Aakash

@tsuki there is nothing wrong with science. The problem with science is that it uses human perspective instead of mystical insights to understand reality. What’s happening is that we are each experiencing the same thing and saying “whAt is that and then telling people what it is “ but only the absolute truth of the situation will survive. All misconceptions no matter how many centuries they last will eventually die with new ones to take its place. Each new ideology becomes more wholesome of a distinction than the last because it incorporates the mistake. But humanity will never admit that their science is biased because they would have to admit there is no such thing as a human awareness lol Gravity is but a word, within a thought. But what gravity is “pointing” too is emptiness as formless in the shape of form. It makes sense that gravity is not imaginary because reality feels to all beings reality that it is happening right side up. Except in space.

@Jack River yes but what was perceived was actually there lol! It was just understood in the wrong way ahah and that makes understanding itself possible and infinite ahah Yes buddy starting at the begginning again ? the human will always understand it wrong, because the human perspective itself is not absolute lol. It is part of the absolute. Finite mind would have to go infinite.

@Jack River if it’s done from thought of a perceiver who is human then it exist as concept! If it’s done from being (god’s mind) then it exists as form (this is what I was getting confused with) dimensions would be pockets of emptiness with their own rules defining that pocket. I would have thought (concept) yes because the human created the distinction and that made his own self reference problem and the self reference problem of having human based conceptual knowledge . But from god’s mind. There is no self reference because you are already included inside of it in the correct way. ? in one swoop it has made talking about this stuff redundant for myself lol. I only have my human perspective ? so I’m way behind lol

@Jack River yes but I’m not talking about a direction no up, no down, no left , no right, no diagonal, no inside, no outside, no centre this is still somewhere, that location is nowhere lol give a being lack of direction and he would be not even be considered alive

Gravity becomes real from the humans point of view. The meta perspective is: No here is happening no where. Gravity, is making no here happen “some” “where”

@Jack River your welcome bruddha, ??

@Jack River form is formless because it’s empty. But emptiness is all form because it’s formless. Yes gravity is magnetic in both of our thoughts so we can say this statement is true. (From the human perspective)

@Jack River okay re wrote my answer 5 times. Let me know if there is anything wrong with it. I think there is, but I’m not sure which part I’m getting wrong. I think it’s does it have to be materially physical for it to exists and the answer is no, because form itself exists. Even the imagination of it makes it exists. But it’s delusion to say it exists because it’s material form and that material form is atoms and not nothingness, which is why we get this whole debate over everything being formless and not form. So nothing actually happened. It only appeared to have happened. “Beyond non-duality/duality conceptually” So to conclude, gravity is imaginary but it exists. it’s substance is formless, and that formlessness allows it to have form. In the shape of a thought. Which exists. Which is. Which is hallucinated/ imagined to be real. And can be proven not to be real, when you take the thought away. But it did not ever not exists. It existed only as a thought, which was nothing. ? ugg my brain needs an ambulance. This would be so much easier if my being was synced up. @Leo Gura I feel like I’m getting this twisted. But I’m not sure

As long as directions exist for you, All forms of physics exist. Without distinctions, what is up and what is down ? However, gravity works well in our practical life for understanding positions in space. So unfortunately yes gravity is imaginary literally like everything. However, in the world of form, it has no choice but to exists as form. What you are doing really is calling the difference between visual space. “A force of gravity” it’s not actually that gravity is there. It’s that the difference in space between forms needs to have something connecting it. Otherwise you could not create a chain link and detailed explanation of what your actually viewing. This is what I call beings becoming more complex by adding more distinctions to create greater sense of being finite forms. Its funny how we always “discover” new things in the world, because we say it was already there before we came. But was it actually ? Lol are they sure it wasn’t made as soon as we said it was there and made it so. Lol creating higher distinctions as I said. Why was the world considered flat and that our ancestors might fall off ? Because that was literally the concept they built for themselves. Everything you know is a concept. That’s what it actually means to say that form is formless and formless is form. ANy distinction is delusion. (Form) and the formless is infact a distinction too. So what does that leave us with ? Its being and they’re are indistinguishable. So yes gravity actually exists. But it exists as a concept in your head. Not out there in actuality . But in conceptual actuality it exists and so it is a partial truth like all else because there’s no difference between, real or not real. It’s actuality that doesn’t have an opposite because not actual is not a possibility, that’s non existence . This is the non-dual way of looking at duality. So gravity exists! If you can imagine it or believe , it exists for you.

Currently we are very responsive to reality and it’s lack of knowledge about why the nature of things exist. If they are not random, then what exactly is the nature of nature. Nature is reacting to nature, without you actually doing it. What your doing is actually just being aware of it’s story. Even once you get to the forefront of the story. What exactly are you doing ? Are you creating a new definitions of things for nature to be revealed in repitition at that stage as god or is it still nature reacting to its own nature in an infinite loop and all nature’s are already here. You evolve to handle the natures around you. But what is the end point of evolution ?

@zeroISinfinity Ive begun cutting off my head ? using knife, not chainsaw this month.

@Jkris what is your meaning ? If I’m being honest, all devilry even in plants is rooted out. Do you know what this shows me. It’s that evolution is evolving to create greater distinctions of self. The feeling of self. Still only valid in the world of form and forms of seperations. Otherwise it’s meaningless as all is unchanging for eternity. Is form formless or is formless form ?

@zeroISinfinity ? ordinary. Extro-ordinary As Natasha said. What does your being tell you to become ? Mines tells me everyday to become rich and then to create some cool ideas and maybe help out some people along the way.

@Jkris make up the meaning ? Life purpose ?

@zeroISinfinity interesting, how godly can you become ?

@Matt8800 I meant end point as in, it’s purpose now. It’s purpose now is it’s endpoint because it’s continuing for infinity

@zeroISinfinity ? Spiritual adventure has a good ring to it.

@Nahm ? we all different but the same

@zeroISinfinity @Nahm ? fine I get it. Playtime, all of it

@Nahm the appearance of rising in consciousness ?

@tsuki my whole idea comes from the fact that it’s not that your thoughts are created by god. But it’s that your thoughts are subject to nature. The more that is revealed about the nature, the more accepting you are of it. This is how we can look at a baby and say “yeah it’s okay that your stupid” So something is changing or working towards as awareness of itself is adapting to survive its own nature. So you live a good life by understanding natures. Where does it end if I knew all natures as a repetitive cycle ?

@Ibn Sina I mAy have a useful experiment draw two large squares exactly equal in size and draw lines through it as many times as you want in both squares. Then compare them and ask yourself what makes these two different ?

The big controlled bang ?, does anyone know if it’s gone bang yet ? It said it was meant to happen 5 est time today.

@Mu_ Alright, I’m not sure either

@Mu_ very true need to stick to what’s important and currently it’s saying: what is actuality and why can I grasp it. Actuality is the practice itself of practising a negation technique until it’s what is. How to escape a prison ? Dig an infinite tunnel. What is practice ? “I don’t know” maybe ? What do you think lol