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@ROOBIO Through contemplation, however, once you've maxed out the process. Then you have to pull insights from within a higher source and this is the benefits of psychadelics. They take you directly there and its very unknown all the time how deep it will take you. So the mapping process is difficult.

@ActualizedDavid Example? i am not wary of any christian cults, anglo-english (british royal family - my queen lol) is a cult imo, they are the ones that started the crusades and tried to kill all other religious people. Including the native american tribes I.e the mayan. Nowadays, there is no need for christian cults to kill mysticism, instead those who like to worship satan (christian version of devils) or any worshipper of the dark arts (harry potter funny quotes) basically rely on materialism to cover up mysticism. Therefore adding to the genjitsu (japanese word for illusion from naruto anime) of the philosophers nichtze statement (God is dead, we have killed him). As a result, stops mysticism in its tracks. There is no need for them to kill preachers. The average person nowadays (a materialist) will not listen to them. They will see them as deluded. Hence cern are trying to create energy using the hydron collider experiment. If they were to find a base particle, then it would make materialism absolute. However, as a mystic we know its impossible. hypothetically, if they were successful and found an indivisible particle, religion would die amongst the citizens. Except for a selected few, who would then pray for more material wealth and power in the world its impossible to stop religion, because faith in god is such a powerful force. So we have to use devilry to cover it up. edit: note that some of what i said was subjective, some was objective like materialism being an obstacle to mysticism itself.

@Gili Trawangan Deep sleep is loss of identification with the body in my opinion. Which technically means your consciousness joins the collective consciousness of "sleepers" Therefore its a state of consciousness within the absolute. God is therefore imagining that he's dreaming. More distinctions and forms of consciousness, more expansion. Different dreams ... more distinction expansion. @Nahm Lol lost efforts , how about a momentary jump in now LOL. nevermind though, i don't want to move the thread topic.

@Nahm that is exactly how future sights works. Tomorrow is actually today more accurately tomorrow was actually yesterday giving you a new now today

@TheAvatarState yup LOOOL! highly accurate. Sitting there questioning ourselves what were doing so we decide to dunk our head, head first into the soup to try it if i remember, it didn't taste of anything LOL was quite bland then question whether we even have a face

@TheAvatarState Don't worry that goes for my perspective aswell, in the face of the god particle. it's no valid than a smaller table cloth than yours

@AlwaysBeNice Yeah lol The answer to every question is yes and no. It is the job of the conscious person to decide which is the most valuable and to whom. There is no getting around the problem permanent enlightened states, have no effect on the holistic nature of reality and therefore the traditional enlightened being ideology will get killed off in maybe 140,000 + years time. It is good today because we see so much suffering and are aware others are unconscious, but what happens when the whole thing flips full circle and traditional enlightenment is the lowest. hence i say, it is the lowest in non-dual transcendance which transcends itself an infinite number of times. All you can really do is create the best life for yourself and others while you are spending your time here on earth. The choice is up to you, how you do it. The traditional enlightenment doesn't scale just like leo said in his video

you misunderstood what i said, it's infact neccessary to do it however much you need until you find a conclusive answer, then its important to find a new point of view that may be higher. When you find a higher one, then start the process over again. its more healthier than leaving for your society to decide by default there's no stopping going full circle, a CIRCLE IS a strange loop! ahaha, once you think you got it, you will automatically start from the position that you don't actually know. You can never completely know, so its just best we cater against the worst odds , I.E THE MOST CONSCIOUS SOLUTION , there is always a trade off between distinctions of any kind the more times you go full circle, the more happier you will be because you will understand how to understand different points of view more and not react to them. yup, that's it. if you ever uncovered the survival strategy as illigamate, then you will die over again. Because you are eternal being and there is no such thing as true death and non-existence. There is only existence so there is no way to elimate suffering for everyone. Only minimise it

@TheAvatarState Yes thats why practioners always say its better to keep a child like mind. Your mind gets locked when you think you've got it, Therefore you've lost traction in the groundless ground! [hypothetically] - depends on your openness

Oh especially when you use like 7 siddhis aswell [ using energy and spirituality practices for the whole of humanity tribe and not your own personal tribe] and future sight is the one , your literally telling people what is going to happen. Like leo is going to become the unpopular saint, but he's already started a religion. "what his experiences are" meaning everything is 100% true, even all other enlightenment experience. We just need to put them in rankings. Community religion including all version of enlightenment/ non-enlightenment trying to break into stage ruby (leader of tribes, which is leadership) before stage sapphire (community religion).

@TheAvatarState Yes, i have yet to find out how to embed it into my consciousness though. if you have any luck let me know. Once the duality is dissolved you should forget about it, except when your answering people's question. it should feel like "nature"

@FoxFoxFox well said fox, expansion of consciousness is infinite, those who expand their consciousness faster than the average level of state of consciousness is seen as a cult leader. The balance is not to balance in the middle though, the balance is to pick between which intensity of the paradox (cult leader vs animistic) is important at the given point in time and know when to drop it. There is time for contraction and there is time for expansion. if you expand too fast, it will automatically cause a contraction. Right now, there is a bottle neck at the topic of enlightenment and god at this current level of understanding which needs to be solved. Revolutionist are always lynched and told they are a fool , so they HAVE to go individualistic.

This is a good starting point, its not entirely correct. You need to contemplate free will vs determinism. Even though you are completely right in a way. We still have free will, given we are a finite being in the infinite. We can not seperate ourselves and therefore that gives us the possibility to have our own free will. However, the way to transcend the question is to see it is both and then forget the question all together. Because there is no "differences" between the answers. They are the same. Therefore your will is god's will and god's will is your will. This is when the duality breaks down and therefore its means that its more truthful to say YOU ARE GOD, instead of being passively inside god.

@zeroISinfinity Don't confuse your own lack of needs for the design of god. The design will continue on, whether you are personally ready to give up your own desires. The misunderstandings/ confusions of enlightenment are also contained within the design of god. Mind grasping consciousness is all we have, mind grasping consciousness through direct experience is all that we can do. You would not have an understanding of enlightenment if you never had an intellectual foundations. Therefore this is how traps works. if you indulge deeply into your own awakenings, you will be no different to a religious person who seeks the divinity in a symbolic feature of god. You are making guru's of the past/ direct experience your god. instead of making the GOD PARTICLE your god. There is no perspectives, this is direct truth and direct insights. All avenues need to be explored. However, we should not limit new seekers, to limit their pathways because we ourselves fell into traps.

@zeroISinfinity We need/must map it out and split it into distinctions. Saying the truth is the same, is exactly what got us into this situation in the first place. Therefore, truth is either more true or less true. there is nothing of equal truth as this would be the "sameness" and therefore nothing to compare it against. its a process repeating through out history. its religion developing again. why is this happening? because the god-particle itself is undefinable or pure imagination itself, so we will have qualms about what is right and wrong on a quasi scale. we will use terms such a spiritual ego's and we will quote enlightened masters of the past. Which you can see is clearly what's been happening for the past month i am suggesting we go past religion debate and begin controlled experiments .... "non- materialistic god particle experiments" Which is you right down what ever you feel your direct experience is like in metaphors and we compare people's experiences. OLD school methods in other words the spiral is repeating itself now on a spiritual level So stage coral, is infact. Beige of understanding the world and your basic needs to understand the world, which is understand god. This is why i like spiral dynamics and consider it my god. God is an infinite fractal @zeroISinfinity ironically look what i'm trying to do, i'm trying to create structure (stage blue) within awakenings and paradigms (stage sapphire LUL [ its a joke, i just made up a colour and sapphire is my favourite colour] so @TheAvatarState i would go with the 2nd one personally

its impossible to become absolute infinity in non-duality, which is exactly what your talking about. Its just about giving the self its also possible to become omniscient (be absolute infinity) as an incomplete-complete complex of absolute infinity. both are incomplete-complete models What you are essentially saying is you've become the god particle. Which is as you've said... there is nothing to be disconnected from or connected to. Its exactly that what ever way you look at it. I am aware of this and that is exactly why i'm trying to see where you incorporate on the model, who knows i'm even open to myself being wrong and you actually being the most complete-incomplete-able model Which i'm telling you, itself is an impossible-contradiction complex. You are the finite being in the infinite being. You can not become anything except a incomplete-complete- finite-infinite-being Which if your reading correct, is INCOMPLETE-ABLE by design, because the god-particle is existence itself. Even becoming nothing or "that which can not be named" is within existence itself. This applies to any of us. Which means as humanity or" god humanity"... we need to map the best path for everyone. As a result makes omniscientcy more accurate statement of the god particle, than yours. However, your engrossment into the god particle is far deeper than anything i can word. There's no way to compare it against the depthness of omnisciency. Which i have not reached. So i'm doing my best to scale it accurately. in other words, regardless of how deep your enlightenment is, it is the cliche of a stage turquoise enlightened being.

Mangas are easy to publicise your view of reality. I have thought about writing a manga in the future, but i'm no good at drawing. All i know is there would be loads of blood LOL it would be along the lines of attack on titans

This is nothing to do with mysticism LOL , this is to do with quantum mechanics. There are various metaphysical implications that could be said about any given subject that does not apply to its own technical rules. I.E an apple is red and healthy in cooking, however its just a physical object for a physical body in mysticism However, in physical terms where the rules of relativity have been set by founders of such subjects on false assumptions. Whatever that eiginvalue is, is certainly the constant for what ever its measuring. As it would need to be, to make the whole subject viable and make sense.

@winterknight It seems like when you say "there's no way to describe it" it is exactly that Still within my highest state of consciousness, i could frame it using a description which means there's some validity to what your saying. What is basically happening is this Your statement is: There is no non-duality, there is no duality You've tackled it from both ends What me and ilytened 1 are stating is : There is non-duality , there is duality We've tackled it from both ends too But you say your point is ultimately correct and true for every person, which is different to our point because it is true for who ever reaches such a stage in the enlightenment path but is essentially true for everyone anyway. The difference is who is correct about who incorporates who into their enlightenment. Do we incorporate your enlightenment in truth, or does yours incorporate ours. So what is the truth that is true for everyone again ? disclaimer: at this point in time, it would seem like you are winning the debate, in my opinion. You've given clear and decisive answers.

To make things simple you either have two choices take back your own authority or give your authority away This is the paradox to be solved. One leads to total disconnection and the other leads to total immersion I have yet to figure out which one is true

@winterknight Interesting so what you are is basically full disconnection. Which is the exact opposite of what we are full immersion Edit: i posted this before i knew inlytened 1 posted his post about brown bear

@Inliytened1 @winterknight What i'm saying here is kinda twisted. Non-duality transcends itself an infinite number of time, because it can be none, one, two --- Over and over again So i'm saying what me and @ilytened1 are talking about is one transcendence of non-duality FoxFoxFox is similarly on the same pathway however, he seems to be talking about another transcended version of non-duality and wintersolider is talking about a different transcended version of non-duality The issue is they are all correct, we just need to establish in what order it is... By retracting the number of steps before reaching that step, against known scriptures. To see which is the highest transcendance

Interesting, the truth of the matter is experience will always remain, however, if you eventually got to a point where this is possible, you would just strip all language and contextualisation of the "present moment" as you've said. i agree, i have a feeling you are yourself.. talking about beyond non-duality and duality its just you haven't given any reference to anything in duality You've simply just by passed it, by saying it is not it. Which is what should be done eventually, you should also note: you by pass a holistic merger In my opinion. To which i would say that, you are what? the most accurate way to put it, non-existence-existence?

I wrote this four days Why life? - "Consciousness" is imagining distinctions Life is intertwined The distinctions are imagined for the benefits of life itself All distinctions possible are imagined Those that are most beneficial for the survival of the whole are kept Giving the illusion that life is increasing in consciousness Life is the interaction of these distinctions to congregate into super distinctions (evolution) Maximising the number of distinctions possible (new consciousness) Wholistic form distinctions are able to maintain survival of itself and other distinction forms(symbiotic) On multi-layer distinctions are fighting to maintain symbiotic (super evolving symbiotic- complex structure) Love is the integration of ALL distinctions, (unconditional love) Complexity is evolving to maintain all distinctions No distinction is permanent forever because it will monopolise and LIMIT distinctions Illusion of distinctions, give rise to more distinctions Free will is the decision to choose any distinction of preference to integrate Free will creates the distinction of desire Distinctions then become available for practical by distinctions, giving rise to more distinctions The purpose of life is to maximise distinctions by creating and integrating all other distinctions Infinite possibilities Distinctions that collapse weren't beneficial to the survival of all distinctions as a whole Distinction imagination is not a creation process but a direct process Distinctions are any number of distinctions together Distinctions of distinctions change the property of that distinction I.e multiple distinctive uses Distinctions integrations is infinite intelligence Different forms are better for sustaining different distinctions All distinctions exist, distinctions are not physical but pure emptiness All distinctions are being imagined by you, including your physical body and brain Any distinction of one is still a distinction No distinction is none (still silence) which is equal to many distinctions of none (active silent)- Emptiness All distinctions can either be real or illusion, it doesn’t matter. This is a distinction over a distinction Does anyone think i need to go deeper into the question? for me, this pretty much answers everything

I tend to sometimes uncontrollably have a meditative sleep before actually falling asleep In this particular meditative sleep, i entered a black hole 4-5 times, each time with greater intensity. it has been my first experience of dying if i'm being honest, its made me question why i'm even doing any of this I'm not trying to escape suffering, I can't even say its acceptable to die just to find the truth anymore after i woke up (it was a 3 hour mini-nap [30 minutes ago]) I can't even comprehend what i have been trying to do for the last six years and why I've been stabilising in void for the past 6 hours, however, your experience still remains with void so its not actually that scary But with this black hole, i was sucked into the absence of a present moment. I was gone aswell as the present moment being gone and i was the only thing there. Whilst i was in it, it was fine after i woke up after coming out of the black hole, and then woke up from the meditative sleep. I can't see me going forward with death, its made me reconsider. However, i'm not trying to make a hasty decision, from a six year history of which is now complete stupidity. Does anyone have any guidance, perhaps?