Aakash

It seems theres confusion about what is and what is not if you embody every illusion you find what is not, that which i thought i am but is not "no mind" would be the last illusion to cover there is a mind thinking this is an illusion so i ask, if there was no such thing as a mind there would be no such thing as perception, no such thing as i, no such things as words there would only be what is NOTE: the mind and the brain are different concepts

@kieranperez so if your breaking it down- You like the truth is what your saying by listing all those names, thats a great start you know your weaknesses thats even better, it's up to you whether you choose to face them or not but the final thing is just to choose the only thing you resonate with , even slightly and incorporate the framework of truth within it? Just because everythings an illusion, it doesn't mean that you can't like things so too say, the suffering only comes when you get attached! and the identity is embedded into your awareness. Up until then your just learning and teaching your self to master something that will add value in the future to the wider world. Do you have anything you resonate with? art, music, teaching, science, computing , gaming, fashion, sports, magic, card games, biology, chemistry, history?

@kieranperez don't you have the answer to your question then? if you like this vision alot theres nothing stopping you from doing it aswell.

@ivankiss dude my opinion is that whatever truth you have, your cool with it for being creative, trying to justify your truth is long. Just be the creative person you want to be and express, so yeah

In other words, are you willing to give up your mind to have a direct experience of what you really are? when mind arises, ego arises by the sense of delusion because the very thing you look at becomes distroted into duality and you are not looking at it for the same thing that is yourself- which is you. This is what it means to learn who you are, the deeper you go , the more illusions you break the closer you get to a full enlightenment. Nobody said it was going to be easy, but at some point you have to decide to make a conscious effort until then you can get away with just learning and breaking through barriers unconsciously by tagging everything to the self of illusion (ego) but really i would call it mind.

@ivankiss ahahah lig full hippy to people :')

How do you focus when in the now 1) are you being with ever fibre 2) do you say to yourself , I am reading ,i am reading , i am reading for example 3) do you visualise yourself doing the task from a third person perspective are there any more ways of focusing?

@kieranperez There is a paradox at play here: going down the path of enlightenment you become detached to everything. The problem i think people think is that your going to have something left that your going to love wholeheartedly however i don't feel this is the case. What you have realised here is that there is no conditional love/ point of view from the ego perspective that you would stake your life on. i THINK what would happen next is you have to find something that you love unconditionally and work to love it unconditionally that it springs you into action and the now you wish to live in becomes actualised. What do you think?

since i have exhausted all my techniques i used to get here, i've find of realised that i have to start back at the bottom if i want to have life long practises - self inquiry, journalling , contemplation, kriya yoga are all tecniques used to question but i have never done a technique that has to do with simply being in nothingness do you have any lifelong techniques i can build and develop?

@pluto side joke: it make pluto the perfect username for you lol but yeah i get what your saying, i'm basically going through that patch now, but still forcing myself to interact. you stop seeing people as individuals and stop labelling them unlike others, it's kind of difficult to keep up with trying to generate thoughts based on such dualities. Thats the bit i find really difficult

@pluto what do you mean, what was so difficult about interacting and doing things?

There is some truth in what you speak, from my point of view. I am unsure about how others view this situation. but to answer your question i would say is your trying to rationalise what it would be like after your truth has been found and saying it is negative completely. Maybe you should inquire into some of the reasons people seek the truth and check with yourself if any of the reasons resonate with you before continuing the journey

There are multiple ways of thinking about this situation But the most heartfelt one is that there is something in each of these men that you dislike find the thing you dislike in each of them specifically and then know that it is you creating that perception of them if you want to be more loving and kind to them, then just learn to accept the way they talk, their actions and learn to stop back rationing the decision they make as good or bad, this will allow you to recontextualise your thoughts and ideas and just stay in the moment you might even find that you will start to have a laugh with them because you understand their views on a matter

this is a song i listened to in 2010 and its 2019 loooool!

This is more of an education for other people as ive come to understand the inherent flaw of the mind, but i have most definately been psychologically induced by my belief systems in adherance to cult-ish behaviour. To illustrate the subtle tendancy of the mind and my observation of it, i can confirm that through cultural programming in my youth and the way i grew up unconsciously that my mind tends to bend reality to suit a desire of mine to become socially active. As well as double confirm that i would have indeed started a cult and been a cult leader with ideologies of fighting and raising consciousness on a worldly scale. although i was conscious of the source of the problem and the subliminal messaging sent to my mind, i never comprehended the full scale of it at a higher tier level. So the prospects came from the music i listened to, it fuelled my hero's journey substantially because! the prinicpals on which the foundations would have been built on WOULD be spritially gratifying for the individuals, in no means was it for myself (i did think) but now its a bit evident that i self-decieved myself. I have got allot of work to do and am most certainly immature at this point. To explain further ill just say the example straight up to eliminate confusion. I wanted to build schools to develop a better education systems, however, unconsciously i would have portrayed ideals of cult-ish behaviour through emphasism of "the good life", although this would have been a few years in the future, none the less i would have self-decieved myself. luckily :') i've learnt to let go of ideas, so i just laughed this off to be honest, the only downfall is i'm back to base one with my life purpose ahahaha. Did anyone else realise they may have been part of a cult?

I've just contemplated more; it's not even like someone tried to recruit me! my own ego coopted it, itself. I overestimated my intelligence, my own narcassism created a truth bubble and decided what was best for other people. The music reinforced my own ideology of being the hero of my own story- i needed to justify my own reasons constantly so i kept listening to the music which i indoctored from my life before i started my spiritual/ during my spiritual journey. WOW! this is madness

@Key Elements yeah i'm slowly learning the difference between orange/green/yellow/turquoise education and developing techniques to systematically handle a change. However! i would have been unconsciously pushing my own deception onto others! that i got from taking a fixed perspective on one matter/ issue. The friendship is definately interesting! but what i learnt from this video was that the deceptions runs much further than i thought personally. It was the deception of an authortarian leader (who may have been imaginary at first glance/ but still an enemy out there to fight) i think alot of other people too are locked into this paradigm! but they just aren't aware of it. This would have been my turquoise beliefs being pushed on them in a green sort of manner, the whole relationship would have been unhealthy but i am still most likely going to start the schools, i just need to let go of any unconscius dogmatic beliefs i still hold and for me that was definately being social injustice fighter ahaha I think by saying no you ended up closer to "god" lool

@Fairy what do you mean they signal with eachother?

Leo's work for the last five years

:') ahaha

@Fairy i love how you said another magician :') tell me one thing, what realm does your linking come from? by this i mean are there alternative realms of conscious which one can access or are they all from the same realm?

@ivankiss yeah thats how i ended up lucid dreaming; the duality between sleep/ no sleep = dream state/ no dreamstate collapsed and then i embedded the fact theres no such thing as a dream in reality and so essentially you sleep lighter and all together i slept very bad that week, because i only slept 2-3 hours a day. I've stopped it for now because i need my sleep :')

@winterknight i have no doubt that it is , thank you for answering my question.

@winterknight is the total silence the all and all of enlightenment, by this i mean the discovery that the mind itself is not real and that by default leaves a peace to settle with in itself the stillness and silence of being. I would put it in terms of a void in its essence

@shin does this feel like it works when you wake up?