Aakash

@lmfao Muhammad never lied, he was telling the truth about god. He was just telling you the level he reached in his own words. That’s all, that’s all anyone can do.. because you truly do not know what you do not know. To awaken people you must communicate it to them if your stage coral, or if you can do it via siddhis then you can do it at stage teal. His consciousness of absolute truth obviously was not complete. Sometimes gurus will hang around before they decide to become enlightened like sadhguru to get people to the stage where they can reach absolute truth. Maybe he did the same, who knows ... in this case it’s not the teachings that were incorrect, the teachings got diluted as they went box to box through millions of awarenesses interpreting those exact texts like we are now and added their own delusions to it. I can garuntee you that all the texts are useless now. They’ve been revised way too many times. However, they do contain many gems. The reasons gurus need to stick around is to guide people in that era correctly. Although it’s not wrong to go it’s service to others. Even fully realised beings technically have dharma they can complete. The reason I say that he might not have reached absolute truth is because the teachings have got diluted and I can’t trust them to tell me full truth. But who knows if he did or did not. Only he would have known.

@zeroISinfinity @tsuki You guys are missing an obvious point that I keep reiterating. If mahasamadhi is the same as enlightenment. Then why do you still have your physical body ? Its a very simple comparison to make

@tsuki unfortunately the whole point of life is to die. You can dress it up in a pink skirt and spray paint it all you like. It won’t change the fact that all devilry must come to an end. That is because you are the devil. And all devils want is to be happy so they try in many different ways to obtain it, only to realise the impermanence of their tries, finally when they die. They realise that is what they were searching for all the time. Union with their true self. That’s why absolute infinity exists and for no other purpose. Enjoy yourself, play, as zero is trying to do, play the role of the person who thinks they are enlightened playing the roll of the image of an ordinary person who knows truth. It’s fine do all this. Why does absolute infinity exist ? Why creation ? Why life ? It is because god loves you and he wanted you to experience duality and when that time is over and you’ve had enough. To return back by realising you never were. Consciousness increases because your consciousness must increase which makes other people’s box of consciousness increase. Because all everyone in life is trying to do is find happiness. We are all seeking the same aim and so we’re bringing heaven down to earth slowly for people to enjoy more loving life with better systems. But this is all form, this is a byproduct of people searching for higher ways to be happy in more union. So more form is created, not limited to physical but non-physics forms of siddhis etc. Devilry is impertinent so it’s is obvious all of conscious will have the appearance of increasing because it wants you to increase your consciousness so you can let go of it and die when you feel the time is ready. This is what is happening EVERYWHERE across absolute infinity. To all aliens, all species of animals, unconditional love for YOU. YOUR OWN APPEARANCE OF YOR OWN REALITY IMAGINED BY YOUR TRUE SELF.

@zeroISinfinity your “spirit inside of body” will not go anywhere. It will die. Because it NEVER WAS. This is the part your not understanding about THIS THIS ONLY EXISTS BECAUSE YOU STILL EXISTS. No bliss, no love, no joy, no happiness , no peace , no -thing -ness, emptiness, allah, bhraman , void, just words to talk about it. “Al fana al fana” the passing away of passing away “nirvana” “mahasamadhi/ moksha- freedom from bondage” “absolute truth” “Groundless” To become truth you must die to become it. You can not attain nirvana / moksha/ emptiness. To attain it is to not attain it. To be it is to not be it. THERE IS NO YOU, YOU DONT EXIST , DEVIL only YOU exists and that is your true self after you die.

You come back because you are tasked with the fact of performing a mahasamadhi, the reason you come back is not to enjoy your life. It’s because you haven’t completed the process. We are not talking about duality here, you transcended that to non-duality. We are talking about transcending non-duality. We are talking about transcending enlightenment!

@tsuki @zeroISinfinity You guys are not getting the implications of what leaving your body actually means. The sad thing is that you are considering it as a material object. Using the very same perspective that you are trying to avoid. Mahasamadhi is explained in a material paradigm. What does it look like from the spiritual paradigm ? You are questioning my egoic mind as if I do not understand what these spiritual masters who perform a mahasamadhi enlightened view is like.

@zeroISinfinity do you not have the awareness to realise you are localised to your body ? Your body is your box not your physical body. You are localised to your box. Why are you not in my box ? Answer me this

@zeroISinfinity yes, the intent of the being to end reincarnation is the intent of MYSELF all along playing. Anyways I’ve lost the taste to talk about these things without experience. I get why I can trust gurus now with their stages of enlightenment. Need to cover the basic ones for now

Yes you are making them, nothing more than a game that appears to be happening for someone, you...

Lool they would be scared indeed

Yes I too have given this thought and I see the problem that what I’ve said here is enlightenment from an angle Liberation from thoughts and them flying out of your body without reaction to the environment, emotional mastery and both of these because you are in the present moment. I get it, it’s mahasamadhi if you look at it in this way. No actual value to thoughts in time, no human life that is better or worse, no dualities because there’s no thoughts of value to the present moment and nothing to understand or to gain or lose. No thoughts of value = liberation I will reconsider my answer by looking into Hindu traditions. But I think I see the problem, just because there is no seperate in your own box of reality, does not mean there is not an actual seperation in absolute infinity (between you and absolute infinity) The paradox still remains but not in your “box” anymore because you’ve removed thought value from your box. I.e this is the point where you realise you are also everything and the opening to love. It’s the point where you need to acquire self knowledge about yourself and absolute truth. which makes the fundamental problem still remain. All of this is happening inside your own box with you unaware of the need to escape the box. You are not aware how you created the box, for you to escape it to be all of the boxes. Not for you to be all the boxes. But for all the boxes to be their own boxes, without your box there. Your box doesn’t exist in the first place because only from here do you never realise that there was never a separation between all the boxes and itself completely. That your box never actually happened. That your life didn’t actually happen literally. But there is no “realisation” of this because there’s no one to have the realisation. There is no you - freedom You come full circle, because what are you looking for whilst enlightened ? Your asking yourself ... not who am I ? But what am I ?

@SQAAD you have the option to choose out of a set of thoughts given to you over let’s say 5 seconds. The being behind those thoughts. If you want to find that then you have to stay in a place where no thoughts arise. The position I think Leo given the best knowledge from disindentifyig with thoughts in his how to meditate video. To cut through the bullshit. All thoughts are for survival purposes, they are to tell you that you need to be doing something else instead of literally sitting there without any thoughts in that moment. To handle something in the future or to think about something in the past. All your literally trying to do is sit there without thinking a thought for hours. I haven’t gone deeper than this so I can’t give you any advice further from here about meditation

@SQAAD yes the universe thinks your thoughts, becAuse you are not aware of your own beliefs and paradigms . however you have the option in your current state of consciousness to choose your thoughts you wish to give value. At the point of enlightenment you will not have attached value to your thought, it will be detached. The reason why meditation is good is because you become aware of your thoughts and the contents, once you realise thoughts actually have no value. Then it’s like a little game with yourself. Meditate and let the thoughts run, pick the best thought and basically carry out that thought. Repeat and do over. Hopefully you will pick the thoughts with the most consciousness and this will lead you to a better life. “Feel - good” thought i.e if I stop watching tv maybe that is what a fulfilling life looks like ? Do people who are fulfilled watch tv ? Most probably not the entertainment type so to conclude, you pick your thoughts because you picked your beliefs and the words that are throw out are the summation of the “feelings of your entire human system” as a reaction to your environment. This part is done by the universe in the present moment. every thought you think is for survival, so you can bet that it has some fear in it at first. With more consciousness your words become more lose and less filled with emotions of fear and more with love and care

There is something you cherish in this life. Your thoughts are navigations to get there. Namely, it is a universal calling. Your thoughts are derived from your level of consciousness relative to the level of consciousness in your direct experience around you. This is how awareness interacts with itself to find out If your being a devil or the other person is being a devil. In my opinion no mind = no thought, how do you arrive at no mind no mind = physical death of body. As long as you have a physical body you will think. Ofcourse you don’t have to identify with the thoughts, this is liberation. Freedom is the freedom from thoughts in absolute being. Liberation is freedom from the contents of your thoughts and seeing it as having no value besides flying out of your mouth. “It wasn’t me”

@Inliytened1 I see your all trying to say you’ve dropped the body and your energies have raised higher. I get this and my rebuttle is no I’m pretty sure your body has to drop and your awareness has to change into purity.

@Truth Addict so who were you talking to? Me ?

The box ? that Jesus filled up, is directly equivalent to the box you filled up of your awareness. In your theoretical foundation, not your actuality. in actuality instead of you calling it your own awareness as you are the god of your box. You called it Jesus as form for the elevation in presence or awareness in your box. But your box is the same as Jesus’s box because the boxes are identical. Therefore you are God, in the form of you and Jesus. You did not feel Jesus. You felt yourself but called it Jesus.

@Inliytened1 @Truth Addict Ahh alright, I got my main points out seems there wasn’t too much disagreement.

@Truth Addict thanks that’s the whole point of laying my foundation. See if you know the foundation. All you have to do is sit in no mind for days and years on end. Nothing more. When the time comes you will know lol but if your foundations are wrong. Then you’ll get trapped in someone else’s box of awareness that is not complete by their foundations they laid down

@Inliytened1 ? what if god didn’t create the world to experience form. What if god created the world just to give you the idea that your alive out of unconditional love for you. You come and you go, what’s the biggie ? The irony would be that that very nirvana like experience is still the unconditional love it has for you. To experience what it’s like to be god. And if you want to end the journey all together and return to source truly you may Why should we lower the standards of truth because it’s okay to experience a nirvana like enlightenemnt ? It is not the absolute truth, it is more devilry ? How can it be otherwise ? ? I’ve been a vegetable in the brain ever since meeting Leo, he makes truth so complicated than other teachers.

@Truth Addict interesting there probably is, experientially wise. But what am I missing in theory? Let me guess your being is love itself. It’s not finite? “you the most purified guy out there, yeah?”

@Inliytened1 lol I don’t like confusion man. This whole fucking truth and enlightenment business has been a night mare. I just don’t understand why we all can’t agree with the same experience when we all have the same box of awareness. It literally does not make sense. And no ? I use the forum to cover my blind spots. Because if I get lost in my own awareness, it will lead to the same issue. You would have to ask others questions. See the end goal: leave the body ... now it all makes sense. It’s actually physically provable without a shred of doubt if you have reached nirvana to others. Loool and for yourself, well lol none of us will ever know until we reach nirvana and by then. You won’t even be aware of it. You’ll just be it. Not aware but as awareness itself

@Truth Addict it’s like I said with the winterknight comment, I’m not saying your wrong. It’s just too simplistic way of looking at reality in terms of truth. By this logic it’s okay to kill someone. What your not understanding is that supposedly love you have for everything supposedly is still only finite. Hence with that fight you still threw a punch before you realised he was just you and let him hit you.

@tsuki exactly, there is nothing happening, no one to awaken. Everyone is awoken already. There is no devilry. There is only the energetic appearance of life. Which is also illusory, No suffering. But you can only say this from a position. There is no enlightenment , there is only true self. That which you are. You have to truly die to reach it. What did that Christian priest do when he experienced mahasamadhi on that link that some guy started a thread on. He came back. Because his energy peaked but not enough to perminantly leave the body. he choose to come back instead of going into it further. Why is winterknight description different to mines, because he’s still got his body aswell. It’s not quite so simple as the way he put it to find absolute truth. But what he learnt was essentially correct, but death itself has multiple layers. Ps. Everyone is a bodhisattva on this forum lol

@tsuki lol dude your deluding yourself by back rationing your choices in life It’s selfishness and devilry not to kill yourself for the sake of your wife This optimising goodness is a back ration for you to argue a case for not doing mahasamadhi. It is actually more good for you to record your own mahasadhi and show your body lying there for a year. And put that on YouTube . Than it is for you to keep your wife. The Same goes for me with my family. That is the selfless thing to do. Devilry does not mean causing less pain or right vs wrong. Devilry means not accepting the fact you are god!