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sorry i misinterpretted the question but again I agree with @Arhattobe upon awakening, i stopped caring so much about it. i'll leave arhattobe to answer the rest!

@Preetom the many awakenings and stages need one word to categorise them. Nirvana should be used a whole before the person breaks an awakening but after it should be understood at a metaphysical level like leo explains to us. Keeping it conceptual is probably the best thing and just saying you don't know what it is, whether thats truth or not is by your own standings. This way it doesn't encapsulate/ limit what it actually is. Hence the reason i determined the definition of buddahood was to "reach the highest level attainable in ones life" the concept levels room for infinity as it should

@Genghis Khan it was a very interesting read; you should just pattern this thread and keep adding your material here, whenever you feel to write. I'm definately interested to say the least in metaphysical programming and what that is. But ill have to do some research and then i will give a comment. But this guy sounds pretty enlightened to me. In the olden days the smartest individuals on the block were the enlightened masters so its no suprise you view it this way, they have an aptitude for thinking in big patterns and education.

@Arhattobe i also agree here aswell; dangerous terratory to be playing with for an unenlightened person, your best off just leaving it out completely for the reasons arhattobe explained.

the duality itself creates more dualities that lead to the question, free will vs predetermination. For example, what ever happens, just happens... The person back rationalising with thoughts and apply the following terms 1) good vs bad 2) neccesary vs unneccsary 3) faith vs deterministic is attaching dualistic meaning to the identification which is them.. After realising the self in non dual terms, this is where your analogy fits

@Preetom i couldn't agree more, i swear after i self - deceived myself into stopping the development, I've had an uncountable number of unnecessary thoughts. its actually so beautifully-horrible how stupid spiritual ego is ... but what the hey, i'm the only one who's accountable in the end. Good luck on your journey.

@Shin should have seen my now when i read you play pokemon! and even have a journal! where was you when i needed to evolve my haunter :')

@Key Elements couldn't have done it without you!! your post made me realise i fanstised and concocted an image of enlightened people working together. Thats when i realised that it wasn't true non-duality! so thank you very much. I then had to write this post because the deepest insight i had was that when you go into the now so deeply, it will change the quality of direct experience. But i am sure now that i am causing the right ripples! create a foundations and hopefully send them to a strict and disciplined practitioner to learn the realtionship between silence and truth! my next step couple of nows is to be wary of any spiritual ego occuring and deal with it. but once again, thank you for the previous thread chat, it helped me alot.

as kanye west said in his song "can't tell me nothing" 'and you can live through anything, if magic made it'

@Gabriel Antonio i didn't actually realise how funny that line was until you reposted it LOOOOOOOOL!

" Belief as a tool[edit] The central defining tenet of chaos magic is arguably the "meta-belief" that "belief is a tool for achieving effects".[12] In chaos magic, complex symbol systems like Qabalah, the Enochian system, astrology or the I Ching are treated as maps or "symbolic and linguistic constructs" that can be manipulated to achieve certain ends but that have no absolute or objective truth value in themselves[8] – a position referred to by religious scholar Hugh Urban as a "rejection of all fixed models of reality",[4] and often summarised with the phrase "nothing is true everything is permitted".[13][12]" @VioletFlame @Fairy OOoooo thoughts

The correct word is pointers, they point to the same thing, what is it? only you can experience it in your direct reality

Please enlighten me; what did you discover in these books?

@Tistepiste ahaha would be the worst group of super heros ever :') im dead that was so funny

Good luck to you on all your journeys where ever they may take you!!

There is no other source, that breaks it down as leo. So if you are looking to find another source of this quality , there isn't really one at this current period of time. The other sources require you to think for yourself about the underlying hidden meaning. But leo just tells direct truths because hes on youtube which makes it easier. Whether you understand his meaning or not is totally up to you. but all the sources are pretty much saying the same thing, just in different ways.

Like i said ... our paths will all take us on different ventures. i couldn't agree more that there are pros and cons. In the end you can only play the part that is yourself, otherwise it wouldn't be lived as the being that is you as leo so eloquently put it.

I'll remember to take that thought on, when i'm meditating @Shin

Plus who doesn't want to develop psychic powers you can all form the avengers one day :')

@zambize it makes me really happy ! that someone is taking responsibility for my chirping of responsibility ahahah THANK you all so much! the next now is looking bright

@ajasatya i completely agree my friend, it couldn't have been said more perfectly before enlightenment: sharpen your mind after enlightenment : sharpen your mind

@ground @Jack River

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@Joseph Maynor @Shiva @ajasatya @NoSelfSelf @Sockrattes @Arhattobe @FredFred

@Key Elements @Leo Gura @cetus56 @Preetom @Anton Rogachevski @ivankiss @How to be wise @Yousef @purerogue @Shin @Arthur @Hellspeed ^ it stopped letting me @ after this point ill add others who i think it applies to after