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@Inliytened1 shit yeah that’s what I meant lol, but I wasn’t sure if you’d agree to it. So I never said it. Wait re-read my edit and give me your opinion!

@Inliytened1 don’t get it twisted you could kill a human being if you were enlightened at stage purple. Which is exactly what would have happen if you piss off a tribe in the amazon jungle. If you managed to figure out a way to actually cultivate so much love, that it was love that let them kill. Then that’s quite cool, even for an enlightened being this is quite rare. You would have to be totally self-less. Anyways my point is, the highest thing an enlightened being can do is not awaken to world or advance consciousness. The highest purpose of an enlightened being is to embody god as consciousness. Gain all god-like qualities. This is the meaning of being a saint that Jesus mention. That Buddhist decide to leave out. It is not needed in certain traditions because they decide not to take their responsibility for being god. Although I’m not sure about this at the same time. Its neither a true or false statement because there is nothing to embody. So I’m unaware of how the dynamics work myself. But it goes exactly as follow does your human take responsibility for being god. That’s it, that’s how it can have an omniscient awakening with enough work as a conscious god. Still I’m not sure about the logistics of this. But you would have to be persuaded by someone else who initially said “take responsibility for yourself being god” and the person would say yes or no. You know the normal way. But your still detached it’s unsure because by these standards I would be enlightened. But the paradox is I am already enlightened. And therefore your skipping steps itself by having an enlightenment at stage coral. Basically if this statement was true. Enlightenment itself would be a lie. And all that exists would be consciousness. Going full circle, it justs backwards. LOOOOL which would make me within the 5 top most enlightened beings in the world ???. If this was true because you would eventually loop around here. There’s no way this can be the case, the reason it’s a possibility is because I’ve experienced enlightenment. Wow my mind has entered the biggest strange loop ever. I’m merging realities together. Basically it’s dumb if enlightenment was itself a lie, then I would be right back here now. Without a grounded sense of reality. Shit, I would be omniscient! I would be fucking omniscient LOOOOOL! This is exactly it! This is it! This is what I meant!

@zeroISinfinity you can create what ever reality you want. If your enlightened it doesn’t matter what your human does. There is no right and wrong for even enlightened being. They don’t need to advance consciousness. If they want to, they can.

@Serotoninluv ahaha should we send your human into a mystical experience. Have you ever experienced eternity ? Not enlightened eternity, like actual eternity. It’s the trippiest trip you’ll ever experience

@mandyjw do you want to hear a funny irony. your body is always functioning at optimal rate. Well trying to. And is. It’s you who’s the stupid one making it unbalanced ? , it’s trying to help you under all circumstances. And your just saying fuck you dawg

@Serotoninluv yes this is nice. I never have and never will like the idea of a now. Maybe because I spent a lot of time in the future ?

@Key Elements Well ideally you’d want to do something with that knowledge. That will require you to reupgrade your metaknowledge and shape it into a new form. I.e the use of forming the notion of a god head or god arrow. I don’t think it’s about articulating. A teacher can only teach you what he knows. If it happens to be flexible knowledge that can improve your articulation, then that’s great. However, just like in leo’s Video of authority. The only real purpose of a teacher is to give you a sense of grounding (bringing this into mysticism now) as sense of truth. The more grounded the truth in relation to reality and how it actually works within any field. Gives you that further articulation. As I’ve said in my enlightened trinity diagram. Any teaching from riding the ox backwards and god head are simply just terms for understanding consciousness. The only real question to ask is who’s term has more understanding depthwise VS width wise VS dimensionally VS cross - laterally VS cross - vertically to infinity as it would happen to be. As consciousness is infinite. Everything is actually infinite, infinite bread, infinite ice cream , infinite cupboard. Even if a cupboard does not exist now , it may exist in the past and so as paradoxically as that soundscape its infinite cupboard. there is no single enlightened being who can tell you one absolute truth. The distinguishing factor is only this: nuance, the degree of understanding is nuance. BOUND together by layers and layers of “1 term” laterally and vertically. I will have a look at this shinzen young guy. What statement are disproving/ proving and I will return with my objective opinion

@abrakamowse LOL mind reading used for a good purpose ? is such a thing possible haha

@abrakamowse lol if this turns out to the true, there are SO MANY benefits that could come from this, it’s insane. If you could mind read, you could archetype everyone better. However, the limitation still lies with metaphysics not being located in physical reality. The only way language can be fixed is tailoring it to god. Everything needs to be tailored to god with mysticism, to put it in its correct place. That’s when you’ll see a golden age arrive in history. Just like the “enlightenment” in science in the late 1800s yeah eventually after enough trial and errors there will be a range of signals for each letter. And then you’d be able to put it into a correct sentence and use probability to work out the likely word for that sentence. Then the paragraph and then eventually the topic they’re referring too. But this would be like after 20 -50 years of trying this on countless humans . This will be done with AI because it can calculate probability to quantum computing like algorthms predicting what users want to buy.

@abrakamowse yeah it’s the same as psychotherapy relatively but with technology and a brain. If I had to reckon a guess, I’ve thought about this before. All neuronal actions is a result of synaptic action. When we humans scale models to nanograms we have to use intervals to create distinct marks. However realistically the physical body is so complex that it actually accounts for an Infinitesimal to infinity degrees of responses. Therefore it’s possible that physical symbols hold are marked in the neuronal memory. That would mean every letter of the alphabet has its own “neurotransmitter release pattern quantity” therefore with enough accurate technology and enough repition. It is possible to produce a string of letters with corresponding reactions. However they will find that it’s different patterns release quantity in everybody as with everything science. This mystical insight, if it were correct would explain everything about the body. The reason why this is true and I can say with about 50:50 validity. Is because this is exactly how addiction works 50:50 is me being modest to be humble.

I haven’t read it, but just be wary that it is only true within the paradigm of material science. Metalanguage doesn’t exist in the brain. Metalanguage doesn’t even exist in language itself - which is “symbolsic” its a symbol of a symbol, with no actual meaning.

@Serotoninluv I edited my post. Yeah that’s fine. Yeah but I already experienced enlightenment so I understood it from its title alone. I didn’t need to watch it, because you said it- I’ll watch it now. But yeah your “false ego” is still in effect is what I was trying to get at. There are truths that it sounds like you believe. Enlightenment doesn’t excuse from being falliable.

@Serotoninluv you can not escape relativity my friend. What were the foundations of what you said based on for saying the things you said ? Edit: basically what Nahm said ill say this because I doubt many people going to read the thread and your Coral and I particularly love coral people. I’ll tell you the real absolute truth. THE REAL ONE. I don’t like saying it because I like Leo. But I like how you decided to be coral aswell and genuinely like truth. so I’ll sacrifice my like of actualised.org to tell YOU seratoninluv the absolute truth. The absolute truth is “all TRUTH is relative”

@Key Elements this is the reason why I said students must overtake their teachers. It creates an unhealthy relationship when they turn beliefs into belief structures which need new beliefs to ingrain deeper structures of truth via authority. When you have a belief based structure and not a genuine insight based structure that you -yourself created, it requires you to become reliant on other people to form insights. The process becomes reactive instead of proactive. This is how education is taught today. Even if you told a person to critically think, the truth is even the people who claim they’re critical thinkers aren’t. A critical thinker builds their own foundations which their truth relies on. Critical thinking is not only about judging the validity of someone’s else’s conclusions. When your teaching, it should progress like this. Belief structure mapping, direct experience through testing, bridging truths, copy conclusion of teacher. Validate statements of truth and begin to reverse engineer conclusion to untested truths. Verifying untruthed bridges via different methods, conclude the whole structure is based on insights and not beliefs now. Create your own beliefs, validate insights or bring in new beliefs from the teacher again and validate it. Do this as many times as you need until your core structure is formed, find new teachers to teach you new things. Overtake all teachers teachings/ leave teacher and develop your own new structures. If students aren’t taught how to do this, you can forget about having a top student. Note: this is not a response to the direct conversation you are having with Leo. Just giving my insights about what is written specifically in about student- teacher relationship, not the doctors things

@FoxFoxFox ahaha ?? illusion is as real as real and an real is as illusory as illusory

I just realised this, like I’m just sitting here and now my consciousness has disappeared lol. Like how could I ever think there was such a thing called consciousness. To be honest, there’s no such thing as anything ?. The process is quite funny attach it all to one word and then drop that.

Enlightenment is the highest truth however, for a seeker it may be confusing when your getting information from different enlightened beings with different consciousness levels. What i would suggest is you use my trinity revised plan to decide what type of enlightened being they are: enlightened nothing - these beings tell you everything is an illusion enlightened (something = nothing) - these beings tell you that both non-duality and duality is the truth , they maybe stage coral and use metaphysics or stage turquoise and try to get you out of your illusion using non-dual teachings enlightened(non-dual/ dual) beings - these beings are the most advanced in knowledge about absolute infinity or consciousness, they are the highest beings on the spiral dynamic charts These are the orders in which they actually happening, depending on one's prior knowledge and direct experience of reaching enlightenment, they go from one to another depending on their preference As non-enlightened beings, you will be in one of these categories aswell but unconsciously. Just be wary that you will be parroting any one of these three types of beings, because these are all there is. There is actually a fourth but it's very rare. A non-conscious enlightened being- This are the beings that bring knowledge from inside the infinite fractal backwards towards our levels of consciousness, without having gone into the fractal itself to pull the information Its very rare so i wouldn't apply this one to anyone besides jesus and sadhguru , buddha - they just differ because the age as their consciousness would have been relative to that time period So when your having a debate on insight with some one else on the forum, they are basically coming from one of these three "paradigms" of views on what an enlightened being should look like. Your personifying your own image of what the perfect enlightened being should look like Although what i'm saying here IS A LIE, in the absolute sense. It is the truth none the less. So it would be ideal that you take this model, that i've been working on for nearly 2 months now. Anyway, to continue , you will fight someone else base on your current paradigm + your ideal vision of enlightened state and not listen to others point of view and say they're wrong. Ofcourse someone has to be wrong relatively, but were all saying the EXACT same thing but in different ways and then arguing closed mindly about who is right. This model is the absolute truth because although there is no such as an enlightened being, at the end of the day they are just human and all that exist is consciousness. everyone is right what ever they say, you just don't split things down the middle, you have to consciously decide whether to take the position on board or not.

@Truth Addict Haha live your life however the you want! That is the only point

@Preetom @FoxFoxFox Hhahaaha I don’t like using the word enlightened beings because it’s misleading and it’s not a real thing so I just call it E-beings for more secretive talk. Now it’s no longer secretive I might aswell just say the darn thing

@ajasatya yes I am in agreeance with this, which is what I say about highly conscious beings. I once was told a story by absolute infinity “enlightenment is only a choice, it is not a necessity because you will choose yourself to relinquish it when you are bored of it, after many lifetimes, lifetimes of being mermaids , dragons, aliens, , spider man, batman, superman. You will live all these lifetimes and still be in your enlightened state after your human life ends and you are enlightened. However you will relinquish it by your own choice during the in-between period of death cycles and you will relive those lives all over again. In this way life is a zero-sum game, it’s just how you decide to use your “being” whilst your memories have been wiped. Highest truths hurt the most, so it’s like I keep saying to people. You are designing your own reality. If there is a soul for you, there will be a soul, if there is enlightenment for you, there will be enlightenment. If you see evil, there will be evil. Enlightenment may indeed be the highest truth within absolute infinity. But it’s still a relative notion within eternity of lifetimes. In this way, there are no shoulds, should nots, rights, wrongs, must, must not, etc .. etc.. Enlightenment isn’t a must, it’s if you want it, you will get it as long as you keep working on it. May take 3 years, 5 years , 10 years ,20 years , 30 years. Maybe I’ll follow your roll ? I quite like my models ya know

@ajasatya I'll do it if you answer this one question, if you answer this one question. you have a vision with your partner-friend, do you mind if that vision is not fulfilled? like a tiny bit upset if it didn't come to fruition?

@zeroISinfinity it will depend on your story, and how it plays out there will be people to bring peace and others to destroy that peace because all possibilities must play out there is no stopping it or having a "perfect peaceful" absolute infinity, by its own design it is not possible because god loves war, violence, rape, murder, nuclear bombing innocent, dropping bombs on oppositions, slitting someones throat with a knife, suicide , psychopaths, everything You are right, creation is not possible and is only possible in the eyes of an ego The best comment one could possibly say about the whole design is: god works in mysterious ways because the words we use to describe god and all its facets, doesn't give it justice because we can not understand the magnitude of relativity that occurs. Like if i said imagination is amazing from your ego perspective, you have an idea what is amazing to imagination. This is not even close by ANY measurement standards and scale as to how imaginative god is. so what i'm saying is creation doesn't do it justice. But god is duality, so creation is happening . Its a strange loop you can't avoid, I.e we are creating new technologies every month. that is god creating. then there is god imagining new possibilities into itself for it to love CONSTANTLY, absolute infinity is not COMPLETE and will never be. its an on-going process. so its creating, but from god's perspective, its an infinite fractal.

For the first time in my life, i can finally agree with an E-BEING and agree with what foxfoxfox is saying, its better you correct your own self before worrying about others. Time will see how it plays out Still while i'm not there yet Don't chirp your responsibility LOL, keeping inquiring into these questions, just do the spiritual practices aswell on the side the answer is iran have nuclear bomb engineering in their universities and teach it as a course, so if they didn't have a constant war there, they wouldn't have any control over what iran makes. USA buy their nuclear arms off iran or could potentially force them into a deal.

@ajasatya Yeah man, it actually is ahahaha words carry absolute truth however, don't carry the actual truth its so annoying

@Blanchflower any story is a single (1) possibility and it MUST play out There is NO REASON behind it, the way we analyse a situation as good vs bad, evil vs good is how we see what is just the 1 possibility and we judge it and feel pain for it, we try to attach meaning and reason as to "why" it happened, "how" it could have been avoided, "should" it have happened", "can" we prevent this from happening, "how" should we punish those people, "must" we do something to stop it We are trying to reason with something that can not be reasoned with, because the 1 possibility happening is itself a pointless of any valid value except that 1 possibility being itself. there are no "why, how ,must , should, could, must" when it comes to god only what IS. This is one relative answer Another relative answer is, in this way creation is relatively unfair and relatively fair depending on who's viewpoint you look at it from. If you look at it from god's perspective it's fair because ALL possibilties play out. and if you look at it from your perspective it is unfair, however the perspective it is unfair, is fair itself because god questioned himself into asking is that unfair. So all possibilities have been taken into account. God can say 1) it is fair 2) it is just 3) it is unfair 4) it is unjust 5) it should happen 6) it shouldn't happen all dualities can be applied to infinity and so on. because there is a person that viewed it as fair (me) and a person that viewed it as (unfair) all possibilities pertaining that situation have played out and infinitely more within other peoples point of view