Aakash

@Truth Addict i don't see anyone using thought lol, thoughts are happening to you so as long as you identify with your thoughts ... you are right, it won't be an illusion to you. " It's how they brainwash you, my friend." yup LOL that's how they brainwash you aahaahaha still its the absolute truth

@Mu_ Yeah i get you You may be right, as you would be still your understanding is not transferable in the realm of infinite consciousness things must supercede themselves by nature of infinite consciousness and this includes the idea of enlightenment being the endpoint of life itself. There has not been a Holistic integration of everything and nothing. (as their concepts) used to guide the direction of humanity and this is what i find special about spiral dynamics. It solves that very issue. I told you, we know spiral dynamics is outside of enlightenment, because its contained within. But not the "conceptual understanding" of enlightenment and therefore, it will be superceded by the inefficable itself. because the inefficable is all possibilties itself. The nature of the inefficable is only one part of living life. The other part is to actually live a dualistic life as the inefficable and that's when everyone has their "i" as it. This is when hell and heaven merge and it will be paradise. But it's more complicated than that. Because like i said infinite consciousness is infinite. We aren't alone in our universe. There are still squirrels etc.. you get my point. what about them lol i'm talking about 100,000 years into the future

@Truth Addict lol don't get the wrong idea ... it's still an illusion. None of this is happening and at the same time it is as real as it not happening.

Ohh sorry yeah i didn't read this part yeah lol thats what absolute infinity is lol the inefficable LOL that is god The place with no inside or outside, it is exsistence itself or "nirvana" as the only spiritual term i enjoy using for describing the absolute thats where all enlightenment leads up to. And how do i know this, because in my omniscients, i imagined it and so i became it, because you know lol imagination/ reality breaks down LOOL, so yeah i've experienced it for literally a hyper second/ nanosecond from the nanosecond i imagined it. the only way to describe it was an infinitesimal unit of time lol. thats how long it lasted but i did this from duality , not non-duality. in other words, i fused non -duality into duality not the other way around, where people infuse duality into non-duality. it doesn't sound like there's much of a difference, but its slight. as in it leads you to the same place, just the method is different lol conceptual enlightenment and a befitting title lol.... the prince of hell (duality) because you know lol the inefficable is the king of hell lolololol

@Mu_ What you really want is to go to stage teal, where you are able to express the truth through direct communication without the use of words and symbols. That's what your trying to do here basically lol. still what your trying to do will work, but trying to bring people into silence is a difficult game to play lol. your words have to point to the exact being you currently are, whilst removing the mental cognition of the viewer trying to grasp your understanding with their mind. its like i said i'm opening out options for people I'm saying you will have an impact on the world, on an unimaginable scale if you trek all the way up there side note: i think its inaccurate to call myself the king of hell , i'll reword it to the prince of hell

@Mu_ doesn't being the number person to conceptually understand god. Mean i know more than anyone else in history especially about where the direction of where humanity is going Yes if i embodied it, i would die. There is no getting past it, if you reach nirvana you will die and become god

@RendHeaven Lol YEAH at that point i had said to myself , i might aswell take a vow of silence like the rest of those self-realised people, But then i just thought fuck it. Play the role of the king of hell .. why not LOL Luck would have it, that my life has changed 360, after that post. So it made me reconsider what i felt was right i was going to give up on conscious warefare and let the E-beings be. But yeah shit happens bro. I was just trying to be kind and let people get deluded with their own fantasies. Then i realised, i would be no better

@Mikael89 god is no where (absence of the present moment- enlightenment/ stage turquoise) AND every where (the present moment- de enlightenment/ stage coral) when this duality collapses god is non-locatable and ceases to be a locatable (nirvana) but as far as word cliches go, when trying to direct you towards it with speach. someone would be tempted to say YOU ARE GOD, therefore where else can you go outside of yourself, to locate yourself and GOD is this present moment (now)

@Mikael89 Who is aware of god? There is only god, who is there outside of god to be aware of god

@Mikael89 GOD HIMSELF BRO, GOD HIMSELF When you become conscious of god, you will understand it's happening inside of its own self, perfectly

@Mikael89 lol bro your still trying to get out of a material paradigm. what you aren't seeing here is- this is not masturbation of the human mind this is masturbation of GOD'S INFINITE MIND

@zeroISinfinity Yes bro, i have carried this suffering around with me for 12 years. Wary of people's inabilities to see how beautiful the world is. I'm telling you as the king of hell AS GOD (me) to GOD (you) that suffering one last time, to reach nirvana will solve all problems. I see your suffering and wish to give you a gateway out I do not lie, i can only tell truth. you are me, i only wish to see you suffer one last time to complete your journey to unimaginable bliss. have faith in me (god), not aakash to show you there

@cetus56 its interesting to think about, i admit. Considering the directory is infinite, i have an interesting suggestion for you inject some femininity into the system

@zeroISinfinity It looks like we have reached the conclusion of our war. If such a world satisfies you then that is great I am only here to allow you to make such decisions by taking into consideration all options. as long as you have realised there are outcomes possible outside your domain of understanding then i have completed my mission. I could promise you fruit and luxurious sweets that would fall onto your lap, by going further. However, it is not my decision to make, it's ultimately your free will. have a lovely day

@Mu_ the spiral is only the map not the territory Saying i'm more right than you is only a personal taste. However, it's a useful tool to show the differences in understanding. Think about this from my position- what words in the english dictionary can i use to say this statement? again its a personal taste, to assume that a higher stage person is a noble saint is entirely correct, however... to go outside of the system itself and preach is the antithesis of such person. I am merely a pointer to such a stage, not the embodiment of it. What i highlighted in bold, is a duality. whatever happens to you- also happens to me with slight variations in degrees. it is non-dual after all. Enlightenment is a process and therefore i can say with high accuracy that your personal experiences and interactions online are who you are. They are a projection of your meta-physical understanding. just a different form, to me only truth exists. How it operates is the underpinning foundation on which they speak. The issue has become this, how does a noble saint tell you that there exist a more worthwhile world than the one you already live in. Especially when he takes a vow of silence in absolute perfection? Does he tell you in a nice way holding your hands ? Does he confront you about the nature of your own problem? Who is more trustworthy and loving? the saint or the unsaintly?

your base line increases when your worldview about "god" changes This is in the form of insights or profound mystical experiences which can be derived from psychedelics or other spiritual practices

may i ask two questions a) what does perfection mean to you ? b) is a vow of silence, helpful to others?

@zeroISinfinity what do you mean?

@Mu_ Lol, It is actually a major difference in the awareness of god Lol it is love itself, love changes throughout the spiral. Yup that's how life goes, to play the part. except we're talking about the same god here. Not a "jesus or god" that is seperate from yours. So a more accurate representation is a christian telling a christain what it means to be christ.

Infinite consciousness is so infinite we can't even imagine how infinite it is to infinity and beyond as buzzlight year would say

nah, we are saying different things and i am not trying to expand on what you think is the absolute case. I've already experienced what you consider to be the absolute. this is still exactly something a stage turquoise person would say. Life is asymmetrical as leo states, to not accept this means you don't understand the nature of consciousness itself This is exactly what i'm saying. I'm saying to you, what you say to other people about the totality of your enlightenment as other people in stage turquoise do. the simplicity of our argument is that both of us are wrong and therefore i am right, because i am the one who understands myself to be wrong. regardless if you use the argument that there is no such thing as enlightenment in the first place. you are deceiving yourself into that reality... lol

@Mu_ lol dude if i understood it all, we wouldn't be having this conversation in this manner. but yes, the spiral dynamics is a collective conscious that is real and not just a concept. The truth of the matter is that we are close-ISH to one another, however, i am just more aware of what ones needs to do to reach total enlightenment Because we would be agreeance. the difference is clear as day because our "paradigms" exist on different teachers, which are themselves epistemically irreducible. I will say it again lol! I am not enlightened!

@zeroISinfinity @Nahm @Leo Gura are your guys. I personally have no idea how to shift a person who meditated onto the path of stage coral. This is exactly the part which buddha never taught, the path to nirvana. This is one question i'm clueless about and i'm interesting to see what they say

@Shin lol shin, your trying to complete stage coral yourself This automatically makes you a trail-able candidate to view the insights pour down. would you like to inquire about the nature of drinking hydrochloric acid, so we can gain a valuable lesson about dying.

@Hello from Russia lol stage blue/ orange/green enlightened people are people who undergo mystical experience and filter it through their paradigm so if an orange person had a mystical experience they will say its due to the brain and is a hallucination, without any notions of god present if a blue person had a mystical experience, they would say god spoke to me through some weird method, if a green person had a mystical experience, they would , try to get other people to have the mystical experience, just for the sake of trying it really. again nothing to do with god, just about friendship and chilling if it sticks, they will just remain like this , until they were to become unenlightened again via a paradigm shift but i've never thought about this question, it's certainly interesting to think about what it would be like if it stuck. Still this is like a non-sensical question to me, it would be the biggest waste of time ever.