eternal now. in this now, god has already played out all possible things (not that you think about it) . if you had all the power you wouldn't let things happen randomly, you would only make it seem like it for the purpose of differentiation. a grand magic trick

lol nevermind i was giving you a way to look at time with your mind, ofcourse you can just say time is in reality at the end of the day

nevermind, i bet your just going to say the same thing lol just practice, my minds fragmented and therefore i can't articulate what i mean about enlightenment being a seperate issue to the rest of reality. it seems noself couldn't understand so i doubt i've done a good job of saying what i mean.

but your thinking of the past and the future linearly the past happens then the future happens after really the past never happened and the future never happened so if your going to say the past happens in the now, by default you have to say the future happens in the now also in this logic the future has already happened however, ultimately this is not the truth because there was no such thing as the future

@Anderz the future already exsist and has happened lol, but its normally taken out of context

@NoSelfSelf interconnecting the nuance of reality, not simply saying everything is god lol, like understanding reality is understanding the connectedness

@Anderz but its not a continuous now, its a single snapchat frozen in time you could say where now, past ,future, all timelines, alternative timeless, ghosts, paranormal phenomena, siddihis, love all exsist , without any direction of up, down, left ,right , centre , edge

@ajasatya i'm not advocating it, i'm just saying in metaphoric terms. but even that itself will be part of the grand design yes

@NoSelfSelf but i don't think this is about practicing, this is about contemplating- contemplating is not a practice in some sense, i'm not asking how to believe the fact i am god, thats nothing to do with interconnecting things

lol you maybe right, but not thinking about it has helped tremendously. to be honest, if i never i would have never realised how crazy we are as a group. yup we are bat-shit crazy lol

its fundamentally true, because were all interconnected one , what ever thought you hold affects my life and vice versa. what i'm saying is- its not purposeful for the individual but its purposeful for the whole of reality, for example the teenager that was killed lead to the discovery of a new power source because there was a local news article about the stabbing that happened in 1940, in 2000 the picture was looked at and there was a glowing tile on the floor that could only be captured by camera. That glowing tile was unmasked and discovered to be a multimillion pound business which is now killing thousands of people in africa, and the african government is now acting on it. not purposeful for the individual, but to the collective whole

@ajasatya exactly, i've had this story since i was 13 its one i've made up and still holds strong today if i murderer stabs a teenager to death, his friends and parents will know the pain of death, that parent holds the pain but must let go of it by help from grace, the friend looks for revenge and kills the murderer. The friend now becomes the murderer with an excuse but the parents of the new murderer finds out. the new murderer gets sent to prision and the parents hold pain again. this murderer has kids and now must grow up with the grandparents who teach him good, but the murderer teaches him bad when he comes out of prison the chain goes on and on on a grand scale, but it was all for the purpose of teaching pain and for people to learn. one karmic actions affects everything from anywhere between 200 - 20000 years into the future

@Key Elements but pictures are open to interpretations, unlike abstract texts.

@Leo Gura i want to know your opinion of my post with anderz, how does one varify your new realisations if enlightenment of the self does not varify it for you? do you have to contemplate the holistic nature of god and therefore arrive at those awakenings? and are these teachings mainstream or not ?

leo can't be a prophet lol! theres no such person as leo with his unique perception looool its literally god telling himself what hes discovered about himself kinda like leos story about the elephants and each of them touching a different part and describing different features of the same thing.