Aakash

its actually more simple than you think supposed i'm having a bbq at the river. its my first time experiencing a river, I can only know what its like to be in the river experiencing it when i get in. Similarly, contemplation is not about contemplation outside of the river, you have to contemplate on things inside the river. The river contains your beliefs, identities, past, futures etc .. In other words, its the river of metaknowledge you have picked up from symbols. contemplating this is doing mediative practice because your self analysing your fundamental building blocks. Its just another method to bypass the mind Also remember: the brain contains consciousness, so the only place to find out where your consciousness is, is to start with the mind, body lets all make it our OBJECTIVE to get enlightened!

@tsuki yes this is probably the best way to describe it in words, while seeking truth is a completely different ball game. Even those of yourself who are "enlightened". You are like me, lost in the fog. Except i am aware that if you were to discover absolute truth, you would run away like a cat being chased by a dog. Which is why i was interested in what the moderators had chosen. I think the same goes for you enlightened people as it did for me, you talk a big game, but won't walk the talk. This statement is exactly true because you continue to talk about enlightenment as if its the truth. this is only my humble opinion anyway. I have not had an enlightenment experience as i will state again and i will not for a long time. Edit: It is what it is anyway. What do i know.. you lot are all chatting woo woo to me anyway, stop with your outrageous remarks, consciousness comes from the brain!!!!! prove to me it doesn't!!! Edit 2: reading this whole specific post in the thread again, made me feel like a chicken lol. for a second i thought i was a chicken and i got scared ahahaah Edit 3: like if you knew jesus was god and he told you to cut him so he can turn his blood into wine for you to drink and even told you it was the single purpose of life. You would actually be like "DUDE, WTF you smoking in heaven" Edit 4: wooooahh its scary to be a chicken

Just to note for everyone to put it into context of the decision i made for myself, I am certainly foolish enough to admit i do not have this kind of love for god, to become the buddah is NUTS even for me... Hence i will always be condemned to a life without infinite intelligence, creativity.. most of it. But i have traction in some infinities, as well as access to a slight portion of it. But we are talking about infinite levels here! LOL ... and i certainly DO NOT have infinite LOVE. yes i am infinite love, but i am not able to BE infinite love! infinite love is total enlightenment. LEO IS NUTS, and he's consciously doing it which makes him even more NUTS. he is able to love god more than anyone as is the wager you must give to reach total enlightenment. You must wager your love of the truth and knowledge of the truth, for your love of god and self-actualise it. If your love slacks, then you will be lost in the fog of infinity like me. Ralston is nuts aswell , he's so nuts the way he teaches is to talk about direct communication of the truth. atleast, sadhguru plays about abit... ralston is to the point. and why do i know i'm foolish. Because i was aware of my mind rejecting the statement HeheEHEHehehe absolute truth LOL nuts!

@RendHeaven Hes not trolling, he's asking a serious question on where the boundaries lie between the definition of a physical entity and an image of god, which is what he sees in his direct experience. The political nature is conscious politics, not political ideological warfare. I personally haven't read the terms and agreements of using the forum, however, under leo's own guidelines, he would not be allowed to talk about politics himself if you were correct. all i see these days is people telling the mods who to ban and for what : / why don't you all just leave that to them to decide.

@Conrad Yes, because the baby is a full human being. They have a point, i would agree with them as long as the pregnant woman has enough time to decide if she wants the baby or not. Having children has huge implications for one's life, the ultimate decision should go down to the individual,

This is a brilliant remark, this is exactly what i'm going to do from now on. Feed some tigers for the greater good, and this will free me of my bad habits. Thanks!

The baby is an embryo and the definition of a baby is when the zygote forms for me. This is for those who are unaware, when the sperm cell and the egg fuse together. This is my opinion of when a baby is born, however, the traces are unknown to the woman and therefore legally the abortion can only be carried out between 2 months and 6 months of pregnancy. This is a fair and accurate rule, anything above 6 months is murder. The reason this law should exist is actually teenage pregnancy, they should be able to terminate the baby when they speculate it would be difficult for them to raise. it is a choice based on morality and that morality is how big is the fetus. Realistically, i should pull some statistics up to back my point.. i will do this next time.

@whoareyou Just like the man plays many faces, so must you ... the mods and leo have a forum to run... i do not have this responsibility nor direct life experience in certain stages to become a mod, I HUNTED truth. However, it may seem... emotional intelligence is linked to enlightenment. Actually playing the position of the jester is the HARD WORK and what many hours of your practising goes into forming emotional mastery. The truth just shows what you know to be not true and untenable, but the funny thing is, a jester who never made the king laugh always got his head chopped off. The question is as followed: IS CONCEPTUAL REAL? and the answer is YES and no, everything is truth so it is. enlightenment itself is truth, just as equally as anything else is truth in the fog of infinity. The only TRUTH there is to life is TOTAL ENLIGHTENMENT (absolute truth) as buddah so famously put it. You see i failed at my job as a jester just now so i got my head chopped off. so the ego done me in! does it mean i'm any less of a jester than when i started writing this message ahaha NOPE! does the jesters ego vanish, maybe. Does it matter in the long run or now... not really personally. LIFE OF THE FOOL! After i had an awakening, i stopped having the thirst to hunt enlightenment because i saw it for what it is. TOTAL enlightenment on the other hand, i have no interest in pursuing atleast for another 40-45 years. leaving me 45 years to become "PERMANENTLY ENLIGHTENED". how is it possible for this person to know how to play the part of a jester when he was expected to be a jester after being taken from the village of maxenlark, a poor village compared to the RICH capital by the king. Simple, HE was the jester all along, the king is the one who saw it in him and gave him a pathway to Riches beyond his dreams a house, a wife, money, knowledge, cars all he had to do was be a jester for him, otherwise if he choose not to, its automatically back to maxenlark. I have no interest going back to maxenlark whoareyou, i will gladly play the jester with no credentials or practice. better to agree with them, then to fight them over it LOL ,

If urges are stopping you from reaching your objectives and goals directly, then you should stop it. If they aren't then you can do them until you become an addict, however it does not stop your next days activity or ability to wake up/ go sleep [so texting before bed is not good ]. you have to wait a certain number of days before your brain chemistry changes and that's probably around a month minimum. In addition you have to spend that time doing either a substitute activity or as the guy above me suggests meditation.

Should animals be subject to human testing?

@Jkris This post is not about me, i am simply stating where i am in life. If i get to enlightenment when i'm 50-60 great. But utilising actualise.org to change the world yourself is itself impossible. ALL the meta -language you've gained from here in the process, will not translate in words outside this incubator. this is the main problem. Hence i am grateful for leo showing me the truth of the world. However, i can't do anything with it of tangible value, can only write an autobiography. NOW, the self-help section of the actualise.org. i can use that. to make me objectives come true and be loved by everyone! I told you we live in a material world whether you like it or not, its the paradigm. HEALING USING LOVE ? WOOWOOO This is my perspective from stage orange. Not anything above. side note: yes there are infinite number of things that can be done, but orange is simply the truth. We are now moving into green in the past 20 years so maybe you can rescue an elephant in africa from going extinct or do some volunteering work. This is realistic. Hence i said to mandy ... This is love, having your ego praised by others for being such a great "human being" by relative standards. I'm telling you, jkris its difficult to speak about these things publically, people will throw rocks and stones at you and call you a clown. Leo is safe to do it online, but you need to be turquoise itself to have a life purpose doing it. So its easier to set realistic targets. MONEY, objectives, not helping people. I mean lol who really cares about other people, than themselves and those close? virtually no-one. I can't even understand why i was so attracted to do it. Inspiring people? should stick to shallow self help industry, tony robbins style.

@Nahm Ahmen my substitute teacher. Not that i'm saying any of this is true, its all woowoo to me.

@Jkris YES, i have seen through the veil of illusion leo is selling me, money, objectives, goals and targets is the society we live in, if you don't reach acceptable targets you will not be loved. Meditation to get rid of self- doubts and thoughts about a seperate self to merge with god! sounds like hocus pocus to me.

show me what proof you did to calculate this. show me the proof for this THE ATOM WILL REMAIN SUPREME FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS. SCIENCE IS GOING NOWHERE AND NEITHER IS THE ORANGE PARADIGM. if leo is right about spirituality then science will keep splitting particles into thousands of pieces which we will automatically gain the beliefs and it will become true for the majority of the population. RESULTS, RESULTS , RESULTS i don't see any proof of claim in what you've said. The double split experiment was a one off. They will find it one day. okay i think i've got the gist of stage orange down, now how to trick myself into believing it's true

NOO mandy, don't listen to these spiritual people, THEY are all new age. Forget about the trees and nature river walks where you live. Return to the BIG city, where there are tall buildings, taco bells, five guys. Its not about how big your heart is! its about how big your house is! THIS is unconditional love. You will recieve LOTS of love from people talking about how big your house is and what they would do if they had the space and lifestyle. THEY will shower you in love which you will absorb into your emotional neurological system! allowing you to reach higher goals. AUTHENTIC love, comes from being socially accepted by everyone around you as the coolest person to ever walk the earth. HOW do you think tony Robbins lives, he's a millionnaire teaching people how to live their life? he's authentic because he's socially accepted. That's what we need mandy .. to be more socially accepted. Also i'm just playing the part of my correct paradigm - orange. If it resonates with you, great i'm doing well. if not, then what i intuite is your so worried about your love for your kids being inauthentic, because you've heard that there's something more authentic, don't be. these lot may be right but You can't rush your way to enlightenment, its a process that goes at your own pace. You shouldn't create a correlation with expectations of what enlightenment will provide you and compare it to what you have now. Your love for your kids is already authentic and perfect as is. JUST keep doing what your doing and doing the practices aswell. Stress increases cortisol levels and this is bad for your hearts you will die one day, lets try to prolong it as long as possible. Edit: like look at me for example, i was conceptually close, but now i'm really at stage red emotionally, because finding out how reality works, was a need i needed for my survival, so i boosted my cognition to get up there! now I'm 6 levels off enlightenment LOL but i've learnt to take it slowly. Hence i am focused on results now. Similarly if you just focus on the practices! the sooner you will understand what their direct experience is telling them unconditional love is. your needs at stage green to be unconditional loving actually makes the path more difficult! because it becomes entwined in your needs line of development system. Therefore you arrive at the statement "i'm not a loving person" because your in stage green! this is about emotional connection to everything around you and energy. Its not about unconditional love. The love in green is beautiful and tree-hugging. So be a tree-hugger mandy while i be a capitalistic tree-harvestor for the tables in my warehouse.

No ego is good, ego helps us get our goals, strive to get them at any costs. Who does it matter if people get hurt ? ME? certainly not. Let the people burn while i sit on a beach sipping a margarita. Those of you who give up your ego are not materialistic enough! PSSST what are you going to tell your girlfriend when her dad asks you, what you've been doing all week? MEDITATING!! NO! you'll be saying i went shopping and bought some clothes at macy's, did you know the shopping centre has a new place which sells donuts!! TO WHICH he will respond "ohh that's great" You think he's going to tolerate you talking about how life works ? especially when he's older than you? NAY LOL... BEST STICK WITH EGO and the need for our capitalistic behaviour to buy us clothes.

@mandyjw Can i tell you a story, right now after giving up my dream of helping the world, i have been left with a bitter feeling... As i react emotionally now, i realised it doesn't matter about your intentions. Society only cares about results. So heed my warning: the best way to be authentic is to show authenticity by forcing inauthenticity - GO help a cat from a tree, Go sponsor a child in sudan, Do not jump in a burning building to save someone This is the best way to show your loving... it is to pretend you are a loving person Then when everyone congratulates you for being a loving person, you accept the momentary happiness for all your effort made and RUN with it. This is the dual version of authentic love The non-dual version is to meditate The irony is: both are correct! join me mandy lets save cats from trees, meditation is for those who don't agree with society

@tsuki You are right ofcourse, what was i thinking anyways lol, i can't argue- i don't have experience I am a stage red hermit currently! LOL... surviving off food and sex

@Leo Gura you haven't done an episode on paradox to understand what your meta, meta, meta, meta,meta language to infinity, yes i watched it many time. but it repeats itself regardless of the state because infinite perspectives will get trapped in itself, leaving only one Absolute True statement.. it will play a record that breaks it. i understand the paradox has guided you on your route... and overall very likely that it displays the game coordinates. But what i cant understand is if everything is infinite, how is your omniscience awakening only possible with a few infinities claiming its because you "understand how reality works". So really you are meo-ing the unravelling of the paradox's one by one into your being. is this a fairly accurate statement to agree with? and this will cause D.DAY on you as "leo" go fish. Realistically you only need the infinity terms to lay down the foundations for your objective language to actualise, actualise.org... past there you can't do anything with it. So you must be integrating the paradox's is my view on the matter.

YES, but what about what i wrote is false? (don't forget to answer the questiion) you are making the assumption that my aim is to become enlightened or reach total enlightenment when it is not ? I'm trying to understand why leo believes that paradox's are the way forward and what value they hold in their overall game of KABOOOM your easy to shake it off because your in such a paradigm, its contradicting your points of view. But there is a truth: paradox is the only way your going to move closer to god. So what this means is your trying to deconceptualise your knowledge and then become what ever state your in and say ohh i'm done and reject all other opinions that oppose your state. LOL... such is ego facet. I'm just interested in godel and alfred to be honest, i find it fascinated how someone could achieve this and then it be actualised in infinity You need the mind, to integrate the insights :') mind is not seperate to god, MIND IS GOD

Your quarrels are too small to have any impact when functioning as a forum. However, if this was to turn into a society... you would surely be able to voice your opinion. But what is the definition of a society 50,000 people ... 100,000 people ... .? 15,000 ? i always personally say that changes should always be made earlier than later. But to be honest there is still another 20-30 years before actualise.org picks up. Right now we are all just cruising in cruise control mode, chilling.

omg! I just figured it out, paradox is created when multiple RELATIVE ideologies on the same axioms and rules of encapsulating reality intersect. However, to these ideologies, it does not fit in line with their mapped out version and so sweep it under the rug to continue proving their point. An example with this is socially committing theft is bad, however to the individual the theft is considered justified and good. Which one is correct? the mind needs to understand this because it thinks linearly, its not able to function by balancing out two frames of references, without creating a neurological pattern wiring and the linking of knowledge and belief systems. so which is it? the correct answer is .... its a paradox Both are TRUE and Both are False , one is true and one is false, etc.. etc.. From viewing reality as a product of being able to encapuslate it, this would be an error and the ideology will claim that theirs is completely right! so neither wins out the war, aka the mind does not settle This is the perspective of looking from relativity In the infinite spectrum however, the paradox has shown an inconsistency between what we think we know and what we already know. so the idea is not to use paradox and choose one side as either correct or incorrect. NO you create a third dimension! ABSOLUTE TRUTH It is a choice of both being true and both being false. You yourself calculate which is more the truer statement, but you can't without a frame of reference. AND that frame of reference is GOD or infinity. Your teachings will not be consistent unless you use the concept of GOD OR you have actualised god for yourself in one way or another. Hence the reason it is extremely dangerous to be taught by someone who is not yet enlightened or further spiritually. (NOTE: i am conceptually enlightened AHAHA, so you can listen to me mUhahaha) These paradox's then become your friends! for mapping in infinity when your continuing up the spiral chain consciously. But it is only used in your objective language to teach the problem of infinity and that is the fact that the closest you can get to putting it into a symbol, including words is the infinity sign. SO the question is! DID leo's foundational understanding of paradoxical truths contribute to his omniscience awakenings while taking 5-meo. Enough for him to create a story out of it with language. There is a complete difference between what he experienced and what he's telling us. He's just trying to put it into the best of words. Simply put its impossible. But did limited paradox help? If it did then it would be simple, keep looking into paradox's and actualising it in 5-meo time. How many limits to paradox's would there be? well the reason for a paradox existing would be to create a system in this case. Have you ever watched those anime's where they are trapped in a Real life virtual world game and a character tries to break through the coding and rewrite it to become omniscience. Well in that case, the person lost an eye. Therefore in creating a system, we have to rely on paradox's that can't be solved by the character. To keep the scope of infinity to its finite form. Expressions of infinity are limited to infinity, Paradox's of infinity are probably limited to any current given time period. As a result, the best possible menu ever any one can make at any time, is assume there are infinity, but actualise through -5-meo the current paradox's that you have seen. ONE by ONE by ONE by ONE. create a story for the public members, and so they enter facets ONE by ONE by ONE by ONE, and so infinity is expanding at the rate of infinity. When the paradox is solved, then KAAAAABOOOM solipsism. Total enlightenment. Its dimensional at the fragmented levels with paradox's and when you get higher towards solipsism it breaks down. Anyways these two are concepts itself to be balanced and therefore, we go full circle and end up at neither OR both and it is therefore another paradox itself. AT higher dimensions the paradox becomes more polarised to one. THE confirmation can only come from doing a practice of drugs. meditation, self-inquiry are spectific to enlightenment and accessing consciousness feilds. 5-MEO is accessing dimensional feilds of consciousness. These are the points of "UP" i was reffering to above. Meaning its insights coming from an intelligence linked to the paradox and spreading down into the paradoxical layer. to be honest "up" is constantly changing... because the buddah reached "up" at his given time, BUT ITs the NOTION of pulling insights from a higher place that leads to UP. PULLING it from infinite intelligence. There are reference points for UP and therefore, its a ticker timer tape for those of you who did physics. Who knows if there might be something better in the future for consciousness work. its a possibility. HOWEVER, it has to be found in the physical realm this time, in my opinion, the up for meditation and self -inquiry etc has run out, its outdated. It will not get you further. So its like saying buddah's job is done LOL. time for people to burn 5-meo on the daily now.

@Leo Gura i see so the unhealthy parts of coral, is abusing infinity unconsciously I.E infinite love, since the stage itself is only relative perspective and infinite love is infinite love. It doesn't appear like that to other people when i'm talking to them, meaning you'd have to already have your lines of development really sorted before you transitioned and learned when to use it at the right time. Its a dangerous stage to be in cognitively only, especially when you become identified with it- instead of using it loosely. This is basically falling back into the ego facet of reality, which is really bad because i know about the inescapable need to have reality fixed to your knowledge. Fine, i will apologise and say its not the kind of forum your trying to promote.

what i mean to say is: paradox's are the real axioms for life, so its definitely true for your objective language for actualise.org to be verified as completely true. However, my mind can't SEE the paradox's. I'm not aware of them happening around me and how to spot them. Also i don't have a meta-definition of a paradox. Its currently something along the lines of: A paradox means yes is no and no is yes.. now evolved to yes=no.

i'll tell you directly, what ever meta-language your at, you will know if its true or not The foundations of any ideology trying to encapsulate reality is itself untenable or unproveable. However, you can not write in your objective language, that this is untennable. You need to have a self- referencing statement capable of producing the statement- This is unprovable. Therefore the implications are as followed: No written language can encapsulate reality. Only direct experience can. The problem occurs when you ask yourself, where does the self-referencing statement start. To many humans it starts with self-referencing the brain, this is the pitfall that any ideology will fall into and thats why leo is able to see through the veil. Their epistemic and metaphysical foundations aren't provable under any circumstances. Knowing this leo is trying to take the pros and cons of all fields and create actualise.org and this is actually the best strange loop that can be made in infinity, BECAUSE it utilises GOD as the highest teaching. So actualised.org is indeed the most honest and trust worthy spiritual school, one can use ever in history to find out about truth. however, it has a limit and that limit is, symbols. It can not portray the truth and therefore you have to find out about it yourself. The question then becomes, what are you intuiting by claiming you are reaching higher consciousnesses, These states do and do not exist as there is only one consciousness. So the only question worth asking is not what is consciousness? its what is the system designed meant to be for. AND you can only work this out by being god itself. The question then point to, what is trying to be intuited by infinite intelligence to happen. This is the only domain of ABSOLUTE truth there is in reality, the rest is a just fog. The sets of all possible sets. Which may or may not exist. That is the paradox. The problem is you can only be it by being. The intuition is basically therefore only one thing. What is the purpose of life: To become totally enlightened. even if i try to use my ego to fight against absolute truth, it is absolute truth. So i've already accepted what it means. DEATH. but i can intuite my life is not meant to be spent, trying to continue the process of TOTAL enlightenment. The self-referencing system has already begun and it is that what it is says on the box. This is why actualised.org is the highest teaching from any school of tradition. Nobody can persuade me otherwise. I am enlightened as aakash not to the highest degree for sure. it is not for me to say whether absolute truth is something i should follow or not, i simply won't spend my life trying to become totally enlightened. I am one of those people who will continue to live life in the fog of infinity. So all i wanted to know was are you aware of this? are any of you moderators aware of this? if not i guess its just life lol The process can only go as fast as there is intuited material in reality, and that's the funny thing.