Aakash

@Leo Gura i need to know so I can stop barking up the wrong tree and instigating conscious warfare making myself look silly. On behalf of all enlightened people on this forum. Is non dual consciousness or the current version of enlightenment that individuals experience only a state of ego, which they are unaware of ?

@Nahm nahm it was a metaphor lol, just ask him! What do you have to lose! Ask of a seperate thread “is my non dual consciousness an ego, I am not aware of?” What do you have to lose ?

@Jack River ahh dude, I don’t have answers to your questions. I’m not an expert ,hopefully it will make sense someday

@Nahm LOL as my ex used to say “within reason” and that means stage orange paradigm ?. Umm your god lol do you not trust god ?? ?? I have total confidence in my answer, to the point I’d jump off a cliff if I could prove it without dying. So I will do this dare lol!

Yes this is exactly what ego would say. I am not that which I am. This is an assumption, you’ve made with your being experience Yes and that includes your one. The assumption is that it’s totally non dual. Against the true self, of which your enlightenment is only a mere part that feels total The goose chase is only seeable when you aren’t in a paradigm.

@Jack River because you are in.a non dual state of consciousness. I am in a dual state of consciousness, in other words I have not experienced a total enlightenment for me to peg my awareness against. I’ve pretty much given up since non duality isn’t the highest and i have no intentions to go on a goose chase. And nope I haven’t even experienced enlightenment. I’m just saying that you guys haven’t either.

I’m not sure I can answer on their behalf, I am not enlightened. Hopefully someone will reply to you. Watch the video on sadhguru talking about hitler and watch his reply carefully.

@Jack River I’m at home in eternity lol

Never mind, it is what it is at the end of the day. Thanks for the civilised discussion everyone ?

5-meo will not solve mental illness at any fundamental level until you could stabilise in omniscient consciousness and by then it would be totally pointless. Mental illness is apart of the diversity of god. You could reduce its symptoms using unorthodox healing and maybe even cure some entirely. However the majority of them, will just have to be accepted as part of being human. Ofcourse you have the option to enter a non dual state and basically glide over all the issues. It take major rehabilitation to rid yourself of any mental illness. In addition, everyone has a mental illness of some sort. The current definition under the materialistic paradigm is too inefficient because it defined healthiness against society standards. However, the truth is the standards are all relative and as a result only particular symptoms or behaviours are categorised and isolated as problems. As an example, To an enlightened being, it’s totally fine to be a murderer, it would be deemed normal and within reason.

I finally understood in my meditation today why you guys don’t understand. It’s because you never took responsibility for being god. It’s literally this. You do not try to figure out gods mind instead you concern yourself with trying to love each other and live without suffering. Boy I’m gonna suffer my whole life and I’m okay with it. I’ve been trying to figure out gods mind for 6 years out of interest. It is no wonder, I am where I am. ??, it is perfect. It’s not because I am a seperate self that I suffer, this is from your contextual understanding of reality. It is because I’ve imagined for myself that I am going to suffer a painful life. I accept it in its entirety.

@zeroISinfinity @Inliytened1 You misunderstand how important it is. It is the best diagram in the world. It is a seperate diagram I am talking about though, I’m talking about the enlightenment at each level of the diagram. Not the conventional diagram. The diagram proves people can misinterpret enlightenment at different stages of their spiral development.

@Nahm let’s put this in another way, let’s say that tier 3 is coral, you from a tier 2 structure are misunderstanding EXACTLY like a tier 2 person is not understood by a tier 1 person. LOL IF YOUR SO CONFIDENT. I’m going to get childish here. I DARE you to go ask the teacher (Leo) Who’s right. Infact I dare all of you. And if I’m wrong, you can dare me to do something ?.

@Inliytened1 that is a deflection mechanism for your paradigm LOL! Herein lies the paradox of brushing the unknown under the carpet to reinforce your paradigm. #paradigm wars lol

@Nahm lol again your talking about human ego, you haven’t grabbed the gravitas of what I’m implying. We are talking about universal transcended ego here. POST non duality. I do not speak from your paradigm. Nor any paradigm you know of , this is a CORAL paradigm.

@Inliytened1 alright I’ll stop, bro I’m tots satisfied, I’m just being me really lol. At this point in life, I’ve just given up with ever agreeing with people. It’s nice while it lasts but it’s limited pleasure for myself. It’s positive projection ?? And the start of conscious war fare. All paradigms must die eventually and I’m preparing for starting wars against other paradigms. ♟

@Jack River ???? yes because you haven’t taken full responsibility for being god. You are only aware of the human ego from which you state you have freed yourself. Universal ego is what entraps human ego. It is the very definition by which human ego is defined against.

@zeroISinfinity LOL collective transcended ego marching merrily together to reinforce their own reality. textbook dictatorship.

@Jack River pssssst don’t act like that changed your mind lol! I know how hardcore ego is.

@zeroISinfinity ? reality exsist Through assumptions. It’s the only reason you can function in a non dual state.

Yes and you are yourself a CHOOSER of the non dual state. You are an ego ? you just don’t realise it! Which is nothing but SELF DECEPTION AT ITS FINEST. Perfection! You assume in my dual state that I am not non dual. The seperate me who talks is god. This is what you don’t understand. This exact conversation is as follows: god is convincing god that god is god but is not the real god and that the real god is deceiving this god that he is god. My personal connotations: you guys are unaware of how deceiving the mind is because you are not aware of metaphysics. We are talking about universal mind here not human mind.

@zeroISinfinity NO it is not. And this is the assumption that you are making ?.

@Jack River even yoda did not understand what he truly meant by “use the force”.

@Pouya I’ve had a kundalini experience once and I hallucinated a flower. It is natural dmt released from your pineal gland, as a result of intense focus on a particular chakra, in this case kundalini. Which then distorts your boundaries between real and non real or makes you aware of a truer self, as your reality has crumbled. Stablising this energy is basically another tool to again, getting to a non dual state of consciousness

@Jack River YES to bad you aren’t aware of your true self! To give accurate grounds to your statement lol.